Urban Language = Destruction of Society

Whatever. I did not go to law school and I know more about law than most lawyers. Your point?


That you and most who have commented here have no clue when it comes to linguistics. Shakespeare in its day would have been classified, as you put it, "degenerate" because it was written for the working class masses and was far from the middle and upper class English of its day, yet it is revered as the historical apex of English literary achievement. James Joyce wrote in Irish working-class dialect and is also viewed as one of the English languages greatest writers.

Language is very organic and is dependent upon a range of influential factors in its trajectory of evolution. You can decry what you perceive as society's decline with language as its root cause or a sign of it, but your assertions here are sadly mistaken. I suggest that you stick to law if that is your expertise.

I ain't gonna do it. Get my point, now, linear thinker? *


*Linear thinking. Regurgitative thought patterns which are
acquired as a result of mindless, rote learning, mostly
from books, without the ability to apply any alternate
applications or external logic.

Language is very organic and is dependent upon a range of influential factors in its trajectory of evolution. You can decry what you perceive as society's decline with language as its root cause or a sign of it, but your assertions here are sadly mistaken. I suggest that you stick to law if that is your expertise.

I ain't gonna do it. Get my point, now, linear thinker? *


*Linear thinking. Regurgitative thought patterns which are
acquired as a result of mindless, rote learning, mostly
from books, without the ability to apply any alternate
applications or external logic.


Linear thinking...oh, that's precious! It seems that I've struck a nerve here. You talk as if you are some authority and when I call you out, you reply like a five-year old that has had his feelings hurt. Was that definition of linear thinking there for my benefit or yours? Into how many dimensions does your thought capacity reach, oh Enlightened One? Funny that your supposed expertise comes in the most linear field of thinking ever.

Yes, "American" is a culture and a mindset, but should not be. This is the issue.


Oh, but it should be. America is not a place. There is no country called "America." America is an ideal.

I have been noticing a lot of people using language that I would refer to as street or gutter language.

Also, text messaging accelerates this dilemma.

You people understand that this is the degeneration of your society, don't you?

Here is one of the most prominent sites for the "gutter" language [link to www.urbandictionary.com]

Any intelligent thoughts on this?

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Good post, Jurist.

I typed a thesis for a graduate student some years back that focused on this point ... not "gutter language", per se, but language in general.

It seems that if a nation has occupied another nation (as in the case of certain middle eastern nations being taken under the wing of Great Britain), the first thing the occupiers do is force the occupied nation to give up their own language.

Studies have been made that prove when a culture is forced to give up it's language, that culture is destroyed.

Please don't ask me for links to any of this. I learned this about 35 years ago. (BC = "Before Computers", lol.)


And btw ... this is happening in the US today. Latinos, by not having to give up their language, retain their culture and thus do not become a part of the American culture.

The American Culture has been targeted for destruction for some years now.


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Come on people, they have taken the law from your knowledge and now you are letting them take your language away.

Good grief!

Language is very organic and is dependent upon a range of influential factors in its trajectory of evolution. You can decry what you perceive as society's decline with language as its root cause or a sign of it, but your assertions here are sadly mistaken. I suggest that you stick to law if that is your expertise.

I ain't gonna do it. Get my point, now, linear thinker? *


*Linear thinking. Regurgitative thought patterns which are
acquired as a result of mindless, rote learning, mostly
from books, without the ability to apply any alternate
applications or external logic.


Linear thinking...oh, that's precious! It seems that I've struck a nerve here. You talk as if you are some authority and when I call you out, you reply like a five-year old that has had his feelings hurt. Was that definition of linear thinking there for my benefit or yours? Into how many dimensions does your thought capacity reach, oh Enlightened One? Funny that your supposed expertise comes in the most linear field of thinking ever.

It was for you, my friend... That is you. Look at what you stated. Look at what I just stated sarcastically.

Look at the content of the thread and you will see what is truly being established here.

Linear thinking...oh, that's precious! It seems that I've struck a nerve here. You talk as if you are some authority and when I call you out, you reply like a five-year old that has had his feelings hurt. Was that definition of linear thinking there for my benefit or yours? Into how many dimensions does your thought capacity reach, oh Enlightened One? Funny that your supposed expertise comes in the most linear field of thinking ever.

It was for you, my friend... That is you. Look at what you stated. Look at what I just stated sarcastically.

Look at the content of the thread and you will see what is truly being established here.


AC, ignore the OP. He's unable to see beyond or establish a discussion about any topic if what you have to say differs from his beliefs. It's just a waste of time.

A good example would be the word, fuck or motherfucker.
There was a time when you never heard these words in movies or conversation. They were spoken by a certain segment of society and considered about the worst curse words you could say.Women would never say words like these.

I know I never heard fuck or motherfucker until I was in my teens. My parents never said fuck.

We have been desensitized via movies, television , and internet.

People use these words now without much thought.Some people can't really complete a sentence without saying fuck or some version of it.

Children are hearing these words way too young. but my point is that they are so common now that people pay little attention.

I have been noticing a lot of people using language that I would refer to as street or gutter language.

Also, text messaging accelerates this dilemma.

You people understand that this is the degeneration of your society, don't you?

Here is one of the most prominent sites for the "gutter" language [link to www.urbandictionary.com]

Any intelligent thoughts on this?

.

Good post, Jurist.

I typed a thesis for a graduate student some years back that focused on this point ... not "gutter language", per se, but language in general.

It seems that if a nation has occupied another nation (as in the case of certain middle eastern nations being taken under the wing of Great Britain), the first thing the occupiers do is force the occupied nation to give up their own language.

Studies have been made that prove when a culture is forced to give up it's language, that culture is destroyed.

Please don't ask me for links to any of this. I learned this about 35 years ago. (BC = "Before Computers", lol.)


And btw ... this is happening in the US today. Latinos, by not having to give up their language, retain their culture and thus do not become a part of the American culture.

The American Culture has been targeted for destruction for some years now.


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U are correct,Like a thousand birds singing in the forest,and the eagle does not understand,as the eagle flys away from its nest,the fultures feast.

lightson TAH

We're verbal creatures. There is some research that shows our brains are hardwired for language. Our thoughts and internal dialogues tend to be verbal and our sensory information and overview of reality tend to be verbal. It's no surprise then, that one becomes, in a sense, the language that one uses. To put it bluntly, if your vocabulary consists of gangsterspeak, you're destined to be a piece of shit gangster (or gangster wannabe, anyway). As "urban" language spreads throughout our country, so too will the problems traditionally associated with urban areas...

/... Look to who runs Hollywood to get an idea where this problem lies.

More tools of the orchestrators of the New World Order.

/... Look to who runs Hollywood to get an idea where this problem lies.

More tools of the orchestrators of the New World Order.

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Totally. Most of the filth distributed by Hollywood does not reflect mainstream America.

It has gotten to the point where most of what is shown on television, along with 99% of what is shown in movie theaters (except for animated films such as "Finding Nemo" for instance), is unfit for family viewing.

There was a time, and not that long ago, when films and television for the most part portrayed family values and morality.

Why are the reruns of the old television programs so successful?
Because people are hungry for clean entertainment.

imho

Urban language is a rejection of the status quo. A refusal to conform. The language of revolutionaries. People who speak it, don't want to be the drones, don't want to be just lke everyone else. Don't want to be the shiny new products of a corrupt system.

Here is one of the most prominent sites for the "gutter" language [link to www.urbandictionary.com]

Any intelligent thoughts on this?

Yes, "American" is a culture and a mindset, but should not be. This is the issue.


Oh, but it should be. America is not a place. There is no country called "America." America is an ideal.


The United States of America.Real place to me.

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We are absolutely being purposely dumbed down. An uneducated populace (and that's the correct spelling) is much easier to control. //...

wtf?

Every former generation thinks that the current generation in causing the Destruction of Society.

Language changes with the culture.

No doom here... next?

Diverging from a language is one thing. Not having a grasp of the language you are diverging from is another.

The ability to speak differently in different settings is important. It allows you to communicate with your "audience." But, in my opinion, it's VERY important to be able to speak and write proper English when the occasion calls for it.

Just read any number of threads here and see how many people absolutely do not understand the meaning of the words they are trying to use, or that they are using a word that sounds the same as what they are trying to say but is spelled differently and has a completely different meaning. It's sometimes absolutely hilarious, but at the same time very sad.

We are absolutely being purposely dumbed down. An uneducated populace (and that's the correct spelling) is much easier to control. The American educational system is a disgrace. I've worked in school systems and have seen it first hand. Many teachers themselves can't spell their way out of a paper bag, and it seems to many that if they're teaching a subject other than English it's not important.

Sad.

Only that you should keep in mind that English was once a gutter language, spoken only by uneducated peasants.

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Where in the world did you come up with this idea???


History.

I believe the site that you linked to [urbandicionary] actually provides an evolution in communication in its own way. It's Ebonix that you have to worry about.

All intertwined... This is all part and parcel of the problem.

See this... Multiculturalism, As A Tool To Divide And Conquer [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Language is very organic and is dependent upon a range of influential factors in its trajectory of evolution. You can decry what you perceive as society's decline with language as its root cause or a sign of it, but your assertions here are sadly mistaken. I suggest that you stick to law if that is your expertise.

I ain't gonna do it. Get my point, now, linear thinker? *


*Linear thinking. Regurgitative thought patterns which are
acquired as a result of mindless, rote learning, mostly
from books, without the ability to apply any alternate
applications or external logic.


Linear thinking...oh, that's precious! It seems that I've struck a nerve here. You talk as if you are some authority and when I call you out, you reply like a five-year old that has had his feelings hurt. Was that definition of linear thinking there for my benefit or yours? Into how many dimensions does your thought capacity reach, oh Enlightened One? Funny that your supposed expertise comes in the most linear field of thinking ever.

It was for you, my friend... That is you. Look at what you stated. Look at what I just stated sarcastically.

Look at the content of the thread and you will see what is truly being established here.


AC, ignore the OP. He's unable to see beyond or establish a discussion about any topic if what you have to say differs from his beliefs. It's just a waste of time.

Oh good grief, here comes the agenda. Every topic must hide this persons talking points of hatred for some group.

Oh good grief, here comes the agenda. Every topic must hide this persons talking points of hatred for some group.

AlreadyBuggedOut is nothing but a Communist Shill!

Oh good grief, here comes the agenda. Every topic must hide this persons talking points of hatred for some group.

AlreadyBuggedOut is nothing but a Communist Shill!


I agree with you He doesnt mind our nations being destroyed in the name of false diversity and equality. I have seen lot of hypocrits lately