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Powell aide about CIA's secret assassination program: “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries”
Ex-Powell aide suggests CIA assassination program was actually active

By David Edwards

Published: July 15, 2009
Updated 19 minutes ago


The secret CIA program allegedly aimed at assassinating suspected terrorists abroad has raised the eyebrows of at least one former senior Bush Administration official who hints that the program may have actually gone into effect, despite the denials of the agency and congressional staff who have been briefed.

The aide, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, was chief of staff to Bush Secretary of State Colin Powell. He says he heard “echoes” of the program from US ambassadors abroad, who informed him that clandestine military teams were being dispatched to their countries.

“We, very early on, after 9/11, at the State Department, learned from our ambassadors in the field that there were teams being dispatched to their cities, to their countries, and these teams were clandestine and essentially aimed at capturing al Qaeda leaders or al Qaeda affiliates and interrogating them,” Wilkerson told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Tuesday. “So the fact that it might have gravitated over to the CIA or the CIA might have joined in, which is something that happens a lot these days with Delta Force and other special operators is no surprise to me.

“What I suspect has happened is what began to happen while I was still in the government, and that was we’re killing the wrong people,” Wilkerson added. “And we’re killing the wrong people in the wrong countries. And the countries are finding out about it, or at least there was a suspicion that the countries might find out about it, and so it was shut down. That’s my strong suspicion.”

CIA Director Leon Panetta announced this month that he’d shut down the program last month when he first learned about it.

The State Department, under Colin Powell, asked the Pentagon which countries were being targeted but found out little information from then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Wilkerson asserts.

“After some hemming and hawing, which was Rumsfeld’s forte, he finally admitted that he had dispatched some of these teams,” Wilkerson explained. “I don’t think we ever knew the full range of his deployments.” Wilkerson believes CIA became involved in the program of targeted assassinations later.

“It’s laughable [the idea] that the CIA has never lied to Congress,” Wilkerson quipped. “They lie to Congress on a routine basis,” said Wilkerson. Historically, it’s presidents that take the fall when the CIA lies to Congress. Wilkerson says it’s unprecedented for a vice president to fill that roll as Cheney appears to have done.

This video is from MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show, broadcast July 14, 2009.
[link to rawstory.com]

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You are a true watchmen.

I had gotten woken up by the book "Corporate Hitman" by John Perry years ago.

Another outstanding post by you OP!
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You are a true watchmen.

I had gotten woken up by the book "Corporate Hitman" by John Perry years ago.

Another outstanding post by you OP!
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Thanks little star, this coming from you means a lot for me.
What I am really looking forward to is a list of assassinated people around the world if they will ever release it ...

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OMFG! The CIA might have actually tampered with other people's govts and killed someone! If you have any doubts, check out "Rogue State" by William Blum -- over 300 pages of documentation, including dates and target names.
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Thanks little star, this coming from you means a lot for me.

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they say that the assassination squad was targeting "al qaeda", which, those of us with brains knows DOES NOT EXIST. So who the fuck were the killing?

My guess is this squad killed anyone in power who stood in their way. I would also guess they "suicide" people. OH and I also bet that this squad operated in North America, not other countries.
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robin cook

david kelly

spring to mind.
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robin cook

david kelly

spring to mind.
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Yeah I thought of these too ...
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they say that the assassination squad was targeting "al qaeda", which, those of us with brains knows DOES NOT EXIST. So who the fuck were the killing?

My guess is this squad killed anyone in power who stood in their way. I would also guess they "suicide" people. OH and I also bet that this squad operated in North America, not other countries.
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Absolutely agreed except one point which is they didn't operate only in the US ...
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OMFG! The CIA might have actually tampered with other people's govts and killed someone! If you have any doubts, check out "Rogue State" by William Blum -- over 300 pages of documentation, including dates and target names.
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Would be interesting to see the target list ...

Edit:
Found it:
[link to www.thirdworldtraveler.com]
Now in what chapter is that target list, can you lead us there AC?

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OMFG! The CIA might have actually tampered with other people's govts and killed someone! If you have any doubts, check out "Rogue State" by William Blum -- over 300 pages of documentation, including dates and target names.
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Isn't Bill Blum one of the guys that John Perry mentions in his book? I believe so!

Rogue State book will scare the hell out of you. Makes you see just how small we are as individuals.
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Isn't Bill Blum one of the guys that John Perry mentions in his book? I believe so!

Rogue State book will scare the hell out of you. Makes you see just how small we are as individuals.
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They bulldoze over their citizen since ages ...
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Isn't Bill Blum one of the guys that John Perry mentions in his book? I believe so!

Rogue State book will scare the hell out of you. Makes you see just how small we are as individuals.

They bulldoze over their citizen since ages ...
 Quoting: FreeFlow

Most are asleep, and yet they say they are in the know!

Who really controls USA?
YOU KNOW OP!
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Isn't Bill Blum one of the guys that John Perry mentions in his book? I believe so!

Rogue State book will scare the hell out of you. Makes you see just how small we are as individuals.

They bulldoze over their citizen since ages ...

Most are asleep, and yet they say they are in the know!

Who really controls USA?
YOU KNOW OP!
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AMIRICA. My guess.
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Yea Bhutto's husband an CIA agent.
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Yes very likely!

I wonder if they are responsible for Haider's assassination also ...

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They mainly killed journalists, scientists, whistle blowers, and other enemies of the President of Vice, Cheney.
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LTG Stanley A. McChrystal WHO NOW HEADS OPERATIONS IN AFGANISTAN WAS CHENEY'S LEADER OF THE SQUAD. OBAMA IS KEEPING HIM BUSY.





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