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(OP) User ID: 456207 Austria 07/15/2009 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” You are a true watchmen. Quoting: little star 687974I had gotten woken up by the book "Corporate Hitman" by John Perry years ago. Another outstanding post by you OP! Thanks little star, this coming from you means a lot for me. What I am really looking forward to is a list of assassinated people around the world if they will ever release it ... Last Edited by FreeFlow on 07/15/2009 11:27 AM I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
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superNerd User ID: 701101 Canada 07/15/2009 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” they say that the assassination squad was targeting "al qaeda", which, those of us with brains knows DOES NOT EXIST. So who the fuck were the killing? My guess is this squad killed anyone in power who stood in their way. I would also guess they "suicide" people. OH and I also bet that this squad operated in North America, not other countries. |
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(OP) User ID: 456207 Austria 07/15/2009 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” robin cook Quoting: Anonymous Coward 726057david kelly spring to mind. Yeah I thought of these too ... I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
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(OP) User ID: 456207 Austria 07/15/2009 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” they say that the assassination squad was targeting "al qaeda", which, those of us with brains knows DOES NOT EXIST. So who the fuck were the killing? Quoting: superNerd 701101My guess is this squad killed anyone in power who stood in their way. I would also guess they "suicide" people. OH and I also bet that this squad operated in North America, not other countries. Absolutely agreed except one point which is they didn't operate only in the US ... I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
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(OP) User ID: 456207 Austria 07/15/2009 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” OMFG! The CIA might have actually tampered with other people's govts and killed someone! If you have any doubts, check out "Rogue State" by William Blum -- over 300 pages of documentation, including dates and target names. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717584Would be interesting to see the target list ... Edit: Found it: [link to www.thirdworldtraveler.com] Now in what chapter is that target list, can you lead us there AC? Last Edited by FreeFlow on 07/15/2009 12:05 PM I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
little star User ID: 687974 United States 07/15/2009 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” OMFG! The CIA might have actually tampered with other people's govts and killed someone! If you have any doubts, check out "Rogue State" by William Blum -- over 300 pages of documentation, including dates and target names. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717584Isn't Bill Blum one of the guys that John Perry mentions in his book? I believe so! Rogue State book will scare the hell out of you. Makes you see just how small we are as individuals. |
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(OP) User ID: 456207 Austria 07/15/2009 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” Isn't Bill Blum one of the guys that John Perry mentions in his book? I believe so! Quoting: little star 687974Rogue State book will scare the hell out of you. Makes you see just how small we are as individuals. They bulldoze over their citizen since ages ... I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
little star User ID: 687974 United States 07/15/2009 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” Isn't Bill Blum one of the guys that John Perry mentions in his book? I believe so! Quoting: FreeFlowRogue State book will scare the hell out of you. Makes you see just how small we are as individuals. They bulldoze over their citizen since ages ... Most are asleep, and yet they say they are in the know! Who really controls USA? YOU KNOW OP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 726184 United Kingdom 07/15/2009 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” Isn't Bill Blum one of the guys that John Perry mentions in his book? I believe so! Quoting: little star 687974Rogue State book will scare the hell out of you. Makes you see just how small we are as individuals. They bulldoze over their citizen since ages ... Most are asleep, and yet they say they are in the know! Who really controls USA? YOU KNOW OP! AMIRICA. My guess. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 726184 United Kingdom 07/15/2009 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” Secret CIA Prisons in Your Backyard By Onnesha Roychoudhuri, Truthdig. Posted September 22, 2006. The largest covert CIA operation since the Cold War is run not only by shadowy government contractors in the darkest corners of Afghanistan, but also by unassuming Americans in places like Dedham, Mass. In Special Coverage Belief: Corporate Accountability and WorkPlace: We Offer Riches and Perks for Corrupt Cronies, and Crumbs for Everyone Else Chris Hedges DrugReporter: Censorship in California: Marijuana Ad Campaign Rejected by TV Stations Phillip S. 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Called extraordinary rendition, the practice involves CIA officials or contractors kidnapping people and sending them to secret prisons around the world where they are held and often tortured, either at the hands of the host-country's government or by CIA personnel themselves. On Sept. 6, after a long period of official no-comments, President Bush acknowledged the program's existence. But the extent of its operations has yet to be publicly disclosed. How extensive is it? Trevor Paglen, an expert in clandestine military installations, and A.C. Thompson, an award-winning journalist for S.F. Weekly, spent months tracking the CIA flights and the businesses behind them. What they found was a startlingly broad network of planes (including the Gulfstream jet belonging to Boston Red Sox co-owner Phillip Morse), shell companies, and secret prisons around the world. Perhaps the most disturbing revelation of their new book Torture Taxi: On the Trail of the CIA's Rendition Flights is the collusion of everyday Americans in this massive CIA program. From family lawyers who bolster the shell companies, to an entire town in Smithfield, N.C., that hosts CIA planes and pilots, Torture Taxi is the story of the broad reach of extraordinary rendition, and, as Hannah Arendt coined the phrase, the banality of evil. Trevor and A.C. joined me by phone to explain how they managed to follow a paper trail that led to some of the most critical unknowns about the extraordinary rendition program. Onnesha Roychoudhuri: How did the idea for the book come about? Trevor Paglen: I research military secrecy at Berkeley and there is a community there trying to figure out what military programs are. At some point, this hobbyist community became aware that there were these civilian planes flying around, acting as if they were working in military black programs. These people started tracking the planes and repeatedly seeing them in places like Libya and Guantanamo Bay. It became pretty clear that this was a CIA thing and that these were planes that were involved in the extraordinary rendition program. Roychoudhuri: When did the pieces start to come together? Paglen: Late last year, there was a big uproar about secret prisons in Eastern Europe. Dana Priest at the Washington Post broke the story and Human Rights Watch put out a press release. At that moment the pieces started making sense and we could start explaining what was going on. By that time I had collected a number of files on this just as a curiosity. I brought them over to A.C.'s job, where he has access to some tools to do investigative journalism. A.C. Thompson: Trevor had this aviation and military expertise and all this information when he came to my office. I've been doing corporate research for years and when we started looking at these possible CIA front companies associated with the planes, it immediately became very apparent that we were looking at phony companies. Roychoudhuri: How did you track the extraordinary rendition program? Thompson: We wanted to gather up as much information as we could to create this mosaic of evidence to show the broad picture of extraordinary rendition. We went from Smithfield, N.C., to Gardez, Afghanistan, to piece it together. This is something that people have only really had snapshots of thus far. We reverse-engineered the program. We used the paper trails and evidence left behind, from FAA flight logs to the testimony of former prisoners in Afghanistan to piece it all together. Paglen: We conceived of the book as a travel diary. We showed up at the addresses on this paper trail and followed the leads. The point was to find the story behind the address. Then we would go to the places where those companies actually fly those airplanes and provide the pilots. Then, when we saw that the airplanes frequently landed in Afghanistan, we went there, too. [link to www.paglen.com] 12345Next page » |
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(OP) User ID: 456207 Austria 07/15/2009 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” bhutto Quoting: noKnothing~Yes very likely! I wonder if they are responsible for Haider's assassination also ... Last Edited by FreeFlow on 07/15/2009 04:20 PM I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
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(OP) User ID: 456207 Austria 07/15/2009 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries” They mainly killed journalists, scientists, whistle blowers, and other enemies of the President of Vice, Cheney. I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
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