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It's all good folks. It's happy happy joy joy time.

One good thing comes out of this though.

Ammo and firearms sales are at a record high. Imagine that.

Do your part to help the US economy.


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U.S. Factory Production Falls; Capacity at Record Low (Update1)


By Bob Willis

June 16 (Bloomberg) -- Industrial production in the U.S. fell in May for the 16th time in the last 17 months, reflecting declines in consumer goods and business equipment that signals the manufacturing slump remains broad-based.

Output at factories, mines and utilities decreased 1.1 percent last month, in line with forecasts, after falling a revised 0.7 percent in April, Federal Reserve data showed today in Washington. The amount of industrial capacity in use dropped to a record-low 68.3 percent.

The fallout from bankruptcies at Chrysler LLC and General Motors Corp. may ripple beyond auto-related industries in coming months. Without a rebound in manufacturing, any recovery from the worst economic slump in half a century will take longer to emerge.

“Production is still falling and that can only mean that this recession isn’t over yet,” Chris Rupkey, chief economist at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd. in New York, said before the report. “The consumer is still on a buying strike so many companies are scaling back their output to adjust for the reduced demand.”

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Hey Omega.....but housing starts are up!

Talk about a serious propaganda machine.......holy s**t.
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Hey Omega.....but housing starts are up!

Talk about a serious propaganda machine.......holy s**t.
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Yeah I noticed how they spun the story with some *good news* lmao.

In some area's of the country, here in Central Texas would be a good example, the housing industry is still doing fairly well.

California, Nevada, Arizona, Florida and many other States it's a fricken' disaster.
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They don't mention firearm or ammunition manufacturers.

That'd be interesting.

Plenty of openings I imagine if someone's looking for work.
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When TSHTF will you send me 5 lbs of taters?


People just don't get it yet. The Market is up.


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When TSHTF will you send me 5 lbs of taters?


People just don't get it yet. The Market is up.


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LOL. Maybe I am gonna have a bunch.....

Which reminds me, back outside for me to tend that stuff before the Texas sun roasts my ass.......

Have fun folks..... :5:
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Coming back from Home Depot yesterday some truck had " Got Amo? on their license plate. I thought of you Omega. This thought process of taking care of yourself is coming back very fast now. Orange County? Anyone from GLP?
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Coming back from Home Depot yesterday some truck had " Got Amo? on their license plate. I thought of you Omega. This thought process of taking care of yourself is coming back very fast now. Orange County? Anyone from GLP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 437823


Cool. ;>_

In the late 1980's I lived in Orange County. Cerritos. It was a nice area at the time have no idea what it's like now.........
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Coming back from Home Depot yesterday some truck had " Got Amo? on their license plate. I thought of you Omega. This thought process of taking care of yourself is coming back very fast now. Orange County? Anyone from GLP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 437823


I hope people take care of themselves, but I also hope people don't take advantage of others without guns and ammo.

If people are just stocking up to rob others, that's sad.

I'm sure none of you intend to do that, but I'd bet there are many who think it's okay to stock up to rob from others who have.
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Coming back from Home Depot yesterday some truck had " Got Amo? on their license plate. I thought of you Omega. This thought process of taking care of yourself is coming back very fast now. Orange County? Anyone from GLP?


I hope people take care of themselves, but I also hope people don't take advantage of others without guns and ammo.

If people are just stocking up to rob others, that's sad.

I'm sure none of you intend to do that, but I'd bet there are many who think it's okay to stock up to rob from others who have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 630140


Well virtually NONE of the firearms owners I know (many) here in Texas plan on taking anything from anyone.


We plan on defending property and life of our loved ones and neighbors, if need be.
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but...but... the MSM says the recessions is over and the country is rebounding... they wouldn't lie, would they?
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I have to give GLP credit for seeing this economic meltdown coming.There are people out there that think this economic meltdown started with Obama.It is not that simple.
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I have to give GLP credit for seeing this economic meltdown coming.There are people out there that think this economic meltdown started with Obama.It is not that simple.
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I know the Obamination didn't start it.

But he's sure as hell gonna finish it.

The hard way.

Think total complete socialism before it's all done.

damned
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Hey Omega.....but housing starts are up!

Talk about a serious propaganda machine.......holy s**t.


Yeah I noticed how they spun the story with some *good news* lmao.

In some area's of the country, here in Central Texas would be a good example, the housing industry is still doing fairly well.

California, Nevada, Arizona, Florida and many other States it's a fricken' disaster.
 Quoting: Omega


Omega, what kind of work do you do? Did you ever go to Cerritos College? I went there in the 80's but I understand that it's all mexican there now. Not safe to walk the streets. A real shame.
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Hey Omega.....but housing starts are up!

Talk about a serious propaganda machine.......holy s**t.


Yeah I noticed how they spun the story with some *good news* lmao.

In some area's of the country, here in Central Texas would be a good example, the housing industry is still doing fairly well.

California, Nevada, Arizona, Florida and many other States it's a fricken' disaster.


Omega, what kind of work do you do? Did you ever go to Cerritos College? I went there in the 80's but I understand that it's all mexican there now. Not safe to walk the streets. A real shame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 703826


Escalation response engineer for a major computer company.

I took business classes at Cerritos college. Had a good time lol....

Shame to hear what its like now.....
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SO what if capacity is a 68%? that is to be expected. In fact the highest capacity ever in the US was 86% in 1998. Lower capacity right now overall is to be expected with the slowdown in auto sales, etc. Just because capacity is operating at that low a percentage doesnt mean its a bad thing, its on purpose until demand picks up. Its all supply and demand. Why increase supply when demand is low? Its all cycles, things change. Learn some basic economics.
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SO what if capacity is a 68%? that is to be expected. In fact the highest capacity ever in the US was 86% in 1998. Lower capacity right now overall is to be expected with the slowdown in auto sales, etc. Just because capacity is operating at that low a percentage doesnt mean its a bad thing, its on purpose until demand picks up. Its all supply and demand. Why increase supply when demand is low? Its all cycles, things change. Learn some basic economics.
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HUH? And this affects employment how????

Capacity is lowest since 1946 or 47.



Buy a fucking clue skippy.
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This is a badly written article. The article has serious mistakes in it. It's not "industrial capacity" that has dropped, but production. There is less "industrial capacity" that is online and running, but that's not the same thing as saying that capacity is low.

There is actually excess capacity because factories are taking industrial capacity offline. You can see the writer of the article actually understands this because he talks about an "excess in capacity" in the article:

One positive aspect of the excess in capacity is that it will help control inflation should raw-material costs keep rising, economists say.

The real news is that production is low and there is excess capacity because factory orders are down and production is being taken offline. Someone didn't know how to squeeze that into a title tho.

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This is a badly written article. The article has serious mistakes in it. It's not "industrial capacity" that has dropped, but production. There is less "industrial capacity" that is online and running, but that's not the same thing as saying that capacity is low.

There is actually excess capacity because factories are taking industrial capacity offline. You can see the writer of the article actually understands this because he talks about an "excess in capacity" in the article:

One positive aspect of the excess in capacity is that it will help control inflation should raw-material costs keep rising, economists say.

The real news is that production is low and there is excess capacity because factory orders are down and production is being taken offline. Someone didn't know how to squeeze that into a title tho.
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+1 I read it and said the damn thing. Dumbfuck MSM.
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This is a badly written article. The article has serious mistakes in it. It's not "industrial capacity" that has dropped, but production. There is less "industrial capacity" that is online and running, but that's not the same thing as saying that capacity is low.

There is actually excess capacity because factories are taking industrial capacity offline. You can see the writer of the article actually understands this because he talks about an "excess in capacity" in the article:

One positive aspect of the excess in capacity is that it will help control inflation should raw-material costs keep rising, economists say.

The real news is that production is low and there is excess capacity because factory orders are down and production is being taken offline. Someone didn't know how to squeeze that into a title tho.

+1 I read it and said the damn thing. Dumbfuck MSM.
 Quoting: Wraith1970

Half the journalists covering economics don't know what the hell they are talking about. That's part of the problem in this country, because there's no real clear info conveyed to the voting masses, just mumbledy-jumble all the time.

Apart from the bad writing, the data referenced in the article is newsworthy. Commodities are taking a hit on account of the production declines and the excess capacity indicates factory orders are down and demand is projected to fall.
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This is a badly written article. The article has serious mistakes in it. It's not "industrial capacity" that has dropped, but production. There is less "industrial capacity" that is online and running, but that's not the same thing as saying that capacity is low.

There is actually excess capacity because factories are taking industrial capacity offline. You can see the writer of the article actually understands this because he talks about an "excess in capacity" in the article:

One positive aspect of the excess in capacity is that it will help control inflation should raw-material costs keep rising, economists say.

The real news is that production is low and there is excess capacity because factory orders are down and production is being taken offline. Someone didn't know how to squeeze that into a title tho.
 Quoting: Andromeda



The Fed calls it Industrial Production and Capacity Utilization. Big whoop it still bodes badly for the US economy.

Read it and weep.

[link to www.federalreserve.gov]

The Fed cannot merely print it's way outta this mess anyone with a fucking clue knows inflation is on its way.


Hows that price of gas working out for ya's lmfao.....
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This is a badly written article. The article has serious mistakes in it. It's not "industrial capacity" that has dropped, but production. There is less "industrial capacity" that is online and running, but that's not the same thing as saying that capacity is low.

There is actually excess capacity because factories are taking industrial capacity offline. You can see the writer of the article actually understands this because he talks about an "excess in capacity" in the article:

One positive aspect of the excess in capacity is that it will help control inflation should raw-material costs keep rising, economists say.

The real news is that production is low and there is excess capacity because factory orders are down and production is being taken offline. Someone didn't know how to squeeze that into a title tho.



The Fed calls it Industrial Production and Capacity Utilization. Big whoop it still bodes badly for the US economy.

Read it and weep.

[link to www.federalreserve.gov]

The Fed cannot merely print it's way outta this mess anyone with a fucking clue knows inflation is on its way.


Hows that price of gas working out for ya's lmfao.....
 Quoting: Omega

I'm ready for the price of gas to rise. I haven't got the clean diesel or Lister motor generated that I wanted yet, tho, to convert to biofuels. But if the price of gas shoots back up to $4 a gallon it won't kill me.

Thanks for the link. This is important news.
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My bro in law works at a factory and they are pulling OT right now.

They make windows btw...
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My bro in law works at a factory and they are pulling OT right now.

They make windows btw...
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Bingo... energy efficiency.

I'm redesigning our duct system and electrical wiring.
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My bro in law works at a factory and they are pulling OT right now.

They make windows btw...

Bingo... energy efficiency.

I'm redesigning our duct system and electrical wiring.
 Quoting: Andromeda



Good point! Lowes is booming from what i hear, home depot too...
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My bro in law works at a factory and they are pulling OT right now.

They make windows btw...

Bingo... energy efficiency.

I'm redesigning our duct system and electrical wiring.



Good point! Lowes is booming from what i hear, home depot too...
 Quoting: SevenSun


Lowes is deader than hell when I go in there. Compared to last year at this time, it's a ghost town. Also, they've fired everyone who knew what they were doing. Paying peanuts hires monkeys, I guess.
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My bro in law works at a factory and they are pulling OT right now.

They make windows btw...

Bingo... energy efficiency.

I'm redesigning our duct system and electrical wiring.



Good point! Lowes is booming from what i hear, home depot too...
 Quoting: SevenSun


Yes, some people are trying to raise home values with sweat equity and others are gearing up for the long haul instead of switching houses every couple of years.
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This is a badly written article. The article has serious mistakes in it. It's not "industrial capacity" that has dropped, but production. There is less "industrial capacity" that is online and running, but that's not the same thing as saying that capacity is low.

There is actually excess capacity because factories are taking industrial capacity offline. You can see the writer of the article actually understands this because he talks about an "excess in capacity" in the article:

One positive aspect of the excess in capacity is that it will help control inflation should raw-material costs keep rising, economists say.

The real news is that production is low and there is excess capacity because factory orders are down and production is being taken offline. Someone didn't know how to squeeze that into a title tho.

+1 I read it and said the damn thing. Dumbfuck MSM.

Half the journalists covering economics don't know what the hell they are talking about. That's part of the problem in this country, because there's no real clear info conveyed to the voting masses, just mumbledy-jumble all the time.

Apart from the bad writing, the data referenced in the article is newsworthy. Commodities are taking a hit on account of the production declines and the excess capacity indicates factory orders are down and demand is projected to fall.
 Quoting: Andromeda


We had a nice bubble of business that we booked in April and May. Been dead ass quiet ever since. Going to be experiencing doom here again in mid to late August if it doesn't pickup soon. People we called back from layoff over the last month may be laid off again......
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Apart from the bad writing, the data referenced in the article is newsworthy. Commodities are taking a hit on account of the production declines and the excess capacity indicates factory orders are down and demand is projected to fall.


We had a nice bubble of business that we booked in April and May. Been dead ass quiet ever since. Going to be experiencing doom here again in mid to late August if it doesn't pickup soon. People we called back from layoff over the last month may be laid off again......
 Quoting: Wraith1970

Good luck with that, Wraith... gotta go do some shopping now meself! Doing my part for the economy!
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My bro in law works at a factory and they are pulling OT right now.

They make windows btw...

Bingo... energy efficiency.

I'm redesigning our duct system and electrical wiring.



Good point! Lowes is booming from what i hear, home depot too...
 Quoting: SevenSun

Seriously, that's where you go when you're gardening and working on the house! Gotta go there myself, now...
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I too must go do some shopping now. Online at Natchez Shooting Supplies, Cabelas, and Buds gun Shop. Have a nice day.

:5:

Anyone wanna trade some organic eggplant and squash for some .300 win mag ammo?

Just curious.

Trying to get my barter game face on.

rofl
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