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Lotus Feet
User ID: 602386 United Kingdom 07/14/2009 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People sure do seem to hold grudges a long time. Why do you think this is ? Quoting: Spirit * Man !Pride maybe ? Constant seeking of "justice" (the clean word for revenge) What reasons ? * ---V--- Lack of forgiveness and mercy. The depth of forgiveness demonstrates the depth of love. Humanity are in deep water like a crab about to be cooked because they did not show mercy like he asked you too. Best you go that extra mile and become merciful before it is too late to change course. You have until the 22nd July then the heat goes on. [link to academysounds.blogspot.com] The heart is for giving. Lotus i love satan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 540408 United States 07/14/2009 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice and a grudge are two seperate things. Justice has broad moral implication while a grudge is highly personal and is a result of pain, humiliation, or lack of control over another person's actions. Grudges eat away at the holder becoming obsessions and corrosive in their relentlessness. Born of frustration and impotent anger a grudge must be feed, nurtured and it feeds on the host for want of resolution. Even if you manage to exact revenge that provides only temporary respite. Grudges are a poison that result in a kind of death. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725300 Austria 07/14/2009 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While grudging you are only hurting yourself, because the person you are grudging to has gone past the event and is not going to turn back to apologize. It may sound harsh but you have to move on. Justice does not exist on this world and as Karma shows the only judge that is existing is yourself judging your own life. You will never be able to lighten your soul if you keep the burden of the past. Let it go for your own sake. You do not have to smile to the person but you should stop keeping such thoughts. btw what is going to happen on the 22nd in this respect??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725139 Germany 07/14/2009 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People sure do seem to hold grudges a long time. Why do you think this is ? Quoting: Lotus FeetPride maybe ? Constant seeking of "justice" (the clean word for revenge) What reasons ? * ---V--- Lack of forgiveness and mercy. The depth of forgiveness demonstrates the depth of love. Humanity are in deep water like a crab about to be cooked because they did not show mercy like he asked you too. Best you go that extra mile and become merciful before it is too late to change course. You have until the 22nd July then the heat goes on. [link to academysounds.blogspot.com] The heart is for giving. Lotus Stop talking rubbish. Is Satan forgiven for his crimes? Can evil spirits be forgiven? There are some forms of life devoid of morals. They are incompatible with concepts such as forgiveness, seeing it as weakness. They will be destroyed not forgiven. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725139 Germany 07/14/2009 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice and a grudge are two seperate things. Justice has broad moral implication while a grudge is highly personal and is a result of pain, humiliation, or lack of control over another person's actions. Grudges eat away at the holder becoming obsessions and corrosive in their relentlessness. Born of frustration and impotent anger a grudge must be feed, nurtured and it feeds on the host for want of resolution. Even if you manage to exact revenge that provides only temporary respite. Grudges are a poison that result in a kind of death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 540408How could you possibly know this and still be "alive?" You cannot hope to taint the sanctity of moral righteous indignation with this nonsense. If a man hurts another man through sincere error, then there is leeway for forgiveness, empowered by that man's active penitence. If that same man continues to hurt, maliciously, devoid of remorse, or reason, or justification, he is not a man and therefore cannot be forgiven. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 540408 United States 07/14/2009 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice and a grudge are two seperate things. Justice has broad moral implication while a grudge is highly personal and is a result of pain, humiliation, or lack of control over another person's actions. Grudges eat away at the holder becoming obsessions and corrosive in their relentlessness. Born of frustration and impotent anger a grudge must be feed, nurtured and it feeds on the host for want of resolution. Even if you manage to exact revenge that provides only temporary respite. Grudges are a poison that result in a kind of death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725139How could you possibly know this and still be "alive?" You cannot hope to taint the sanctity of moral righteous indignation with this nonsense. If a man hurts another man through sincere error, then there is leeway for forgiveness, empowered by that man's active penitence. If that same man continues to hurt, maliciously, devoid of remorse, or reason, or justification, he is not a man and therefore cannot be forgiven. Obviously you don't see the distinction between justice and a grudge. The word justice is used in the context of a grudge as justification for revenge. A grudge can be a real or perceived slight and is highly subjective. If for example, a heinous crime has been committed then justice is certainly called for. However, a disagreement between family or friends over a crock pot can hardly be compared in gravity or long term consequences except when fostering said grudge results in harm to the holder of the grudge. For example, in my own family my sister and her daughter are embroiled in a grudge match. Both women feel complete justified creating havoc for the rest of the family as well based on their hurt feelings. We have to be careful for instance to keep them separate at functions or invite only one and risk further injury. The bottom line here in this case is that both women are torn up about this, but can't seem to stop this emotional train wreck. If you would ask them why/how their relationship has come to this neither could give a clear example of one distinct incidence that led to this. My sister has even become near suicidal about this division in her family. How is this beneficial? As for your wonder how I am even alive given my sentiments, just lucky I guess. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 480936 United States 07/14/2009 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I kinda remember Yahushua talking about if you don't forgive others their sins, your Father in Heaven wont forgive your sins! Remember to forgive others seven times seven-through the seven chacras and through the seven Heavens that God has created. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 725139 Germany 07/14/2009 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice and a grudge are two seperate things. Justice has broad moral implication while a grudge is highly personal and is a result of pain, humiliation, or lack of control over another person's actions. Grudges eat away at the holder becoming obsessions and corrosive in their relentlessness. Born of frustration and impotent anger a grudge must be feed, nurtured and it feeds on the host for want of resolution. Even if you manage to exact revenge that provides only temporary respite. Grudges are a poison that result in a kind of death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 540408How could you possibly know this and still be "alive?" You cannot hope to taint the sanctity of moral righteous indignation with this nonsense. If a man hurts another man through sincere error, then there is leeway for forgiveness, empowered by that man's active penitence. If that same man continues to hurt, maliciously, devoid of remorse, or reason, or justification, he is not a man and therefore cannot be forgiven. Obviously you don't see the distinction between justice and a grudge. The word justice is used in the context of a grudge as justification for revenge. A grudge can be a real or perceived slight and is highly subjective. If for example, a heinous crime has been committed then justice is certainly called for. However, a disagreement between family or friends over a crock pot can hardly be compared in gravity or long term consequences except when fostering said grudge results in harm to the holder of the grudge. For example, in my own family my sister and her daughter are embroiled in a grudge match. Both women feel complete justified creating havoc for the rest of the family as well based on their hurt feelings. We have to be careful for instance to keep them separate at functions or invite only one and risk further injury. The bottom line here in this case is that both women are torn up about this, but can't seem to stop this emotional train wreck. If you would ask them why/how their relationship has come to this neither could give a clear example of one distinct incidence that led to this. My sister has even become near suicidal about this division in her family. How is this beneficial? No communion hath light with darkness. The Messiah came to set the two in opposition, so that when the time comes neither will be confused with the other. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725139 Germany 07/14/2009 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I kinda remember Yahushua talking about if you don't forgive others their sins, your Father in Heaven wont forgive your sins! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480936Remember to forgive others seven times seven-through the seven chacras and through the seven Heavens that God has created. Once again. You cannot forgive something which cannot be forgiven. The Messiah spoke of forgiving one's brother seven times seven times. What happens on the fiftieth transgression? He spoke of bringing to the attention of another a dispute between a righteous man and his unrighteous brother. If the unrighteous one refuses to acknowledge fault or repent then the case should be taken to a greater authority. If the unrighteous continues in his abstinence then he is to be cut off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 540408 United States 07/14/2009 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice and a grudge are two seperate things. Justice has broad moral implication while a grudge is highly personal and is a result of pain, humiliation, or lack of control over another person's actions. Grudges eat away at the holder becoming obsessions and corrosive in their relentlessness. Born of frustration and impotent anger a grudge must be feed, nurtured and it feeds on the host for want of resolution. Even if you manage to exact revenge that provides only temporary respite. Grudges are a poison that result in a kind of death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725139How could you possibly know this and still be "alive?" You cannot hope to taint the sanctity of moral righteous indignation with this nonsense. If a man hurts another man through sincere error, then there is leeway for forgiveness, empowered by that man's active penitence. If that same man continues to hurt, maliciously, devoid of remorse, or reason, or justification, he is not a man and therefore cannot be forgiven. Obviously you don't see the distinction between justice and a grudge. The word justice is used in the context of a grudge as justification for revenge. A grudge can be a real or perceived slight and is highly subjective. If for example, a heinous crime has been committed then justice is certainly called for. However, a disagreement between family or friends over a crock pot can hardly be compared in gravity or long term consequences except when fostering said grudge results in harm to the holder of the grudge. For example, in my own family my sister and her daughter are embroiled in a grudge match. Both women feel complete justified creating havoc for the rest of the family as well based on their hurt feelings. We have to be careful for instance to keep them separate at functions or invite only one and risk further injury. The bottom line here in this case is that both women are torn up about this, but can't seem to stop this emotional train wreck. If you would ask them why/how their relationship has come to this neither could give a clear example of one distinct incidence that led to this. My sister has even become near suicidal about this division in her family. How is this beneficial? No communion hath light with darkness. The Messiah came to set the two in opposition, so that when the time comes neither will be confused with the other. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 374503 Turkey 07/14/2009 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice and a grudge are two seperate things. Justice has broad moral implication while a grudge is highly personal and is a result of pain, humiliation, or lack of control over another person's actions. Grudges eat away at the holder becoming obsessions and corrosive in their relentlessness. Born of frustration and impotent anger a grudge must be feed, nurtured and it feeds on the host for want of resolution. Even if you manage to exact revenge that provides only temporary respite. Grudges are a poison that result in a kind of death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 540408How could you possibly know this and still be "alive?" You cannot hope to taint the sanctity of moral righteous indignation with this nonsense. If a man hurts another man through sincere error, then there is leeway for forgiveness, empowered by that man's active penitence. If that same man continues to hurt, maliciously, devoid of remorse, or reason, or justification, he is not a man and therefore cannot be forgiven. Obviously you don't see the distinction between justice and a grudge. The word justice is used in the context of a grudge as justification for revenge. A grudge can be a real or perceived slight and is highly subjective. If for example, a heinous crime has been committed then justice is certainly called for. However, a disagreement between family or friends over a crock pot can hardly be compared in gravity or long term consequences except when fostering said grudge results in harm to the holder of the grudge. For example, in my own family my sister and her daughter are embroiled in a grudge match. Both women feel complete justified creating havoc for the rest of the family as well based on their hurt feelings. We have to be careful for instance to keep them separate at functions or invite only one and risk further injury. The bottom line here in this case is that both women are torn up about this, but can't seem to stop this emotional train wreck. If you would ask them why/how their relationship has come to this neither could give a clear example of one distinct incidence that led to this. My sister has even become near suicidal about this division in her family. How is this beneficial? No communion hath light with darkness. The Messiah came to set the two in opposition, so that when the time comes neither will be confused with the other. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord It is his, but on behalf of whom? |
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astrogal50 User ID: 588885 United States 07/14/2009 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best way to get revenge is NOT to seek it in the first place. Living well is the best revenge, and you WILL live better when you practice kindness and forgive everyone for everything, real or imagined, they have ever done or not done. It is very simple but not so easy to do. If you fail to forgive you will simply get more opportunities in the future to forgive. That is the way the universe works. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 374503 Turkey 07/14/2009 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revenge is 100% of the time a mistake. Revenge or even revenge thoughts keeps you mentally tied to the person you have a grudge against. Quoting: astrogal50 588885The best way to get revenge is NOT to seek it in the first place. Living well is the best revenge, and you WILL live better when you practice kindness and forgive everyone for everything, real or imagined, they have ever done or not done. It is very simple but not so easy to do. If you fail to forgive you will simply get more opportunities in the future to forgive. That is the way the universe works. I'll agree with you after vengeance is served. |
Laura Rich User ID: 808697 United States 12/16/2010 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know several people who have held onto grudges for many years and they think that payback is the solution but its only hurting themselves. I believe in forgiveness and taking the high road at all times. They may continue to wish revenge on me forever but at the end I'am the better person a real mature person, a person of a strong faith and knowing the God is my Vindicator!! I also believe in Good and Bad Karma in life and I have seen both, in my life. [googlevid] |
Livi
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Eyeseeall
User ID: 1193508 United States 12/16/2010 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have several continuing grudges against glp members. It's in their best interest not to try and meet me in person. "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
Livi
User ID: 1196462 United States 12/16/2010 05:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some grudges are worth holding. Quoting: Mister ObviousYes. There are things that just cannot be forgiven. And the reason is this: the harm that was done has changed the victim so that he/she is no longer the same person as when the crime took place. Since the victim no longer exists as they were, there is no one left to offer forgiveness. If you forgive the unforgivable, you dishonor yourself. It is possible that this principle could sever a person from practically all of humanity. Unfortunately, that would not change the cold fact. |
Livi
User ID: 1196462 United States 12/16/2010 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice and a grudge are two seperate things. Justice has broad moral implication while a grudge is highly personal and is a result of pain, humiliation, or lack of control over another person's actions. Grudges eat away at the holder becoming obsessions and corrosive in their relentlessness. Born of frustration and impotent anger a grudge must be feed, nurtured and it feeds on the host for want of resolution. Even if you manage to exact revenge that provides only temporary respite. Grudges are a poison that result in a kind of death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 540408Ah, that's another thing entirely. You can hate a person, passionately, and yet not dwell on them constantly. I can't see constantly hating someone like that; it would seem to be an extremely unpleasant way to live. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 739636 United States 12/16/2010 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some grudges are worth holding. Quoting: LiviYes. There are things that just cannot be forgiven. And the reason is this: the harm that was done has changed the victim so that he/she is no longer the same person as when the crime took place. Since the victim no longer exists as they were, there is no one left to offer forgiveness. If you forgive the unforgivable, you dishonor yourself. It is possible that this principle could sever a person from practically all of humanity. Unfortunately, that would not change the cold fact. You are the first person in 10 years that I have interacted with who understands this simple principle. Thank you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1197032 Germany 12/16/2010 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People sure do seem to hold grudges a long time. Why do you think this is ? Quoting: Spirit * Man !Pride maybe ? Constant seeking of "justice" (the clean word for revenge) What reasons ? * ---V--- Nothing is free in this world or in any. Incomplete sentience has no understanding. For this reason questions the likes of which you ask are posed. In a final analysis, the ultimate justice will simply be the unceremonious removal of all who are devoid of empathy. |
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