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This deserves it's own thread........in my humble opinion. I posted it originally as a reply to another thread.


Ok.......couldn't resist. Want to start by saying that I am not a homo-phobe and definitely not someone that hates gay people. What I do hate however.......is what happened to people that are gay. The pink elephant (not trying to be funny) in the room has always been molestation. Everyone wants to argue over genes, tendencies, hormone levels, etc. etc. The thing I rarely ever see is the real cause of the majority of people being gay...........they were molested as children or young adults. The older I get the more I realize that there is not one single family that has been spared of this in some fashion. People are possessed by entities that desire to be able to inhabit another vessel. That is what is real. I am not in any way throwing stones at the OP or anyone that is gay. I have known many that are.........a guy that works for me now is married but in a not so hidden homosexual affair with a gay guy. He has 2 kids and is an extremely talented musician. He also is very emotionally unstable at times. That is the other thing no one wants to talk about. Gay people are not happy at a soul level. They have been violated and abused and it is what is now 'inside' them that is speaking with such conviction that the OP has about defending the practice of being gay. It is not natural. No one can argue it is. A male is physically not made to be with another male. Gay people know this. They know it on a tortured soul level far deeper than argumentative rhetoric. I have never met a homosexual that is really happy with themselves deep down. Never. They are usually extremely moody and battle depression constantly. They almost always believe in stark contrast from the morals of Christians. I do however agree with the OP that a lot of professing Christians drive away gay people because of their hate towards them. That is wrong. But quite frankly.......so is homosexuality. It just is. I for one know that those that are gay would secretly, in many cases, not be so and wish they were not. I lived down the street from a guy who had a little boy and a pretty wife. He was very affluent and had all the right 'things'. He had a really nice house, cars, boats, motorcycles, etc. etc. He made very good money for someone as young as he was....(mid 30's). He was a nice looking guy. He had what everyone in this materialistic world would say is a great life. Problem is, he had a secret. He was always having to take 'all boys' trips that usually coincided with gay parades/rallies in certain towns. The minute I met him I knew he was what I call a hider. They hide behind the wife and kids. He has had many many affairs with other hiders and openly gay men. He thinks that his secret is safe. Some people that he has been with have talked. His time of hiding is almost up. One disturbing fact to this however is his 4 year old son. He has been developing bruises on his lower back that look like thumb prints. His mom asked me if I thought her husband was gay. I said definitely. She said she was concerned something was happening to her son. Point is, gay men molest. They molest because they are driven to do so. They molest because they were. One day soon the truth of how much sexual abuse pervades our society is going to be openly discussed.............instead of hidden ! There is no gay gene........but there are gay spirits that possess people. That is the real issue.
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Your anus is a stargate, the genie comes out when you rub the phallus of the lamp. You should also know the vagina is a box aka cube. So whether you stick your dick in a pussy or ass your still forcing an entity into a vessel. Your right yet so far from the truth. You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.
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Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned
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What Kevan says is the truth. bump
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.

Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned
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Kevan, How is it going?
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.

Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned


Kevan, How is it going?
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Pretty good. How are you? Who are you? lol
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you got it! this is so true. this is the major cause for both men and women!

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Your anus is a stargate
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Mine is like a neutron star sometimes, blasting into space.

But yes, I think OP is right, children get preyed upon and this truth is poo poo'd.
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How do you account for homosexuality in the animal kingdom?

Do you think an animal was molested by some other animal, and then turned gay?
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Your anus is a stargate


Mine is like a neutron star sometimes, blasting into space.

But yes, I think OP is right, children get preyed upon and this truth is poo poo'd.
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mine's a black hole. Once something goes in, it doesn't come back out.
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.

Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned
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...not really if you can accept that every human is a nephlim and that there is no salvation then you have reached the truth. We were the ones that left our first estate and are trying to get back to heaven. If you can grasp this then everything will become clear...im sorry if you lose your sanity when you follow this to the logical conclusion of the future.
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This is totally bogus. I've known two young men who were very feminine by preschool age and who certainly were not molested. Yes, they grew up gay. One knew he was gay at 8 and had a talk with his baby sitter about how he was different, kind of like a girl.
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Likewise, I bet if Riker got on here, she'd squelch this from the female side.
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.

Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned


Kevan, How is it going?

Pretty good. How are you? Who are you? lol
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I have had a long struggle with lust for 14 plus years. destroyed most of my life.
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I TRANSFERRED THIS FROM ORIGINAL THREAD ABOUT GAY GENE.........because I thought it so relevant.



Thank you Kevan for saying what I know from experience to be true.
But you will get slammed by those who insist that 'pedophiles are straight, not gay.' That is just not so. "People ARE possessed by entities that desire to be able to inhabit another vessel." That is what sodomy is really all about,
it is a mechanism for these entities (they are actually plasma lifeforms) to download themselves into our carbon-based bodies. Sodomy really isn't about 'sex' at all. We just think it is. These plasma lifeforms can influence
our perceptions so that they can use our bodies this way and we 'like' it.
They are in 'takeover' mode right now with all the political correctness about sodomite lifestyles. Their is a reason most traditional cultures are very leary of endorsing sodomy and we are stupid to not pay attention to their warnings.
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OP.....Don't get insulted, but is your job devoted to spreading ignorance?

Quite frankly, it's been a while since I've heard such utter crap..... You should stick to what you know...whatever that may be.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.... Jesus said that didn't he.... well he was right.
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

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"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.

Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned


...not really if you can accept that every human is a nephlim and that there is no salvation then you have reached the truth. We were the ones that left our first estate and are trying to get back to heaven. If you can grasp this then everything will become clear...im sorry if you lose your sanity when you follow this to the logical conclusion of the future.
 Quoting: Scalen Illuminist 470667

I can more than grasp the depths of the rabbit hole. Trust me. The logical conclusion of the future does not include rape of children. Not in the future I am going to be in anyway.
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.

Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned


...not really if you can accept that every human is a nephlim and that there is no salvation then you have reached the truth. We were the ones that left our first estate and are trying to get back to heaven. If you can grasp this then everything will become clear...im sorry if you lose your sanity when you follow this to the logical conclusion of the future.

I can more than grasp the depths of the rabbit hole. Trust me. The logical conclusion of the future does not include rape of children. Not in the future I am going to be in anyway.
 Quoting: KEVAN


amen
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OP.....Don't get insulted, but is your job devoted to spreading ignorance?

Quite frankly, it's been a while since I've heard such utter crap..... You should stick to what you know...whatever that may be.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.... Jesus said that didn't he.... well he was right.
 Quoting: Canuck

Can I ask if you are gay? If you read my thread you would know that I am certainly not judging.
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That is what sodomy is really all about,
it is a mechanism for these entities (they are actually plasma lifeforms) to download themselves into our carbon-based bodies...
They are in 'takeover' mode right now.
 Quoting: KEVAN


This is straying a bit from your OPs abuse theory I think.
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OP.....Don't get insulted, but is your job devoted to spreading ignorance?

Quite frankly, it's been a while since I've heard such utter crap..... You should stick to what you know...whatever that may be.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.... Jesus said that didn't he.... well he was right.
 Quoting: Canuck


I believe he is right in saying the truth. Jesus was all for the truth. What about you? Were you a victim, have you suppressed the violent act imposed on you by a person of trust?
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.

Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned


...not really if you can accept that every human is a nephlim and that there is no salvation then you have reached the truth. We were the ones that left our first estate and are trying to get back to heaven. If you can grasp this then everything will become clear...im sorry if you lose your sanity when you follow this to the logical conclusion of the future.

I can more than grasp the depths of the rabbit hole. Trust me. The logical conclusion of the future does not include rape of children. Not in the future I am going to be in anyway.
 Quoting: KEVAN


I beg to differ you under estimate the talent of our agents, and btw the hour later than you think...the future is almost now

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I agree.
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This deserves it's own thread........in my humble opinion. I posted it originally as a reply to another thread.


Ok.......couldn't resist. Want to start by saying that I am not a homo-phobe and definitely not someone that hates gay people. What I do hate however.......is what happened to people that are gay. The pink elephant (not trying to be funny) in the room has always been molestation. Everyone wants to argue over genes, tendencies, hormone levels, etc. etc. The thing I rarely ever see is the real cause of the majority of people being gay...........they were molested as children or young adults. The older I get the more I realize that there is not one single family that has been spared of this in some fashion. People are possessed by entities that desire to be able to inhabit another vessel. That is what is real. I am not in any way throwing stones at the OP or anyone that is gay. I have known many that are.........a guy that works for me now is married but in a not so hidden homosexual affair with a gay guy. He has 2 kids and is an extremely talented musician. He also is very emotionally unstable at times. That is the other thing no one wants to talk about. Gay people are not happy at a soul level. They have been violated and abused and it is what is now 'inside' them that is speaking with such conviction that the OP has about defending the practice of being gay. It is not natural. No one can argue it is. A male is physically not made to be with another male. Gay people know this. They know it on a tortured soul level far deeper than argumentative rhetoric. I have never met a homosexual that is really happy with themselves deep down. Never. They are usually extremely moody and battle depression constantly. They almost always believe in stark contrast from the morals of Christians. I do however agree with the OP that a lot of professing Christians drive away gay people because of their hate towards them. That is wrong. But quite frankly.......so is homosexuality. It just is. I for one know that those that are gay would secretly, in many cases, not be so and wish they were not. I lived down the street from a guy who had a little boy and a pretty wife. He was very affluent and had all the right 'things'. He had a really nice house, cars, boats, motorcycles, etc. etc. He made very good money for someone as young as he was....(mid 30's). He was a nice looking guy. He had what everyone in this materialistic world would say is a great life. Problem is, he had a secret. He was always having to take 'all boys' trips that usually coincided with gay parades/rallies in certain towns. The minute I met him I knew he was what I call a hider. They hide behind the wife and kids. He has had many many affairs with other hiders and openly gay men. He thinks that his secret is safe. Some people that he has been with have talked. His time of hiding is almost up. One disturbing fact to this however is his 4 year old son. He has been developing bruises on his lower back that look like thumb prints. His mom asked me if I thought her husband was gay. I said definitely. She said she was concerned something was happening to her son. Point is, gay men molest. They molest because they are driven to do so. They molest because they were. One day soon the truth of how much sexual abuse pervades our society is going to be openly discussed.............instead of hidden ! There is no gay gene........but there are gay spirits that possess people. That is the real issue.
 Quoting: KEVAN


No I'm not gay....... but I will defend their right to be themselves....against the likes of you and those like you.

See highlighted parts of your self-serving,sanctimonious, diatrabe.... you think you know more than you really do... how sad you take it upon yourself to judge others.

You probably could never in a million years understand the concept of WE ARE ONE.... could you?????
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
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You could never handle the truth if you really knew how deep the rabbit holes goes.

Uh....er.......uh, I bet your rabbit goes really really really far. stoned


Kevan, How is it going?

Pretty good. How are you? Who are you? lol


I have had a long struggle with lust for 14 plus years. destroyed most of my life.
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Ok....sorry to ask whom you are. Your privacy is definitely warranted and respected.

First off......I want to say that what you are experiencing is 100% normal. We all battle fleshly lust/addictions in some form or the other ( i.e.- sexual, drugs, food, etc.). You must not get lured into the belief that you are weird and perverted and can never change. You are none of the above. If you could for at least a moment separate yourself from your desires. What I mean by that is stop blaming yourself and understand that you probably are battling 'demons' that have been allowed access into your being. I know this sounds crazy........but how many times have you heard that people are 'battling their own personal demons'? Guess what........they are battling literal entities that can and do possess human vessels. Please do not think you are in the minority. You are most assuredly not. Stop beating yourself up for what you have done, or what you have thought. Spiritual possession is the elephant in the room people cannot allow to be part of the equation.......but unfortunately it is a big part. Your response already shows me that you do not like what you feel urges to do. Lust is a very powerful demon. Probably one of the most powerful. I know. I battled strong ones tooth and nail. Mine were the lust of women. They were extremely persistent and always wanting me to at least 'look'. One thing I know is that no matter what it is you are trying to be free from........you CAN be free. Promise. There is a way. worship

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Judge not, lest ye be judged.... Jesus said that didn't he.... well he was right.



Typical gay response as the defense of a tragic sin against God himself. Be sure and use this same argument to the Almighty when you knell before him as all man will do.
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OP.....Don't get insulted, but is your job devoted to spreading ignorance?

Quite frankly, it's been a while since I've heard such utter crap..... You should stick to what you know...whatever that may be.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.... Jesus said that didn't he.... well he was right.


I believe he is right in saying the truth. Jesus was all for the truth. What about you? Were you a victim, have you suppressed the violent act imposed on you by a person of trust?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 690796



No I was never abused.... but I would fight to the death for you to hold your beliefs even though they are not in accord with mine.

People hide behind ignorance for many reasons.... what's yours?
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it's ridiculed. Second, it's violently opposed. Third it's accepted as being self-evident.

Kevan you are so right. Someday it will no longer be like this... Thank God.
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Judge not, lest ye be judged.... Jesus said that didn't he.... well he was right.



Typical gay response as the defense of a tragic sin against God himself. Be sure and use this same argument to the Almighty when you knell before him as all man will do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 431596



Sorry to disappoint.... I'm not gay... and judging by the old saying, "What you don't know can't hurt you", you would be practically invulnerable, wouldn't you? ;)
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
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How do you account for homosexuality in the animal kingdom?

Do you think an animal was molested by some other animal, and then turned gay?
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Anyone wish to answer this? OP didn't.
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I can more than grasp the depths of the rabbit hole. Trust me. The logical conclusion of the future does not include rape of children. Not in the future I am going to be in anyway.


I beg to differ you under estimate the talent of our agents, and btw the hour later than you think...the future is almost now

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 Quoting: Scalen Illuminist 470667

........and you underestimate the ability afforded God's children. We are awakening. Why do you and yours strive so hard to stop this ??? Because if we are awake, and you are aware.................you and yours will only have one another to molest.
"That's all I have to say about that" - Forrest Gump





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