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The Biocentric Universe Theory: Life Creates Time, Space, and the Cosmos Itself

 
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EDIT: After Man leaves the Garden and becomes aware of duality, struggles, and hardship, THEN he is supposed to come back to the Garden so he can appreciate it. The lesson was not to become the end all to end all, it was supposed to be like the Buddhists say, come back to square-one and KNOW what it is that makes it square-one.
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Man was not kicked out of the Garden by God...it was Lucifer.

The Real God is still on vacation.

I heard however that he's on his way back. DAMN is He ever pissed!
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I believe the human brain is more powerful than we realize.

just recently I've developed a way to trick my brain into thinking I'm touching something just by looking at it. Maybe my brain is getting the sense of sight mixed up with the sense of touch or something... but when I look at an object I've never touched before I somehow have this ability to feel the texture of it and every little crevice or bump. Then I go and touch the object and it is exactly how I 'imagined' it would feel like.


Yes, but we shouldn't have to "trick" our brains, they are tools for us to use, only we do not know how to fully use them. I have experienced many quirks of the brain, optical illusions are fun. Ever remembered a smell? Then there are the really insane people who literally live inside other worlds inside their heads. Seems like a fairly dangerous thing to be tinkering around with when you don't know how to use it, but how are we supposed to learn to use it without instructions of some sort or explanation, unless we experiment?
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Hey now...I resemble that remark!
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OC, I read the article and I liked it.

I think it's conclusions were bullshit, but it's content was absolutely emperically sound.

Bottom line the universe likely is NOT a product of biocentric awareness. But the universe we are capable of observing IS.

Which is in and of itself a VERY profound point for modern science to come to terms with.

Naturally they won't. It invalidates far too much of what they have invested careers and lifetimes into.

I won't bore ya'll with the deeper explanations, but suffice it to say that we as humans are severely limited in observing and measuring a universe which actually changes when we observe it and when we are confronted with the reality that neither space or time are quantifiable on a non relative scale.

Once you accept those limitations most of our physics and much of our science is erased. Moot.

If humans had any sense about it we would forever resolve to abandon any efforts to figure the universe out and simply focus on maximizing our utilities within it.

Hint: the universe isn't bound by scientific/mathematic laws that we create. Never has been, never will be.

Space doesn't exist, therefore cannot be quantified.

Time doesn't exist therefore cannot be quantified.

Zero is an illusion.

Negative numbers are abstractions not reality.

The principle of equivelents is a hoax.

Math as we know it is helpless and void without these artificial objects of our imagination.
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For the purpose of this thread when I say reality I am talking about the universal reality. Some possibilities about why it appears like we cannot do it at the moment.

*We have lost the ability to do so
*We have forgotten how
*We are being actively stopped from using this ability
*We need a democratic style concensus to change or alter the reality
*Reality is broken
*Something is stopping the changeability of reality

Who wouldn't love to be able to change air into the best meal you've ever had in your life, or sprout wings and fly (I know, so cliche, but sounds fun!). The closest we've come to something like this is in our virtual enviroments like video games. Computer programmers code these things into the games. Are they a really bad emulation and representation of what we can really do?
 Quoting: Xenus

We most certainly create our reality, that should be a given.
How we interpret the data coming in via our senses ,what we believe about it, how we interpret the polarised nature of the physical universe and value fulfilment.. weather we use unconditional love or constant denial and enforced repetitions of guilt/fear based thinking as energy for creating that reality.

When Biocentric Universe line of thinking becomes much more accepted there will be this shift in how we create our reality individually and as a species, for now though , yes it is pretty much been shut out to us because of the overall frequency of the species.. that will change, there will be attempts to pummel society with fear so it can be put off yet again.

Stay with it.
Thanks for this info ..
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Problem is if it truly worked that way the world would be a lot different. There is more to it than meets the senses. If someone was to bring up a child and then the child was taught about the way they could change reality with their thoughts alone and their intent was to, for example, create an infinite wealth for themselves or give them power or something more positive like world peace or unlimited energy, we would see such a drastic change, yet there is no evidence for anything like this.

The whole positive thinking idea has been around for a long time now yet its never created changes in the universal reality, perhaps in personal realities. I'm talking about manipulating the very fabric of our universe, matter. Something is still missing, either we're overlooking it or simply not seeing it. Or maybe it is hidden from us by ourselves or other forces.
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Please try and remember we are all operating under the constraints of our mass consciousness .. you sort of hit on it before..

*We have lost the ability to do so
*We have forgotten how
*We are being actively stopped from using this ability

It isn't any one of those things but more like the 3 all at once. It is due to the extent we have experimented with physicality .. the long period we have been in the darkness of being totally outward oriented ...perception of our shared reality is strictly governed by what we all agree on. As I say often here, it is to do with concentrating as a species always on a fear of something coming from outside ourselves to attack us or to save us that we are powerless and helpless against. Virus or ET .... a marauding dinosaur attacking our camps or a flood that destroys all in it's path, we have had good reason to develop this way, no doubt.

There were many lessons ignored along the way where we could of changed our course long before now to one where when we inevitably learned that the fear based thinking was contaminating our ability to create a more harmonious reality for ourselves. Comes a time in every race's history when they must outgrow the lower forms of vibrational existence. Fear is an easy ,safe .... warm place to be.
It enables the species to not take any responsibility for it's creations of destruction.. the wars and dis-ease.. the randomness of it all .. the insignificance .. the lonesomeness in this hostile universe.

There will be a critical mass of thinking , soon
That will be the consciousness shift.. the polarity shift
the merging of probabilities... It didn't need to be a huge destructive event.. but there is a big chunk of humanity that just doesn't want to let go of the fear.

Namaste


Bottom line:
Before these experiments most physicists believed in an objective, independent universe. They still clung to the assumption that physical states exist in some absolute sense before they are measured.

All of this is now gone for keeps.

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"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

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Problem is if it truly worked that way the world would be a lot different. There is more to it than meets the senses. If someone was to bring up a child and then the child was taught about the way they could change reality with their thoughts alone and their intent was to, for example, create an infinite wealth for themselves or give them power or something more positive like world peace or unlimited energy, we would see such a drastic change, yet there is no evidence for anything like this.

The whole positive thinking idea has been around for a long time now yet its never created changes in the universal reality, perhaps in personal realities. I'm talking about manipulating the very fabric of our universe, matter. Something is still missing, either we're overlooking it or simply not seeing it. Or maybe it is hidden from us by ourselves or other forces.
 Quoting: Xenus


You wont believe it when you see it. You will see it when you believe it. There is nothing more powerful than a thought whose time has come.
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it is not life, it is consciousness
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it is not life, it is consciousness
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Which came first?

Does it even matter?

chicken/egg
life/consciousness
night/day
male/female

hearts
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

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I believe the human brain is more powerful than we realize.

just recently I've developed a way to trick my brain into thinking I'm touching something just by looking at it. Maybe my brain is getting the sense of sight mixed up with the sense of touch or something... but when I look at an object I've never touched before I somehow have this ability to feel the texture of it and every little crevice or bump. Then I go and touch the object and it is exactly how I 'imagined' it would feel like.
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I have heard of others with that gift. I read somewhere recently where scientists are studying a woman who can do something similar. Sorry, can't remember where I read it. Maybe you should contact a local university and find out more about that in exchange for letting them do some research.

That is so fascinating.
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So true. This is a must read for all GLPeoples. \\\

Big Hug hugs to the Mod who posted this news item, my kinda guy/gal.

Also, this explains the twin flame phenomena and why we're coming together. Huge changes in the making giving us hope and focus for the future.

smile_hear

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475125

wow, don't you think you're exaggerating a little??... (;-)


but I totally agree with the following

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If the world is what we make it then we have failed badly, because

this is not a world I would be proud of. Too many people simply do not think for themselves but are happy to let religion, MSM, TV, music, radio, whatever digital communication, to do their thinking for them. They sit back and enjoy their materialistic life, looking to buy that next shiny car or that big screen plasma, only to further their distractions.


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me too bro, me too!!
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Great article, OP!

IMO, the results of the double slit experiment are a total game changer.

If the act of observing impacts the way that fundamental particles behave, then we need to start seriously considering the idea that our observation literally CREATES reality, which means that we are far more powerful than our keepers want us to believe that we are.


 Quoting: Hallorann

it's not US who create reality it's the outcome of an *observation* that depends on how the observation is performed.

BUT (big *but*) any interacting *system* must be considered as an observer in Quantum Physics, an electron, a molecule, a planet, a human, etc. Not only conscious beings (with intelligent self-awareness, as humans are supposed to be)

Conclusion: there are many things that people say out there that does not correspond to what Quantum Physics states. The Schroedinger equation has no variable called "human conciousness"!!
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So true. This is a must read for all GLPeoples. \\\

Big Hug hugs to the Mod who posted this news item, my kinda guy/gal.

Also, this explains the twin flame phenomena and why we're coming together. Huge changes in the making giving us hope and focus for the future.

smile_hear


wow, don't you think you're exaggerating a little??... (;-)


but I totally agree with the following


..........

If the world is what we make it then we have failed badly, because

this is not a world I would be proud of. Too many people simply do not think for themselves but are happy to let religion, MSM, TV, music, radio, whatever digital communication, to do their thinking for them. They sit back and enjoy their materialistic life, looking to buy that next shiny car or that big screen plasma, only to further their distractions.


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me too bro, me too!!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 670824

Exactly!

What better reason to get together collectively and change those limiting parameters to a reality where we all take responsibility for our individual creations and not give away our power to the illusionary idea that it is in God's hands or it is because we are at the whim of a hostile unchanging universe. Physical existence is changing ,right now.... millions of people are feeling it in their bones... all of our cellular consciousness understand the new conditions now coming into play. The consciousness of the species has a connection to this level of our beings also and will inevitably start us getting more connected to a higher framework of understanding. Help is available on many levels we are blind to... fear of malicious energies and the many demons the outer ego creates to prevent us from truly accessing the wonderful abundant energies available to all things in creation... the animals instinctively are in tune with it and on hidden levels and in the dreamstate we are also more aware of it.
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

[link to thesecrettempleofit.blogspot.com]
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The following statement is incorrect
Yet since the 1920s, quantum physics experiments have routinely shown the opposite: Results do depend on whether anyone is observing. This is perhaps most vividly illustrated by the famous two-slit experiment.
When someone watches a subatomic particle
or a bit of light pass through the slits, the particle behaves like a bullet, passing through one hole or the other. But
if no one observes the particle,
it exhibits the behavior of a wave that can inhabit all possibilities—including somehow passing through both holes at the same time.

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[link to discovermagazine.com]
 Quoting: Xenus

The correct statements would be something like,

... When some system interacts with a subatomic particle and blocks one of the slits, the particle behaves like a bullet, passing through one hole or the other.

But if there are no external interactions and both slits are simultaneously available for the subatomic particle, it exhibits the behavior of a wave that can inhabit all possibilities—including somehow passing through both holes at the same time...

The words "anyone" and "someone" are misleading in the original phrases, because they indicate the necessity of a "human" to observe the quantum behavior, which is obviously false!
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The following statement is incorrect

Yet since the 1920s, quantum physics experiments have routinely shown the opposite: Results do depend on whether anyone is observing. This is perhaps most vividly illustrated by the famous two-slit experiment.
When someone watches a subatomic particle
or a bit of light pass through the slits, the particle behaves like a bullet, passing through one hole or the other. But
if no one observes the particle,
it exhibits the behavior of a wave that can inhabit all possibilities—including somehow passing through both holes at the same time.

.........................
[link to discovermagazine.com]

The correct statements would be something like,

... When some system interacts with a subatomic particle and blocks one of the slits, the particle behaves like a bullet, passing through one hole or the other.

But if there are no external interactions and both slits are simultaneously available for the subatomic particle, it exhibits the behavior of a wave that can inhabit all possibilities—including somehow passing through both holes at the same time...

The words "anyone" and "someone" are misleading in the original phrases, because they indicate the necessity of a "human" to observe the quantum behaviour, which is obviously false!
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 Quoting: angelpbj 670824

What exactly brings you to that conclusion?
The experiment is an example of proof that a "human" is needed to observe the quantum behaviour of light, etc.
to move in it's methodical ,predictable and never changing way. Not viewed it becomes malleable, exhibiting all possibilities...

Where exactly is the falsehood?
"anyone" and "someone"?
relevant to eye of the observer?

Study more physics..

Thanks.
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

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come on..
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

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come on..
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Peace.

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"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

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Every choice you make has a consequence-action reaction. This is what shapes your reality. Like branches on a tree each choice will lead you down a different path. If you could see the end results of the choices you are making you would then see how you yourself are shaping your own reality.

Everything that happens to you, every person you meet is what you have brought forth through your choices. There is no such thing as coincidences. These are things that you have created to help you learn or to give you proof or confirmation etc, but we just pass these things off. Never seeing the connections to what we are creating. Once you awaken to how subtle and natural this reality works, you will see how beautifully simple it is. Everyone of us has the capacity to understand it, but we are constantly baffled by scientific explanations and miss the true essence of what is true.
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You can only affect your own reality, for we are all lone beings, who come here alone and leave alone, no one can live your life for you. You create the things that you want to learn and grow or you become stagnant still stuck in old cycles, because you choose not to learn. Problems are only puzzles that are put in your path to enable you to grow, a positive thinker will look for the answer, a negative one will see no way out. Through the choices you make will determine the stage on which you play.

Society shapes most people's thoughts through the agendas it wants you to play, mainly keeping you in fear and stuck where you are, yet you have the key to open the cage and free yourself, don't wait for someone else to do it for you.

Create the reality you want to live, but don't expect to get everything you want, because sometimes what you want is not what you need. Take responsibility for yourself in everything you do and be true and honest to yourself in the choices you make and live in balance, this in turn will create a better tomorrow
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So true. This is a must read for all GLPeoples. \\\

Big Hug hugs to the Mod who posted this news item, my kinda guy/gal.

Also, this explains the twin flame phenomena and why we're coming together. Huge changes in the making giving us hope and focus for the future.

smile_hear


wow, don't you think you're exaggerating a little??... (;-)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 670824


In 1997 University of Geneva physicist Nicolas Gisin sent two entangled photons zooming along optical fibers until they were seven miles apart. One photon then hit a two-way mirror where it had a choice: either bounce off or go through. Detectors recorded what it randomly did. But whatever action it took, its entangled twin always performed the complementary action. The communication between the two happened at least 10,000 times faster than the speed of light. It seems that quantum news travels instantaneously, limited by no external constraints—not even the speed of light. Since then, other researchers have duplicated and refined Gisin’s work. Today no one questions the immediate nature of this connectedness between bits of light or matter, or even entire clusters of atoms.


No, I don't think it is too far of a stretch when you consider we are vibrations, bits of light. If the one split into two to form this duality we live in and to complete this cycle the two must join again as one. Nothing is stronger than Love and Love is what makes us tick.




hf
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I have a friend with whom I had a great discussion with yesterday, she practices magik and witchcraft. It turns out that universal reality creation and witchcraft are really the same thing. She explained that with more people you lose your doubt and therefore have a greater chance to succeed, it does not really make the effect any stronger. But they are still bound by laws and contraints that pagans have constructed over the years.

As for who the observer is, does it only apply to humans or any living animal with a consciousness? Could that be a way to test for consciousness? See if any other animals who observe change the way particles behave. It is the consciousness that is our selves, not our bodies. And at what point do the particles change their behaviour I wonder, when the light bounces off the and hits our receptors or when our minds and brain process the information. It would make a big difference knowing which. It would show whether it is a physical process or not.

Science only in the past couple of years has seriously started to study consciousness, simply because it's not an easy thing to do and the ramifications of it all. But anyone with a mind can and who can think for themselves can do the same thing, nothing is stopping us from making our own discoveries, I have made many on my own and with the contributions of people on these forums and observational data from the scientific community. Why leave it to the "experts" who fight amongst themselves to see who is more right than the other? Those who fight over grants and popularity.

What if 2012 is the last chance we have to figure it out and the fractal nature of the universal reality takes over and we are doomed to repeat/recycle? Instead of sitting around and waiting to be saved by something that will most likely NEVER HAPPEN. It is a nice trick/deceit and has fooled many people. It seems like almost everyone wants to be saved but the problem is the only people who can do that are our selves.
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Every choice you make has a consequence-action reaction. This is what shapes your reality. Like branches on a tree each choice will lead you down a different path. If you could see the end results of the choices you are making you would then see how you yourself are shaping your own reality.

Everything that happens to you, every person you meet is what you have brought forth through your choices. There is no such thing as coincidences. These are things that you have created to help you learn or to give you proof or confirmation etc, but we just pass these things off. Never seeing the connections to what we are creating. Once you awaken to how subtle and natural this reality works, you will see how beautifully simple it is. Everyone of us has the capacity to understand it, but we are constantly baffled by scientific explanations and miss the true essence of what is true.
,
You can only affect your own reality, for we are all lone beings, who come here alone and leave alone, no one can live your life for you. You create the things that you want to learn and grow or you become stagnant still stuck in old cycles, because you choose not to learn. Problems are only puzzles that are put in your path to enable you to grow, a positive thinker will look for the answer, a negative one will see no way out. Through the choices you make will determine the stage on which you play.

Society shapes most people's thoughts through the agendas it wants you to play, mainly keeping you in fear and stuck where you are, yet you have the key to open the cage and free yourself, don't wait for someone else to do it for you.

Create the reality you want to live, but don't expect to get everything you want, because sometimes what you want is not what you need. Take responsibility for yourself in everything you do and be true and honest to yourself in the choices you make and live in balance, this in turn will create a better tomorrow
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 671416

hearts
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

[link to thesecrettempleofit.blogspot.com]
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the wave particle duality experiments

is light a wave or a particle?

it seems that light behaves accordingly to the scientist's expectations of whether light is a wave or a particle

how much more matter behaves according to our expectations?

perhaps this was the secret to Tesla's experiments, his expectations produced results that others are unable to duplicate because of lack of expectation in the results

in other words, being the observer, and neutral, then neutral results are produced.
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Neutrality provides protection from the frequency flux.
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For the purpose of this thread when I say reality I am talking about the universal reality. Some possibilities about why it appears like we cannot do it at the moment.

*We have lost the ability to do so
*We have forgotten how
*We are being actively stopped from using this ability
*We need a democratic style concensus to change or alter the reality
*Reality is broken

*Something is stopping the changeability of reality -- yes !
We do not understand the fundamental generative nature of human sexuality and its tremendous power, our sexuality has been extremely degraded for so long we really have no idea of what it is capable of and there are very strong motivations for those who misuse our sexual energies for their own purposes
to keep us in a degraded condition. While making us think that it is 'sexual enlightenment' or 'sexual freedom' or whatever. Our species was sexually abused by its parental races and that has kept us from maturing sexually.
The parental races are terrificly afraid of our latent sexual power and prefer keeping us in bondage to them.
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Indeed, just like the yinyang symbol which shows that there is light in darkness and darkness in light, there is also the space between the two, which is neutrality. And like in particles some are positive (positrons), some are negative (electrons) and some are neutral (neutrons). It seems when people align themselves with one side the world provides balance and aligns someone else with the other extreme. Extremes are always bad, no matter what side you align with, you blind yourself with light or blind yourself with darkness. I know many people would disagree because of the nature of their beliefs but this is how it seems to be from my years of observations. Conflict only arises with you align yourself with a side. I have been labelled as evil for my way of thinking, even though I do not align myself with either side.
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For the purpose of this thread when I say reality I am talking about the universal reality. Some possibilities about why it appears like we cannot do it at the moment.

*Something is stopping the changeability of reality -- yes !
We do not understand the fundamental generative nature of human sexuality and its tremendous power, our sexuality has been extremely degraded for so long we really have no idea of what it is capable of and there are very strong motivations for those who misuse our sexual energies for their own purposes
to keep us in a degraded condition. While making us think that it is 'sexual enlightenment' or 'sexual freedom' or whatever. Our species was sexually abused by its parental races and that has kept us from maturing sexually.
The parental races are terrificly afraid of our latent sexual power and prefer keeping us in bondage to them.
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Can you elaborate more on that? The oversexualization of our world is really strange, how in the olden days everything was taboo and now teens are the complete opposite and sharing all kidns of images with one another over mobile phones and such. Not to mention sex in advertising.
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Please read the whole article, I know it is a lot but please take the time and effort to do so. It is all important however I have bolded some parts which I have been trying to get across to people in other threads. Maybe people will realise now also that time itself as a force in our universe does not exist, it is merely a measurement of motion/change created by humans.

The farther we peer into space, the more we realize that the nature of the universe cannot be understood fully by inspecting spiral galaxies or watching distant supernovas. It lies deeper. It involves our very selves.

This insight snapped into focus one day while one of us (Lanza) was walking through the woods. Looking up, he saw a huge golden orb web spider tethered to the overhead boughs. There the creature sat on a single thread, reaching out across its web to detect the vibrations of a trapped insect struggling to escape. The spider surveyed its universe, but everything beyond that gossamer pinwheel was incomprehensible. The human observer seemed as far-off to the spider as telescopic objects seem to us. Yet there was something kindred: We humans, too, lie at the heart of a great web of space and time whose threads are connected according to laws that dwell in our minds.

Is the web possible without the spider? Are space and time physical objects that would continue to exist even if living creatures were removed from the scene?

Figuring out the nature of the real world has obsessed scientists and philosophers for millennia. Three hundred years ago, the Irish empiricist George Berkeley contributed a particularly prescient observation: The only thing we can perceive are our perceptions. In other words, consciousness is the matrix upon which the cosmos is apprehended. Color, sound, temperature, and the like exist only as perceptions in our head, not as absolute essences. In the broadest sense, we cannot be sure of an outside universe at all.

For centuries, scientists regarded Berkeley’s argument as a philosophical sideshow and continued to build physical models based on the assumption of a separate universe “out there” into which we have each individually arrived. These models presume the existence of one essential reality that prevails with us or without us. Yet since the 1920s, quantum physics experiments have routinely shown the opposite: Results do depend on whether anyone is observing. This is perhaps most vividly illustrated by the famous two-slit experiment. When someone watches a subatomic particle or a bit of light pass through the slits, the particle behaves like a bullet, passing through one hole or the other. But if no one observes the particle, it exhibits the behavior of a wave that can inhabit all possibilities—including somehow passing through both holes at the same time.

Some of the greatest physicists have described these results as so confounding they are impossible to comprehend fully, beyond the reach of metaphor, visualization, and language itself. But there is another interpretation that makes them sensible. Instead of assuming a reality that predates life and even creates it, we propose a biocentric picture of reality. From this point of view, life—particularly consciousness—creates the universe, and the universe could not exist without us.

MESSING WITH THE LIGHT
Quantum mechanics is the physicist’s most accurate model for describing the world of the atom. But it also makes some of the most persuasive arguments that conscious perception is integral to the workings of the universe. Quantum theory tells us that an unobserved small object (for instance, an electron or a photon—a particle of light) exists only in a blurry, unpredictable state, with no well-defined location or motion until the moment it is observed. This is Werner Heisenberg’s famous uncertainty principle. Physicists describe the phantom, not-yet-manifest condition as a wave function, a mathematical expression used to find the probability that a particle will appear in any given place. When a property of an electron suddenly switches from possibility to reality, some physicists say its wave function has collapsed.

What accomplishes this collapse? Messing with it. Hitting it with a bit of light in order to take its picture. Just looking at it does the job. Experiments suggest that mere knowledge in the experimenter’s mind is sufficient to collapse a wave function and convert possibility to reality. When particles are created as a pair—for instance, two electrons in a single atom that move or spin together—physicists call them entangled. Due to their intimate connection, entangled particles share a wave function. When we measure one particle and thus collapse its wave function, the other particle’s wave function instantaneously collapses too. If one photon is observed to have a vertical polarization (its waves all moving in one plane), the act of observation causes the other to instantly go from being an indefinite probability wave to an actual photon with the opposite, horizontal polarity—even if the two photons have since moved far from each other.

In 1997 University of Geneva physicist Nicolas Gisin sent two entangled photons zooming along optical fibers until they were seven miles apart. One photon then hit a two-way mirror where it had a choice: either bounce off or go through. Detectors recorded what it randomly did. But whatever action it took, its entangled twin always performed the complementary action. The communication between the two happened at least 10,000 times faster than the speed of light. It seems that quantum news travels instantaneously, limited by no external constraints—not even the speed of light. Since then, other researchers have duplicated and refined Gisin’s work. Today no one questions the immediate nature of this connectedness between bits of light or matter, or even entire clusters of atoms.

Before these experiments most physicists believed in an objective, independent universe. They still clung to the assumption that physical states exist in some absolute sense before they are measured.

All of this is now gone for keeps.


WRESTLING WITH GOLDILOCKS
The strangeness of quantum reality is far from the only argument against the old model of reality. There is also the matter of the fine-tuning of the cosmos. Many fundamental traits, forces, and physical constants—like the charge of the electron or the strength of gravity—make it appear as if everything about the physical state of the universe were tailor-made for life. Some researchers call this revelation the Goldilocks principle, because the cosmos is not “too this” or “too that” but rather “just right” for life.
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At the moment there are only four explanations for this mystery. The first two give us little to work with from a scientific perspective. One is simply to argue for incredible coincidence. Another is to say, “God did it,” which explains nothing even if it is true.

The third explanation invokes a concept called the anthropic principle,? first articulated by Cambridge astrophysicist Brandon Carter in 1973. This principle holds that we must find the right conditions for life in our universe, because if such life did not exist, we would not be here to find those conditions. Some cosmologists have tried to wed the anthropic principle with the recent theories that suggest our universe is just one of a vast multitude of universes, each with its own physical laws. Through sheer numbers, then, it would not be surprising that one of these universes would have the right qualities for life. But so far there is no direct evidence whatsoever for other universes.

The final option is biocentrism, which holds that the universe is created by life and not the other way around. This is an explanation for and extension of the participatory anthropic principle described by the physicist John Wheeler, a disciple of Einstein’s who coined the terms wormhole and black hole.

SEEKING SPACE AND TIME
Even the most fundamental elements of physical reality, space and time, strongly support a biocentric basis for the cosmos.

According to biocentrism, time does not exist independently of the life that notices it. The reality of time has long been questioned by an odd alliance of philosophers and physicists. The former argue that the past exists only as ideas in the mind, which themselves are neuroelectrical events occurring strictly in the present moment. Physicists, for their part, note that all of their working models, from Isaac Newton’s laws through quantum mechanics, do not actually describe the nature of time. The real point is that no actual entity of time is needed, nor does it play a role in any of their equations. When they speak of time, they inevitably describe it in terms of change. But change is not the same thing as time.

To measure anything’s position precisely, at any given instant, is to lock in on one static frame of its motion, as in the frame of a film. Conversely, as soon as you observe a movement, you cannot isolate a frame, because motion is the summation of many frames. Sharpness in one parameter induces blurriness in the other. Imagine that you are watching a film of an archery tournament. An archer shoots and the arrow flies. The camera follows the arrow’s trajectory from the archer’s bow toward the target. Suddenly the projector stops on a single frame of a stilled arrow. You stare at the image of an arrow in midflight. The pause in the film enables you to know the position of the arrow with great accuracy, but you have lost all information about its momentum. In that frame it is going nowhere; its path and velocity are no longer known. Such fuzziness brings us back to Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, which describes how measuring the location of a subatomic particle inherently blurs its momentum and vice versa.

All of this makes perfect sense from a biocentric perspective. Everything we perceive is actively and repeatedly being reconstructed inside our heads in an organized whirl of information. Time in this sense can be defined as the summation of spatial states occurring inside the mind. So what is real? If the next mental image is different from the last, then it is different, period. We can award that change with the word time, but that does not mean there is an actual invisible matrix in which changes occur. That is just our own way of making sense of things. We watch our loved ones age and die and assume that an external entity called time is responsible for the crime.

There is a peculiar intangibility to space, as well. We cannot pick it up and bring it to the laboratory. Like time, space is neither physical nor fundamentally real in our view. Rather, it is a mode of interpretation and understanding. It is part of an animal’s mental software that molds sensations into multidimensional objects.

Most of us still think like Newton, regarding space as sort of a vast container that has no walls. But our notion of space is false. Shall we count the ways? 1. Distances between objects mutate depending on conditions like gravity and velocity, as described by Einstein’s relativity, so that there is no absolute distance between anything and anything else. 2. Empty space, as described by quantum mechanics, is in fact not empty but full of potential particles and fields. 3. Quantum theory even casts doubt on the notion that distant objects are truly separated, since entangled particles can act in unison even if separated by the width of a galaxy.

UNLOCKING THE CAGE
In daily life, space and time are harmless illusions. A problem arises only because, by treating these as fundamental and independent things, science picks a completely wrong starting point for investigations into the nature of reality. Most researchers still believe they can build from one side of nature, the physical, without the other side, the living. By inclination and training these scientists are obsessed with mathematical descriptions of the world. If only, after leaving work, they would look out with equal seriousness over a pond and watch the schools of minnows rise to the surface. The fish, the ducks, and the cormorants, paddling out beyond the pads and the cattails, are all part of the greater answer.

Recent quantum studies help illustrate what a new biocentric science would look like. Just months? ago, Nicolas Gisin announced a new twist on his entanglement experiment; in this case, he thinks the results could be visible to the naked eye. At the University of Vienna, Anton Zeilinger’s work with huge molecules called buckyballs pushes quantum reality closer to the macroscopic world. In an exciting extension of this work—proposed by Roger Penrose, the renowned Oxford physicist—not just light but a small mirror that reflects it becomes part of an entangled quantum system, one that is billions of times larger than a buckyball. If the proposed experiment ends up confirming Penrose’s idea, it would also confirm that quantum effects apply to human-scale objects.

Biocentrism should unlock the cages in which Western science has unwittingly confined itself. Allowing the observer into the equation should open new approaches to understanding cognition, from unraveling the nature of consciousness to developing thinking machines that experience the world the same way we do. Biocentrism should also provide stronger bases for solving problems associated with quantum physics and the Big Bang. Accepting space and time as forms of animal sense perception (that is, as biological), rather than as external physical objects, offers a new way of understanding everything from the microworld (for instance, the reason for strange results in the two-slit experiment) to the forces, constants, and laws that shape the universe. At a minimum, it should help halt such dead-end efforts as string theory.

Above all, biocentrism offers a more promising way to bring together all of physics, as scientists have been trying to do since Einstein’s unsuccessful unified field theories of eight decades ago. Until we recognize the essential role of biology, our attempts to truly unify the universe will remain a train to nowhere.
[link to discovermagazine.com]
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If a tree falls in the forest and nothing is there to hear it, does it make a sound? No.
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I've often wondered about that metaphor.

What does it mean, then, if a tape recorder were placed near the tree before it fell? Would it record a sound?
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A tape recorder is our observation, so it would. It is a machine built by humans to observe for us. This raises an interesting question, what can be an observer? Does it require a consciousness or just the expectation to hear/see/smell/feel/taste something enough to create the possible potential?

I was just chatting with a friend and came up with an idea. The potential (like voltage) is there always but our expectations of something being there or something happening is what creates the final outcome. For example, we make a microscope to see things smaller than we can now, expecting something to be there, but we do not know what is there until we observe it with the microscope.
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A tape recorder is our observation, so it would. It is a machine built by humans to observe for us. This raises an interesting question, what can be an observer? Does it require a consciousness or just the expectation to hear/see/smell/feel/taste something enough to create the possible potential?

I was just chatting with a friend and came up with an idea. The potential (like voltage) is there always but our expectations of something being there or something happening is what creates the final outcome. For example, we make a microscope to see things smaller than we can now, expecting something to be there, but we do not know what is there until we observe it with the microscope.
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I was trying to find an analogy that didn't require human intervention. That seems to be the crux of the argument. To observe suggests intent and a tape recorder clearly falls into that category.

What about fossil records? A fossil can be said to be a recording implement. And it didn't require human intervention.
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What about fossil records? A fossil can be said to be a recording implement. And it didn't require human intervention.
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Good question.

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