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Massachusetts Senate Passes "Pandemic Bill" - Implications of Martial Law

 
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Massachusetts Senate Passes "Pandemic Bill" - Implications of Martial Law
Public health representatives from seven towns in the Merrimack Valley sat down in Tewksbury, MA for a regular monthly meeting planned long before last week's pandemic scare began. ... Frank Singleton, Lowell's Health Director says its no longer a drill, they are preparing for the real thing.

... The legislation gives the MA Public Health Commissioner the discretion to respond to an outbreak like the kind going on in Mexico - to close or evacuate buildings, enter private property, isolate or quarantine people, and to get and distribute meds and vaccines.

A registry of MA volunteers would be created and would be activated in case of emergency. ... If people do not follow the emergency declaration, such as a quarantine order, they could face up to 30 days in prison, and a fine of up to $1000 a day.
[link to www.necn.com]

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Seems to me that this is fairly significant news.
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You have got to be kidding.

Come on!
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You have got to be kidding.

Come on!
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The Supreme Court has acknowledged that the concept of "Freedom of Movement" is closely related to the Constitutionally protected rights to Freedom of Association and Freedom of Expression, and thus has ruled in favor of Freedom of Movement as an intended right. While it could be argued that the Federal government has already criminally "nullified" Freedom of Movement, Association and Expression with Free Speech Zones, mandatory TSA checks at transportation hubs (airports, etc) - it still must be noted that forcefully restricting an individuals movement is by definition "arrest."

This suggests the revocation of Constitutionally guaranteed rights, or in other words, a discontinuation of civil law. The suspension of Constitutional Law, officially or unofficially, doesn't necessitate military rule, so isn't necessarily Martial Law per sey, sure. But I believe you understand what's being implied.
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But besides that, any sort of "pandemic bill" being passed is quite notable in itself.
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in Time magazine they were programming us that if we don't go along with marital law then we will be fined up to 250,000 dollars if we didn't obey the puppets this shit is getting out of fucking hand now.
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Good catch!
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I AM OFFICIALLY TREATING THIS LIKE THE REAL THING.

More to do...

Got to create maps and shit. Good luck guys!
"I just woke up here one day."
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Public health representatives from seven towns in the Merrimack Valley sat down in Tewksbury, MA for a regular monthly meeting planned long before last week's pandemic scare began. ... Frank Singleton, Lowell's Health Director says its no longer a drill, they are preparing for the real thing.

... The legislation gives the MA Public Health Commissioner the discretion to respond to an outbreak like the kind going on in Mexico - to close or evacuate buildings, enter private property, isolate or quarantine people, and to get and distribute meds and vaccines.

A registry of MA volunteers would be created and would be activated in case of emergency. ... If people do not follow the emergency declaration, such as a quarantine order, they could face up to 30 days in prison, and a fine of up to $1000 a day.
[link to www.necn.com]
 Quoting: Boomer

Hell. What do those dumbasses know. They keep voting in Kennedy. They will fold like sheep and walk p the ramp into the pahked box cahr....
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holy crap now thats evidence
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THIS NO WAY CONFORMS TO EXISTING CHAINS OF COMMAND IN A CIVIL EMERGENCY...IN WHICH I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN...IN A FIRE, THE FIRE CHIEF HAS COMMAND, AND CIVIL POLICE, CITY/COUNTY/STATE RESOURCES ARE AT HIS COMMAND ON THE FIRE GROUND...IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE MAYOR, COUNTY COMMISSINOR SHOW UP, THEY ANSWER ONLY TO THE CHIEF AND WILL FOLLOW HIS ORDERS TO MITGATE AND PROVIDE RESOURCES TO RESOLVE THE CRISIS...IN OTHER WORDS ...LET THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON RESOLVE THE SITUATION.
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THIS NO WAY CONFORMS TO EXISTING CHAINS OF COMMAND IN A CIVIL EMERGENCY...IN WHICH I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN..
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Yet you can't find the fucking caps lock....
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THIS NO WAY CONFORMS TO EXISTING CHAINS OF COMMAND IN A CIVIL EMERGENCY...IN WHICH I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN..


Yet you can't find the fucking caps lock....
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Thanks! I needed a good laugh today! Funny shit :D
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5 stars
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Fuck! A measily fine? If your out when you shouldnt be, spreading a disease. You should be shot!
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[link to news.bostonherald.com]

"Mass. Senate approves pandemic flu bill with quarantine powers --New Senate version allows public health commissioner to close or evacuate buildings, enter private property for investigations, and quarantine individuals --Measure requires registry for volunteers to be activated in emergency 28 Apr 2009 The Massachusetts Senate has unanimously passed a pandemic flu preparation bill that has languished in the Legislature before the recent swine flu outbreak. The 36-0 vote today sends the measure to the House. The new Senate version would allow the public health commissioner -- in a public health emergency -- to close or evacuate buildings, enter private property for investigations, and quarantine individuals. The measure also requires a registry for volunteers that would be activated in an emergency and establishes fines of up to $1,000 for not complying with local public health orders."
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This is not good.

And BTW,
I have NEVAH voted for Kennedy.
Or Bahney Frank.
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in Time magazine they were programming us that if we don't go along with marital law then we will be fined up to 250,000 dollars if we didn't obey the puppets this shit is getting out of fucking hand now.
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I agree, I don't know anyone who really beleives the government anymore. The government is getting way out of hand with this flu and possible martial law.
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Fuck! A measily fine? If your out when you shouldnt be, spreading a disease. You should be shot!
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You do realize this so-called swine flu isn't even dangerous realistically, yes? It causes no more deaths than any other common flu and only rarely is terribly bad. You might as well shoot everyone who goes to work or grocery shopping while sick.

Besides, they weren't talking about just a fine. They threatened imprisonment too, and they likely didn't cite every option they were willing to use under such circumstances. When dealing with the public, you sugar coat everything.

But yeah good job supporting fascism and forgoing the use of reason.
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I agree, I don't know anyone who really beleives the government anymore. The government is getting way out of hand with this flu and possible martial law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 668546

Like I've pointed out several times on these forums, this same situation occurred with the 1976 "swine flu." Made a few people sick, killed one American, and the government called it a pandemic. They fear mongered as best they knew how, distributed a vaccine with a mandate to administer it to every man, woman and child in America - and it turned out the swine flu wasn't even a big deal.

In fact, the vaccine itself was far more dangerous than the ailment it was supposed to protect against. Had such side effects as paralysis and death, and who knows what else it caused which nobody ever realized.

Now of course we hear that the gov may have a vaccine for this latest installment of swine flu hysteria. Ironically though, it's stated that unless this swine flu mutates significantly it won't be a threat (obvious) - that's where all this "second wave" talk comes from. Yet any vaccine would only be useful for the present incarnation. You'd have to know what it'll become in order to protect against it, and as far as I know we haven't traveled to the future to make that determination. So you tell me where the logic is there.

At least Alex Jones is listening.
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The only good thing that would come out of a pandemic would be that we could ge rid of some of the fucktards who run MA goverment and those that pick their asses as school teachers and administrators.
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It'll be nice to get a few Mc's off the state dole.
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They're preparing the public for mass vaccination too. I've noticed various news outlets interviewing doctors, where these doctors mention the 1976 ordeal. But these doctors all seem intent on rewriting history, claiming the mass inoculation is why it didn't become some scary black plague. That's even though it was commonly realized and accepted that the reality is the swine flu was never dangerous, and either the government was incompetant in its rationalization or was hoaxing. But the conclusion that the virus wasn't a danger was definitive, backed by scientific study shortly after the incident.

Swine Flu Scare 2 is coming from the same media and government which tried to claim that Bird Flu and SARS would be the end of us all, even though neither were ever a threat. And in all those cases as well as this one, it's blatantly obvious. But don't let that keep you from running from every mosquito you see, fearing the horribly frightening West Nile virus.

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Fuck! A measily fine? If your out when you shouldnt be, spreading a disease. You should be shot!
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Well this occurred regularly, there would be no more human race, problem solved except for the last person to survive.
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putin

"OMG, what a fucking obsession with martial law ,sick !!"
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we all know what needs to be done
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Thas OK in Coloraydough we have the make my day law.....if some sick motherfucker comes sklinkin at me I will blow his ass away long before The ol' Gov can can marshall law him LOL
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Yep another case of create a disaster to further extend oppression and divert the populations attention from something. Fair dinkum are the serious they just keep on using the same strategy ie 9/11





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