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RE: OBAMA; Obama still has the approval of the people, but the establishment is beginning to mumble that the president may not have what it takes

 
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RE: OBAMA; Obama still has the approval of the people, but the establishment is beginning to mumble that the president may not have what it takes
Mar 10, 2009 | [link to www.newsweek.com]



Surfer that he is, President Obama should know a riptide when he's in one. The center usually is the safest, most productive place in politics, but perhaps not now, not in a once-in-a-century economic crisis.

Swimming in the middle, he's denounced as a socialist by conservatives, criticized as a polite accommodationist by government-is-the-answer liberals, and increasingly, dismissed as being in over his head by technocrats.

Luckily for Obama, the public still likes and trusts him, at least judging by the latest polls, including NEWSWEEK's.But, in ways both large and small, what's left of the American establishment is taking his measure and, with surprising swiftness, they are finding him lacking.

They have some reasons to be concerned. I trace them to a central trait of the president's character: he's not really an in-your-face guy. By recent standards—and that includes Bill Clinton as well as George Bush—Obama for the most part is seeking to govern from the left, looking to solidify and rely on his own party more than woo Republicans. And yet he is by temperament judicious, even judicial. He'd have made a fine judge. But we don't need a judge. We need a blunt-spoken coach.

Obama may be mistaking motion for progress, calling signals for a game plan. A busy, industrious overachiever, he likes to check off boxes on a long to-do list. A genial, amenable guy, he likes to appeal to every constituency, or at least not write off any. A beau ideal of Harvard Law, he can't wait to tackle extra-credit answers on the exam.

But there is only one question on this great test of American fate: can he lead us away from plunging into another Depression?

If the establishment still has power, it is a three-sided force, churning from inside the Beltway, from Manhattan-based media and from what remains of corporate America. Much of what they are saying is contradictory, but all of it is focused on the president:

The $787 billion stimulus, gargantuan as it was, was in fact too small and not aimed clearly enough at only immediate job-creation.
The $275 billion home-mortgage-refinancing plan, assembled by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, is too complex and indirect.
The president gave up the moral high ground on spending not so much with the "stim" but with the $400 billion supplemental spending bill, larded as it was with 9,000 earmarks.
The administration is throwing good money after bad in at least two cases—the sinkhole that is Citigroup (there are many healthy banks) and General Motors (they deserve what they get).
The failure to call for genuine sacrifice on the part of all Americans, despite the rhetorical claim that everyone would have to "give up" something.
A willingness to give too much leeway to Congress to handle crucial details, from the stim to the vague promise to "reform" medical care without stating what costs could be cut.
A 2010 budget that tries to do far too much, with way too rosy predictions on future revenues and growth of the economy. This led those who fear we are about to go over Niagara Falls to deride Obama as a paddler who'd rather redesign the canoe.
A treasury secretary who has been ridiculed on "Saturday Night Live" and compared to Doogie Howser, Barney Fife and Macaulay Culkin in "Home Alone"—and those are the nice ones.
A seeming paralysis in the face of the banking crisis: unwilling to nationalize banks, yet unable to figure out how to handle toxic assets in another way—by, say, setting up a "bad bank" catch basin.
A seeming reluctance to seek punishing prosecutions of the malefactors of the last 15 years—and even considering a plea bargain for Bernie Madoff, the poster thief who stole from charities and Nobel laureates and all the grandparents of Boca. Yes, prosecutors are in charge, but the president is entitled—some would say required—to demand harsh justice.
The president, known for his eloquence and attention to detail, seemingly unwilling or unable to patiently, carefully explain how the world works—or more important, how it failed. Using FDR's fireside chats as a model, Obama needs to explain the banking system in laymen's terms. An ongoing seminar would be great.
Obama is no socialist, but critics argue that now is not the time for costly, upfront spending on social engineering in health care, energy or education.
Other than all that, in the eyes of the big shots, he is doing fine. The American people remain on his side, but he has to be careful that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn't trickle down to the rest of us.
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he's an intern at best
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I'm thinkin presidential management 101
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Well i like him, im sure that bush is laughing his ass off due to what obama is now going thru trying to fix the near fixless mess bush has got the usa into
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Although I did not vote for him......I have come to appreciate the change. I feel like he is being more out front and honest with us than the prevous administration. And I believe Americans understand he inherited this mess. I call it a mess because we have had hidden debt, for the war and private agendas, and people in power who care not what will happen to the generations who will pay this debt. (Perhaps they didn't plan on anyone paying the debt). Whatever. We are an evolving populace with generations to come who will look back and see those people for what they were. Their history is written by their deeds. President Obama has a great opportunity to turn this around because the American people will not be held down. You can drag us down, but you can't keep us there. He knows this, vibrates this and resounds it to us. He will be a great leader. And following the last administration, even if not all of his plans are completed, he will still be a hero by comparrison.
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Mar 10, 2009 | [link to www.newsweek.com]



Surfer that he is, President Obama should know a riptide when he's in one. The center usually is the safest, most productive place in politics, but perhaps not now, not in a once-in-a-century economic crisis.

Swimming in the middle, he's denounced as a socialist by conservatives, criticized as a polite accommodationist by government-is-the-answer liberals, and increasingly, dismissed as being in over his head by technocrats.

Luckily for Obama, the public still likes and trusts him, at least judging by the latest polls, including NEWSWEEK's.But, in ways both large and small, what's left of the American establishment is taking his measure and, with surprising swiftness, they are finding him lacking.

They have some reasons to be concerned. I trace them to a central trait of the president's character: he's not really an in-your-face guy. By recent standards—and that includes Bill Clinton as well as George Bush—Obama for the most part is seeking to govern from the left, looking to solidify and rely on his own party more than woo Republicans. And yet he is by temperament judicious, even judicial. He'd have made a fine judge. But we don't need a judge. We need a blunt-spoken coach.

Obama may be mistaking motion for progress, calling signals for a game plan. A busy, industrious overachiever, he likes to check off boxes on a long to-do list. A genial, amenable guy, he likes to appeal to every constituency, or at least not write off any. A beau ideal of Harvard Law, he can't wait to tackle extra-credit answers on the exam.

But there is only one question on this great test of American fate: can he lead us away from plunging into another Depression?

If the establishment still has power, it is a three-sided force, churning from inside the Beltway, from Manhattan-based media and from what remains of corporate America. Much of what they are saying is contradictory, but all of it is focused on the president:

The $787 billion stimulus, gargantuan as it was, was in fact too small and not aimed clearly enough at only immediate job-creation.
The $275 billion home-mortgage-refinancing plan, assembled by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, is too complex and indirect.
The president gave up the moral high ground on spending not so much with the "stim" but with the $400 billion supplemental spending bill, larded as it was with 9,000 earmarks.
The administration is throwing good money after bad in at least two cases—the sinkhole that is Citigroup (there are many healthy banks) and General Motors (they deserve what they get).
The failure to call for genuine sacrifice on the part of all Americans, despite the rhetorical claim that everyone would have to "give up" something.
A willingness to give too much leeway to Congress to handle crucial details, from the stim to the vague promise to "reform" medical care without stating what costs could be cut.
A 2010 budget that tries to do far too much, with way too rosy predictions on future revenues and growth of the economy. This led those who fear we are about to go over Niagara Falls to deride Obama as a paddler who'd rather redesign the canoe.
A treasury secretary who has been ridiculed on "Saturday Night Live" and compared to Doogie Howser, Barney Fife and Macaulay Culkin in "Home Alone"—and those are the nice ones.
A seeming paralysis in the face of the banking crisis: unwilling to nationalize banks, yet unable to figure out how to handle toxic assets in another way—by, say, setting up a "bad bank" catch basin.
A seeming reluctance to seek punishing prosecutions of the malefactors of the last 15 years—and even considering a plea bargain for Bernie Madoff, the poster thief who stole from charities and Nobel laureates and all the grandparents of Boca. Yes, prosecutors are in charge, but the president is entitled—some would say required—to demand harsh justice.
The president, known for his eloquence and attention to detail, seemingly unwilling or unable to patiently, carefully explain how the world works—or more important, how it failed. Using FDR's fireside chats as a model, Obama needs to explain the banking system in laymen's terms. An ongoing seminar would be great.
Obama is no socialist, but critics argue that now is not the time for costly, upfront spending on social engineering in health care, energy or education.
Other than all that, in the eyes of the big shots, he is doing fine. The American people remain on his side, but he has to be careful that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn't trickle down to the rest of us.
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He's an amateur. He has no record of accomplishment. He has never run a business nor made a payroll. His fund of knowledge is very limited. This man is too ambitious to be president of the US or anything else. He governs from the
left because he is naive about how the world works. He will eventually turn nast and become a tyrant.
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Although I did not vote for him......I have come to appreciate the change. I feel like he is being more out front and honest with us than the prevous administration. And I believe Americans understand he inherited this mess. I call it a mess because we have had hidden debt, for the war and private agendas, and people in power who care not what will happen to the generations who will pay this debt. (Perhaps they didn't plan on anyone paying the debt). Whatever. We are an evolving populace with generations to come who will look back and see those people for what they were. Their history is written by their deeds. President Obama has a great opportunity to turn this around because the American people will not be held down. You can drag us down, but you can't keep us there. He knows this, vibrates this and resounds it to us. He will be a great leader. And following the last administration, even if not all of his plans are completed, he will still be a hero by comparrison.
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Ditto
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Good post OP. Fineman is actually a fan of President Obama so it's good to see the perspective he took in this opinion piece.
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i still say he is a lying sack ol' shit..
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Although I did not vote for him......I have come to appreciate the change. I feel like he is being more out front and honest with us than the prevous administration. And I believe Americans understand he inherited this mess. I call it a mess because we have had hidden debt, for the war and private agendas, and people in power who care not what will happen to the generations who will pay this debt. (Perhaps they didn't plan on anyone paying the debt). Whatever. We are an evolving populace with generations to come who will look back and see those people for what they were. Their history is written by their deeds. President Obama has a great opportunity to turn this around because the American people will not be held down. You can drag us down, but you can't keep us there. He knows this, vibrates this and resounds it to us. He will be a great leader. And following the last administration, even if not all of his plans are completed, he will still be a hero by comparrison.


Ditto
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WHAT THE CHANGE IN YOUR POCKETS??????????? wtf
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Although I did not vote for him......I have come to appreciate the change. I feel like he is being more out front and honest with us than the prevous administration. And I believe Americans understand he inherited this mess. I call it a mess because we have had hidden debt, for the war and private agendas, and people in power who care not what will happen to the generations who will pay this debt. (Perhaps they didn't plan on anyone paying the debt). Whatever. We are an evolving populace with generations to come who will look back and see those people for what they were. Their history is written by their deeds. President Obama has a great opportunity to turn this around because the American people will not be held down. You can drag us down, but you can't keep us there. He knows this, vibrates this and resounds it to us. He will be a great leader. And following the last administration, even if not all of his plans are completed, he will still be a hero by comparrison.


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WHAT THE CHANGE IN YOUR POCKETS??????????? wtf
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The change in yur pocket is whats left over after what bush has done to the usa and the economy.
Now that bush has laughed is way outta office its your type that are now throwing his leftover demise onto someone else.

Typical cannot accept responcibility reply
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bump ... and 5 stars for this thread
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