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Im begging the 20 people who keep posting "grow your own tobacco" to shut up

 
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08/19/2009 12:14 AM
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I have a 3ft tobacco plant.

tobacco seeds are like dust. You have to put about one inch of soil not dirt in a tray about 1ft by 18in and lightly dust the soil with seeds. Lightly mist with water and cover with a clear lid. Mist the lid once a day. They like it humid but not wet. good luck. Its a good trade stoke for hard times and easy to grow. I live in Hawaii perfect for tobacco and other diversified agriculture. lol
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08/19/2009 12:25 AM
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I ordered some tobacco seed last week. Wish me luck!

neener2

Yeah, good luck!

I ordered my seed two months ago, and then again a month later. I have tried growing 4 different kinds, and I can't get anything to come up no matter what I do, and I have tried everything!?!?



wtf
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Take if from somebody in THE biggest tobacco (cigarette tobacco) state in the US....tobacco seeds are tiny. You have to have a magnifying glass to see a little tobacco plant. You have to have transplants to raise tobacco. Years ago, people would have "beds" where they would manually pull transplants up from to replant in the field. I have never heard of anyone who took raw tobacco seed, go out and make row in the garden, plant them and have anything come up. If you want detailed directions on how to have a plant bed, I can tell you but I'm not sure if bromide gas is still available. You might be able to skip the weed killing stage, in which case you can take the seed, mix it up with lime and bagged fertilizer and broadcast it on to the bed. Cover it with canvas and wait. Once a transplant is in your garden, it only take a little while for that seedling to overtake any weeds. Tobacco has wide leaves and will smother anything else out. Especially if it is planted in dense rows.
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08/19/2009 12:27 AM
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How do I pay the tobacco tax?

Don't want to get nailed for some legal shit nobody says anything about untill they've got you on the hook.

You can legally grow something like a half acre for personal use with no tax liability in the US.

Cool! Now if I can figure out how to turn tobacco into snuff I'll be set
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Should be an easy task. If I were you, I'd look for an old formula book from back in the 1800's
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08/19/2009 12:37 AM
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They grow tobacco commercially in Canada. We once considered buying a farm in Minnesota that had a five acre USDA tobacco allotment. You can grow the stuff anywhere. It is a weed.


The Russians grow it in a cold climate and it can also be grown in Poland, Germany and as far north as Scandinavia.
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I'm not saying you are wrong but american brand cigarettes...sold in Russia are grown right here in the USA. Every type of tobacco I have seen, that is used for cigarettes, is from the same genetic strain that has it's native home in the sub tropics. Tobacco hates cold. If it frosts on it, it will ruin it. So unless they have a different type of tobacco over there, I'd need pictures to believe it. Can anyone provide pictures?
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08/19/2009 12:56 AM
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I ordered some tobacco seed last week. Wish me luck!

neener2

Yeah, good luck!

I ordered my seed two months ago, and then again a month later. I have tried growing 4 different kinds, and I can't get anything to come up no matter what I do, and I have tried everything!?!?



wtf
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this forum will help you get started and take you all the way through curing your tobacco.
[link to www.howtogrowtobacco.com]
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08/19/2009 01:16 AM
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I ordered some tobacco seed last week. Wish me luck!

neener2

Yeah, good luck!

I ordered my seed two months ago, and then again a month later. I have tried growing 4 different kinds, and I can't get anything to come up no matter what I do, and I have tried everything!?!?



wtf
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I have about 120 plants about 2ft. tall,late start as my first sprouting didnt take back in april so i did it again around the end of june just for practice.

I have a green-house im gonna put some in and gonna get started next week on a temp hoop house in the garden for when it starts cooling off.

In N.Central Texas we usually dont get our first frost until the end of october,so maybe i can finish them off under cover.


I got some really good info off a site called(howtogrowtobacco.com)
I put my seeds in small square trays that i saved from frozen pies(large ones)then wet the potting soil/sprinkle seeds mixed with wood ash(or you could use fine sand)but the wood ash i found out helps the seeds germinate better and helps the roots get started quicker.



Then i put cling wrap over the top with a dish towel on top of that and left them on my porch for 2 days(no longer)because mold will start growing.But it was nice and warm out at the time.

Toabacco seeds needs water and heat to jump start them,as soon as the sprouting starts get them under a grow light if inside with some bottom heat going(growers heating tray)or if ya have one use a heating pad.

Another good link is seedman.com
also for old style growing i found a great site for info
on its history,growing,anything you want ta find out is in this google E-Book
Tobacco its history
[link to books.google.com]
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They grow tobacco commercially in Canada. We once considered buying a farm in Minnesota that had a five acre USDA tobacco allotment. You can grow the stuff anywhere. It is a weed.


The Russians grow it in a cold climate and it can also be grown in Poland, Germany and as far north as Scandinavia.

I'm not saying you are wrong but american brand cigarettes...sold in Russia are grown right here in the USA. Every type of tobacco I have seen, that is used for cigarettes, is from the same genetic strain that has it's native home in the sub tropics. Tobacco hates cold. If it frosts on it, it will ruin it. So unless they have a different type of tobacco over there, I'd need pictures to believe it. Can anyone provide pictures?
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You are forgetting that they breed hardy varieties that can stand the cold. It is also a quick growing crop. Granted there is some risk and a hard late or early frost can do quite a bit of damage. However ground that is well sheltered, wind breaks, night coverings, back up seedlings growing in a greenhouse and other modern methods all work well togeather, to make it a viable commercial crop in the more northerly latitudes..
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STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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08/19/2009 05:38 PM
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This forum will help you get started and take you all the way through curing your tobacco.
[link to www.howtogrowtobacco.com]
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Thanks for that.
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08/19/2009 05:57 PM
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They grow tobacco commercially in Canada. We once considered buying a farm in Minnesota that had a five acre USDA tobacco allotment. You can grow the stuff anywhere. It is a weed.



Tobacco "bases" have not been in acres since the early 70's so you must be talking about a really long time ago. In the 70's all USDA allotments were assigned in pounds. Then in '04 all the bases were bought out. Now it's all grown by contract and you can raise as much as you want. I don't know if tobacco can be grown in Canada but tobacco is a semi tropical plant that likes a lot of hot weather and a long growing season.
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I suspect your are right. Real estate agents!

Here, for the Canada skeptics:

By Charles Wyatt - Business Edge
Published: 06/23/2005 - Vol. 1, No. 12

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Tobacco growers, once among Ontario's most prosperous farmers, are quitting in droves.

The latest blow came in May when more than 120 tobacco farmers sold their tobacco quota rights to the federal government under the $67-million Tobacco Adjustment Assistance Program. With the provincial government's contribution to the program, farmers received a total one-time payment of $1.72 per pound of production quota.

"It is a slow death for Ontario tobacco growers," says Doug Ramsey, chairman of the department of rural development at Manitoba's Brandon University. Ramsey, who picked tobacco as a student, is the author of several research papers on the Ontario tobacco industry.

Over the past four years, more than 40 per cent of Ontario's tobacco growers have abandoned the crop, says Jason Lietaer, general manager of the Ontario Flue-Cured Tobacco Growers' Marketing Board in Tillsonburg.
Photos courtesy of the Ontario Flue-Cured Tobacco Growers' Marketing Board
A farmer operates his harvester on one of Ontario's dwindling number of tobacco farms, above, while workers grade the product following its delivery to the sorting area.

About 650 Ontario farmers will plant tobacco in 2005, down from the approximately 770 who planted last year. In 1998, there were about 1,100 flue-cured tobacco growers in Ontario, while in the early 1990s there were about 1,650. Ontario had more than 4,500 tobacco farms in the 1960s.
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08/28/2009 10:37 PM
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How do I pay the tobacco tax?

Don't want to get nailed for some legal shit nobody says anything about untill they've got you on the hook.
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Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a kid?
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08/29/2009 10:25 PM
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How do I pay the tobacco tax?

Don't want to get nailed for some legal shit nobody says anything about untill they've got you on the hook.


Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a kid?
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What you don't think there isn't a law for EVERYTHING?

In many places there is a law that tells you exactly when to mow your lawn. There is a law that stipulates exactly how many electric outlets you have to put in each room.

And there is a law that makes it illegal to sell a house that has uncertified paint in it.
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I heard the problem is NOT in growing your own tobacco, it's the proper way to cure it....there's a thread about that here somewhere....
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im trying to find a small personal tobacco grower in hawaii

please let me know.

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They grow tobacco commercially in Canada. We once considered buying a farm in Minnesota that had a five acre USDA tobacco allotment. You can grow the stuff anywhere. It is a weed.
 Quoting: htp,nli 686272


The Russians grow it in a cold climate and it can also be grown in Poland, Germany and as far north as Scandinavia.
 Quoting: 9teen.47™


Some cheap seeds on ebay.. good sellers.
Probably make lovely seed art ( as of course it is illegal here in Aust to grow it for smoke ). But such lovely seed art and such lovely sellers in Germany & Ukraine who ship internationally.
Easy to confuse with grans letter nothing stand out so make sure not to accidently throw out the letter ;o)

Lovely and fun. I see a great book - grow your own tobacco from seed to smoke also on ebay international shipping. Amazing what you can see there, before our govt new rules come in July 1st ( from memory ) but very soon .. re the sales tAX.

Seems we wont be able to buy on ebay etc ne more as it is too much for them to do .. so they will more then likely block us from usa, uk etc. So look now ....
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ok...but really, why not grow your own?

how do we know that you're not a tobacco industry shill?

peace
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Because home grown tobacco doesnt have anything in common with commercial tobacco
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I grew my own.

I saved a lot of money and in addition paid no taxes on tobacco or income I could have generated doing taxable stuff instead to leeches like OP.

GREAT .. can only recommend this.
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in the last 4 or 5 months of reading on this site i have never seen this add or grow tobbacco
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I think the OP might be refering to this thread that's on GLP...


Thread: Starting and Growing Tobacco from Seeds. New Hope Seed Company: Bringing back old tobacco varities from days gone by. No hybrids... No GMO's
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stoner Yeah that's a good one.
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04/25/2017 03:53 AM
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Please, stop posting "grow your own tobacco" over and over and over in every cigarette thread and even non-smoking related threads.


Heres what your agenda is when you do this

1) i believe people have time time manufacture everything they use

2) i believe we shouldnt oppose fascism, instead we should accept and embrace it and tell people to start being mini multi factories that produces every little thing thats banned or semi-pseudo-banned

3) im a CIA disinfo agent who wants to create a cigarette black market so im going to keep posting grow your own rather than call your congressman and demand freedom

4) i dont care what climate you live in and that tobacco is a very warm and sunny plant, im still going to say grow your own and do lots of labor including curing and rolling for many months just to make one carton because im a fucking asshole
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Poor little you... So you're lazy AF or else and everyone should be like little poor you...
Sure, people, call your Representative ask for freedom, you should get it by next Monday!!!
You must be 12 years old!?
Stick your control freak disease up to your a*s and move on
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My uncle grew his own Marihuanas. He grew three and OD'd in front of his little children.





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