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| Andromeda
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 431716 United States05/21/2009 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i worked as a PTA for a number of years. Those kind of things dont really heal and can only get fixed in surgery. The reason they tell u to do physical therapy is to see if the healthy tissue that is unharmed can get stronger and compensate for the part that is torn. ITs a very painful process that is going to make u to want to cuss out the therapist because they will make u workout even though its torn. Best thing to do is keep that diet regimen, massage is fine but dont over do it, stretch so u wont lose mobility, and do very light weight to gain muscle to compensate. Apply warmth on the area before stretch and exercise and ice it afterward. Like they said if it doesnt "Feel" better or the mobility cant be gained u need surgery. the physical therapy after the surgery is going to be torture but has high success rate. |
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| Andromeda
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| pigstick User ID: 684154 United States05/21/2009 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.sport-fitness-advisor.com] |
| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | google: soup can rotator cuff, worked for me. I swear by it, hurts like hell, but my shoulders have never been stronger. Quoting: pigstick 684154[link to www.sport-fitness-advisor.com] THAT IS COOL. GREAT TO HAVE THE ANIMATED GIF. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SPORTS I CAN STILL DO WHILE INJURED. WE WERE THINKING OF STILL GOING FLY FISHING THIS WEEKEND AND MY JUST CASTING SIDEWAYS AND NOT CASTING OVER MY SHOULDER OR OVERDOING IT. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 534332 United States05/21/2009 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ive had 5 surgerys on shoulders (MTB racing) anyways if you have the time i would just get surgery, they can just scope now instead of traditional "cut you up" Might depend where you live? western doctors are quite frankly terrible, one good thing of the east, good doctors. Anyways i recommend look into it, i had been scoped twice which usually sling for about 2 1/2- 4 1/2 months, this need to type of scoping i was out of my sling 26 days felt so good, that was year and half ago, it came out so tight and nice. Obviously with the summer might want your arm, could do it in the fall. My suggestion is watch the docs real carefully, first time i had surgery doc totally messed me more...ask around your area and figure out who's good. we can all tie our shoes, but everyone ties different if you know what i mean. also get some elastic bands could try to strengthen it, but if your really active chances are you'll end up in the cycle of dislocating and dislocating ect ect. eventually need surgery anyways cause its like hammering wood, each time disloacte your changing the shape in there |
| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ive had 5 surgerys on shoulders (MTB racing) anyways if you have the time i would just get surgery, they can just scope now instead of traditional "cut you up" Might depend where you live? western doctors are quite frankly terrible, one good thing of the east, good doctors. Anyways i recommend look into it, i had been scoped twice which usually sling for about 2 1/2- 4 1/2 months, this need to type of scoping i was out of my sling 26 days felt so good, that was year and half ago, it came out so tight and nice. Obviously with the summer might want your arm, could do it in the fall. My suggestion is watch the docs real carefully, first time i had surgery doc totally messed me more...ask around your area and figure out who's good. we can all tie our shoes, but everyone ties different if you know what i mean. also get some elastic bands could try to strengthen it, but if your really active chances are you'll end up in the cycle of dislocating and dislocating ect ect. eventually need surgery anyways cause its like hammering wood, each time disloacte your changing the shape in there Quoting: Anonymous Coward 534332WOW! 5 SURGERIES. I HAVE PRETTY GOOD DOCTORS BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU ANYTHING HERE. DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS ABROAD BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO RESEARCH STUFF ON YOUR OWN IF YOU GET SICK IN THE U.S. THANKS FOR THE INFO ABOUT HOW THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY, ETC. THANKS, MAYBE I'LL GET A SECOND OPINION, SO THAT I KNOW WHAT THE CHANCES I HAVE OF MAYBE INJURING IT SOME MORE IF I DON'T GET SURGERY. |
| anonymous User ID: 684579 United States05/21/2009 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a friend of mhy had a rotor cuff dislocation..her chiropractor put it back in place in one visit . she was not even able to raise her arm up til her chiroprator reset the dislocated shoulder in one visit in his office . ..no surgery needed . ..no follow up ..a done deal . years later it has not give her any problems ..she can reach up over her head with both arms to reach stuff from cabinet shelves with no problem from the get go .. no tramatic surgery needed.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 534332 United States05/21/2009 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ive had emergency surgery in salt lake city, one in phoenix and the rest here in bostom area. just depends how you feel, what exactly is going on? but yes if you opt for surgery find the right person to it, don't believe the hype just regular old thing. Can be like me and roll around trying to get to sleep for 2 hours eveynight if dont take care of it right, got so bad id lean over pick-up piece of paper my shoulder fall out haha, just oe of those things. |
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| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i live in boston. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 534332ive had emergency surgery in salt lake city, one in phoenix and the rest here in bostom area. just depends how you feel, what exactly is going on? but yes if you opt for surgery find the right person to it, don't believe the hype just regular old thing. Can be like me and roll around trying to get to sleep for 2 hours eveynight if dont take care of it right, got so bad id lean over pick-up piece of paper my shoulder fall out haha, just oe of those things. SUPPOSEDLY HE SAID THE INJURY IS PRETTY MINOR, SHOWED ME SOME DEGRADATION OF A COUPLE OF TENDONS, AND SOME MICROTEARS, FLATTENING AND IMPINGEMENT OF A COUPLE OF MUSCLES. NO MAJOR TEARS. NOTHING FALLING OUT OF PLACE YET! THANK GOODNESS. |
| Andromeda
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| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i worked as a PTA for a number of years. Those kind of things dont really heal and can only get fixed in surgery. The reason they tell u to do physical therapy is to see if the healthy tissue that is unharmed can get stronger and compensate for the part that is torn. ITs a very painful process that is going to make u to want to cuss out the therapist because they will make u workout even though its torn. Best thing to do is keep that diet regimen, massage is fine but dont over do it, stretch so u wont lose mobility, and do very light weight to gain muscle to compensate. Apply warmth on the area before stretch and exercise and ice it afterward. Like they said if it doesnt "Feel" better or the mobility cant be gained u need surgery. the physical therapy after the surgery is going to be torture but has high success rate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 431716THANKS AGAIN FOR THESE TIPS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW HOW TO SELF-TREAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE... SO AS TO HELP THE HEALING AND NOT HAVE SETBACKS AFTER SOME READING, I'M GOING TO START TAKING MORE ANTI-INFLAMMATORY INFUSIONS (TEAS ETC) AND TAKING IN ORAL COLLAGEN SUPPLEMENTS (WHICH I HAVE ON HAND), RUNNING ALMOST DAILY (TO STIMULATE HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE LEVELS) AND OTHER ANABOLIC BOOSTING ACTIVITY. |
| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 534332 GREAT GREAT GREAT! THANK YOU!! |
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| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good luck man. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 534332cheerz I tore my left one up about 10 years ago and it still gives me fits,didnt get the operation that i should have but i will once my new insurance kicks in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684596good luck with yours THANKS, MAN AFTER READING WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH I FEEL VERY LUCKY IT'S NOT A FULL TEAR |
| rachel User ID: 610501 United States05/21/2009 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | o and since he was having trouble sleeping we bought a noodle pillow to leverage. google healing qualitys of comfrey. it took 2 too 3 weeks 2 heal but he shoulda kept putting it on. he was swimming and it started hurting him so he's gonna start applying again. its called broke bone herb. heals tendons and bones. great herb. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 581347 United States05/21/2009 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If me, I would first seek out & try various alternative treatments of all sorts including holistic, naturalpaths, osteopathic manipulations, massage, yoga classes, acupuncture, etc etc. There are some people that just do the old-fashion healing treatments by working out the injury through self-imposed 'work' therapy ,,,, like people did in older times before there were options like surgery, etc. Example: start carrying small buckets of water each day for a distance that you can tolerate without too much discomfort and then begin doing larger amounts of water the also begin adding strengthening by lifting the buckets with the affected arm in various ways where it works out the swelling and inflammation. There are many elderly people who have had severe injuries and rehab'd their own self very well by being tough & determined and sharpening the mind to overcome any pain. Main thing is that the less you use the joint, the more stiff and difficult it will become fast. |
| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | o and since he was having trouble sleeping we bought a noodle pillow to leverage. google healing qualitys of comfrey. it took 2 too 3 weeks 2 heal but he shoulda kept putting it on. he was swimming and it started hurting him so he's gonna start applying again. its called broke bone herb. heals tendons and bones. great herb. Quoting: rachel 610501THAT IS A GREAT IDEA, RACHEL. DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT TOPICAL STUFF. A BIG DEAL IS GETTING THE TENDONS INFLAMMATION DOWN AND GETTING THE TISSUE TO HEAL. I'LL PUT CHICKEN FEET ON MY SHOULDER IF IT WILL HELP. " Comfrey leaves are of much value as an external remedy, both in the form of fomentations, for sprains, swellings and bruises, and as a poultice, to severe cuts, to promote suppuration of boils and abscesses, and gangrenous and ill-conditioned ulcers . The whole plant, beaten to a cataplasm and applied hot as a poultice, has always been deemed excellent for soothing pain in any tender, inflamed or suppurating part. It was formerly applied to raw, indolent ulcers as a glutinous astringent. It is useful in any kind of inflammatory swelling. "The reputation of Comfrey as a vulnerary has been considered due partly to the fact of its reducing the swollen parts in the immediate neighbourhood of fractures, causing union to take place with greater facility. Gerard affirmed: 'A salve concocted from the fresh herb will certainly tend to promote the healing of bruised and broken parts.' Surgeons have declared that the powdered root, if dissolved in water to a mucilage, is far from contemptible for bleedings and fractures, whilst it hastens the callus of bones under repair. Its virtues as a vulnerary are now attributed to the Allantoin it contains. According to Macalister (British Medical Journal, Jan. 6, 1912), Allantoin in aqueous solution in strengths of 0.3 per cent has a powerful action in strengthening epithelial formations, and is a valuable remedy not only in external ulceration, but also in ulcers of the stomach and duodenum. Comfrey Root is used as a source of this cell proliferant Allantoin, employed in the dealing of chronic wounds, burns, ulcers, etc., though Allantoin is also made artificially. " [link to www.botanical.com] Last Edited by Andromeda on 05/21/2009 08:40 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 682250 United States05/21/2009 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What worked for me was to do shoulder exercises with weights and dumbbells that didn't hurt my rotator cuff. This would strengthen the surrounding muscles to pick up the slack from not using it because of the injury. It made everything a lot better without surgery. Not 100% but significantly better. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 677524 United States05/21/2009 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | andromeda, it all depends on the severity of your injury if you could post your mri, i could help a bit, no promises, there are partial and complete tears, muscles, tendons, joint capsules, ligament tears, etc, it all depends on exactly what is wrong with your shoulder, stories of what other people have done can actually make you worse, sometimes the best thing you can do is get a second opinion, and then afterwards, schedule a period of time to get the problem explained to you in words you understand. it would be best if you looked up the anatomy, and understood for yourself what is going on |
| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | andromeda, it all depends on the severity of your injury Quoting: Anonymous Coward 677524if you could post your mri, i could help a bit, no promises, there are partial and complete tears, muscles, tendons, joint capsules, ligament tears, etc, it all depends on exactly what is wrong with your shoulder, stories of what other people have done can actually make you worse, sometimes the best thing you can do is get a second opinion, and then afterwards, schedule a period of time to get the problem explained to you in words you understand. it would be best if you looked up the anatomy, and understood for yourself what is going on THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OFFER. I DIDN'T GET A COPY OF THE ULTRASOUND TO TAKE HOME, ALTHOUGH THE MOVIE FILES WERE SAVED. I MIGHT SEE IF I CAN GET THE FILES ON DVD, BUT SOONEST WILL BE TOMORROW. I HAVE ROTATOR CUFF DYSFUNCTION, BICEPS TENDINOSIS AND SCAPULAR DYSKENESIS. ON THE ULTRASOUND THE SPORTS MED GUY SHOWED ME THAT I DID HAVE SOME FLATTENING AND DISTORTION OF THE SUBSCAPULARIS BUT MOSTLY THERE APPEARED TO BE SOME DEGENERATION (DISTORTION AND MICROTEARS) OF THE BICEPS TENDON AND MUSCLE. THE SCAPULAR DYSKENESIS WAS NOT BAD, APPARENTLY AND THE SHOULDER IS MOSTLY STABLE. AFTER GETTING INPUT AND READING TONIGHT, I WILL DEFINITELY GET A SECOND OPINION AND EXAM. READING ROTATOR CUFF PATHOPHYSIOLOGY RIGHT NOW. |
| Andromeda
(OP) User ID: 658410 United States05/21/2009 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What worked for me was to do shoulder exercises with weights and dumbbells that didn't hurt my rotator cuff. This would strengthen the surrounding muscles to pick up the slack from not using it because of the injury. It made everything a lot better without surgery. Not 100% but significantly better. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682250THANKS FOR THAT INFO. THE DOC SAID THAT I CAN'T FLY FISH AND NO OVERHEAD REACHING TYPE EXERCISES. I AM THINKING OF TRYING TO SWIM, ALTHOUGH DOGGIE PADDLING MIGHT FEEL SILLY TO BEGIN WITH AT FIRST. ALSO THINKING ABOUT A LIMITED SIDESTROKE MAYBE. I WANT TO GET IN AN HOUR AND A HALF OF EXERCISE A DAY AT FIRST SO THAT I CAN GET GOOD GROWTH HORMONE LEVELS. I MIGHT DO LITTLE WITH MY SHOULDER WEIGHT TRAINING, EXCEPT FOR THOSE EXTERNAL ROTATION EXERCISES WITH DUMBELLS. |
