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User ID: 644840 United States 03/31/2009 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just found this on Drudge... Wasayo Quoting: WasayoReport: Chinese Develop Special "Kill Weapon" to Destroy U.S. Aircraft Carriers Advanced missile poses substantial new threat for U.S. Navy U. S. Naval Institute March 31, 2009 With tensions already rising due to the Chinese navy becoming more aggressive in asserting its territorial claims in the South China Sea, the U.S. Navy seems to have yet another reason to be deeply concerned. After years of conjecture, details have begun to emerge of a "kill weapon" developed by the Chinese to target and destroy U.S. aircraft carriers. First posted on a Chinese blog viewed as credible by military analysts and then translated by the naval affairs blog Information Dissemination, a recent report provides a description of an anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) that can strike carriers and other U.S. vessels at a range of 2000km. The range of the modified Dong Feng 21 missile is significant in that it covers the areas that are likely hot zones for future confrontations between U.S. and Chinese surface forces. The size of the missile enables it to carry a warhead big enough to inflict significant damage on a large vessel, providing the Chinese the capability of destroying a U.S. supercarrier in one strike. Because the missile employs a complex guidance system, low radar signature and a maneuverability that makes its flight path unpredictable, the odds that it can evade tracking systems to reach its target are increased. It is estimated that the missile can travel at mach 10 and reach its maximum range of 2000km in less than 12 minutes. Supporting the missile is a network of satellites, radar and unmanned aerial vehicles that can locate U.S. ships and then guide the weapon, enabling it to hit moving targets. The ASBM is said to be a modified DF-21. While the ASBM has been a topic of discussion within national defense circles for quite some time, the fact that information is now coming from Chinese sources indicates that the weapon system is operational. The Chinese rarely mention weapons projects unless they are well beyond the test stages. If operational as is believed, the system marks the first time a ballistic missile has been successfully developed to attack vessels at sea. Ships currently have no defense against a ballistic missile attack. Along with the Chinese naval build-up, U.S. Navy officials appear to view the development of the anti-ship ballistic missile as a tangible threat. After spending the last decade placing an emphasis on building a fleet that could operate in shallow waters near coastlines, the U.S. Navy seems to have quickly changed its strategy over the past several months to focus on improving the capabilities of its deep sea fleet and developing anti-ballistic defenses. As analyst Raymond Pritchett notes in a post on the U.S. Naval Institute blog: "The Navy's reaction is telling, because it essentially equals a radical change in direction based on information that has created a panic inside the bubble. For a major military service to panic due to a new weapon system, clearly a mission kill weapon system, either suggests the threat is legitimate or the leadership of the Navy is legitimately unqualified. There really aren't many gray spaces in evaluating the reaction by the Navy…the data tends to support the legitimacy of the threat." In recent years, China has been expanding its navy to presumably better exert itself in disputed maritime regions. A recent show of strength in early March led to a confrontation with an unarmed U.S. ship in international waters. [link to www.usni.org (secure)] For many years the Navy has had in their fleets anti-ballistic missile destroyers How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
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(OP) User ID: 647007 Netherlands 03/31/2009 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent read opie! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1978Thanx again! it's confirmation of what many have long suspected ~ aircraft carriers are obsolete. thank you to GLP for pinning this. Wasayo "Every word of God is pure: He is a shield unto them that put their trust in Him." Prov. 30:5 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 483596 United States 03/31/2009 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just found this on Drudge... Wasayo Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyReport: Chinese Develop Special "Kill Weapon" to Destroy U.S. Aircraft Carriers Advanced missile poses substantial new threat for U.S. Navy U. S. Naval Institute March 31, 2009 With tensions already rising due to the Chinese navy becoming more aggressive in asserting its territorial claims in the South China Sea, the U.S. Navy seems to have yet another reason to be deeply concerned. After years of conjecture, details have begun to emerge of a "kill weapon" developed by the Chinese to target and destroy U.S. aircraft carriers. First posted on a Chinese blog viewed as credible by military analysts and then translated by the naval affairs blog Information Dissemination, a recent report provides a description of an anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) that can strike carriers and other U.S. vessels at a range of 2000km. The range of the modified Dong Feng 21 missile is significant in that it covers the areas that are likely hot zones for future confrontations between U.S. and Chinese surface forces. The size of the missile enables it to carry a warhead big enough to inflict significant damage on a large vessel, providing the Chinese the capability of destroying a U.S. supercarrier in one strike. Because the missile employs a complex guidance system, low radar signature and a maneuverability that makes its flight path unpredictable, the odds that it can evade tracking systems to reach its target are increased. It is estimated that the missile can travel at mach 10 and reach its maximum range of 2000km in less than 12 minutes. Supporting the missile is a network of satellites, radar and unmanned aerial vehicles that can locate U.S. ships and then guide the weapon, enabling it to hit moving targets. The ASBM is said to be a modified DF-21. While the ASBM has been a topic of discussion within national defense circles for quite some time, the fact that information is now coming from Chinese sources indicates that the weapon system is operational. The Chinese rarely mention weapons projects unless they are well beyond the test stages. If operational as is believed, the system marks the first time a ballistic missile has been successfully developed to attack vessels at sea. Ships currently have no defense against a ballistic missile attack. Along with the Chinese naval build-up, U.S. Navy officials appear to view the development of the anti-ship ballistic missile as a tangible threat. After spending the last decade placing an emphasis on building a fleet that could operate in shallow waters near coastlines, the U.S. Navy seems to have quickly changed its strategy over the past several months to focus on improving the capabilities of its deep sea fleet and developing anti-ballistic defenses. As analyst Raymond Pritchett notes in a post on the U.S. Naval Institute blog: "The Navy's reaction is telling, because it essentially equals a radical change in direction based on information that has created a panic inside the bubble. For a major military service to panic due to a new weapon system, clearly a mission kill weapon system, either suggests the threat is legitimate or the leadership of the Navy is legitimately unqualified. There really aren't many gray spaces in evaluating the reaction by the Navy…the data tends to support the legitimacy of the threat." In recent years, China has been expanding its navy to presumably better exert itself in disputed maritime regions. A recent show of strength in early March led to a confrontation with an unarmed U.S. ship in international waters. [link to www.usni.org (secure)] For many years the Navy has had in their fleets anti-ballistic missile destroyers supposedly russian missile technology can defeat our aegis phalanx systems. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 488240 United States 03/31/2009 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | supposedly russian missile technology can defeat our aegis phalanx systems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483596Pretty sure the Sea Sparrow missile was designed to handle this gap in defenses. Not sure how it will handle this new kill weapon... |
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In the Know User ID: 647048 United States 03/31/2009 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The missle will have to take a near verticle path to target near the end of its flight. This near verticle path lends itself to easy destruction due to it's limited manuverability. It is stealthy head on, but this is where the data liks between ships and satellites is important. Don't worry, this threat has been countered and redundency built in. Once fired the missle launcher will be promply dispatched. Active infrared Sat targeting will track this threat and elimination within 20 min. of launch. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 493538 United States 03/31/2009 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Active infrared Sat targeting will track this threat and elimination within 20 min. of launch. Quoting: In the Know 647048But the article says, "the missile can travel at mach 10 and reach its maximum range of 2000km in less than 12 minutes." |
MrHelpful User ID: 647072 Australia 03/31/2009 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Everyone, Quoting: In the Know 647048... Active infrared Sat targeting will track this threat and elimination within 20 min. of launch.... the missile can travel at mach 10 and reach its maximum range of 2000km in less than 12 minutes. making you 8 minutes too late |
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User ID: 74180 United States 03/31/2009 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satellites, drones, carrier pigeons, radar, hang gliders, man, that long dong needs a lot of support. Quoting: MothraLong Dong Silver....AWAY! I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame. We are like flies crawling across the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel: We cannot see what angels and gods lie underneath the threshold of our perceptions. We do not live in reality; we live in our paradigms, our habituated perceptions, our illusions; the illusions we share through culture we call reality, but the true historical reality of our condition is invisible to us.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 619284 Canada 03/31/2009 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. It's another conjecture floated to perpetuate the American military establishment war machine's need for another new enemy. 2. If it is true, it's merely an antidote for the war disease your American politicians have spawned. Stop inventing aggressive weapons and China et al won't have to invent the cure for that shit. 3. So they are moving in the "South China Sea". It's China. It's within their area of influence. It's not the Gulf of Mexico they are interested in. Get it? 4. American war pigs fuck off. |
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(OP) User ID: 378820 United States 03/31/2009 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good thread Wasayo! Quoting: Frigg StuyvesantI have missed your threads lately. Is it me or have you been absent? hi, Frigg! ya, i've been kinda "missing in action" for sure! i had a stroke in December, but i'm doing much better now. many thanks to dear DJB-ANKS for asking too! big hugs, Wasayo "Every word of God is pure: He is a shield unto them that put their trust in Him." Prov. 30:5 |
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Hiram User ID: 516918 United States 03/31/2009 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The US technological edge has moved beyond ALL BALLISTIC MISSLES...HOWEVER THEY MANEUVER. Its a pointless debate. I agree with the above poster that describes carriers as realatively obsolete. Scalar weapons, particle beams that fire from orbit destroying missles on thier platforms....high frequency energy that will annhiliate all unshielded electronic infrastructure and communications--Putting an entire country back in the third world. Lasers that permanently blind the enemy from above. Of course most of the groups that have and test this tech don't even provide it to the US military willy-nilly. Its being kept in the dark....Black....until TSHTF. But I mean it really has to hit it.. It will only be implemented if the very power structure themselves feel imminently threatened. I wouldn't worry about a new missle |