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OBAMA ADMITS HE WAS BRITISH CITIZEN AT BIRTH - AS SUCH OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF US

 
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OBAMA ADMITS HE WAS A BRITISH CITIZEN "AT BIRTH" - AS SUCH, OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES AND NEITHER WERE THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION, HENCE THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE IN ARTICLE 2. SECTION 1, CLAUSE 5 OF THE US CONSTITUTION
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(This blog post below contains the single most controlling legal precedent establishing Senator Barack Obama's ineligibility to be President under the Constitution. So I am leaving this blog post at the top of the blog for the next few days. Please study its simple premise.)

Don't be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues. They are irrelevant to Senator Obama's ineligibility to be President. Since Barack Obama's father was a Citizen of Kenya and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama's birth, then Senator Obama was a British Citizen "at birth", just like the Framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on US soil, he still wouldn't be eligible to be President.

The Framers of the Constitution, at the time of their birth, were also British Citizens and that's why the Framers declared that, while they were Citizens of the United States, they themselves were not "natural born Citizens". Hence their inclusion of the grandfather clause in Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution:

No person except a ***natural born Citizen**, or a Citizen of the United States, ***at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution****** shall be eligible to the Office of President;

That's it right there. (Emphasis added.)

The Framers wanted to make themselves eligible to be President, but they didn't want future generations to be Governed by a Commander In Chief who had split loyalty to another Country. The Framers were comfortable making an exception for themselves. They did, after all, create the Constitution. But they were not comfortable with the possibility of future generations of Presidents being born under the jurisdiction of Foreign Powers, especially Great Britain and its monarchy, who the Framers and Colonists fought so hard in the American Revolution to be free of.

The Framers declared themselves not eligible to be President as "natural born Citizens", so they wrote the grandfather clause in for the limited exception of allowing themselves to be eligible to the Presidency in the early formative years of our infant nation.

But nobody alive today can claim eligibility to be President under the grandfather clause since nobody alive today was a citizen of the US at the time the Constitution was adopted.
The Framers distinguished between "natural born Citizens" and all other "Citizens". And that's why it's important to note the 14th Amendment only confers the title of "Citizen", not "natural born Citizen". The Framers were Citizens, but they weren't natural born Citizens. They put the stigma of not being natural born Citizens on themselves in the Constitution and they are the ones who wrote the Document.

Since the the Framers didn't consider themselves to have been "natural born Citizens" due to their having been subject to British jurisdiction at their birth, then Senator Obama, having also been subject to British jurisdiction at the time of his birth, also cannot be considered a "natural born Citizen" of the United States.

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Barack Obama's official web site, Fight The Smears, admits he was a British Citizen at birth. At the very bottom of the section of his web site that shows an alleged official Certification Of Live Birth, the web site lists the following information and link thereto:
FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

That is a direct admission Barack Obama was a British citizen "at birth".

My law suit argues that since Obama had dual citizenship "at birth" and therefore split loyalties "at birth", he is not a "natural born citizen" of the United States. A "natural born citizen" would have no other jurisdiction over him "at birth" other than that of the United States. The Framers chose the words "natural born" and those words cannot be ignored. The status referred to in Article 2, Section 1, "natural born citizen", pertains to the status of the person's citizenship "at birth".

The other numerous law suits circling Obama to question his eligibility fail to hit the mark on this issue. Since Obama was, "at birth", a British citizen, it is completely irrelevant, as to the issue of Constitutional "natural born citizen" status, whether Obama was born in Hawaii or abroad. Either way, he is not eligible to be President. Should Obama produce an original birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii, it will not change the fact that Obama was a British citizen "at birth".

Obama has admitted to being a British subject "at birth". And as will be made perfectly clear below, his being subject to British jurisdiction "at birth" bars him from being eligible to be President of the United States.

As I have argued before the United States Supreme Court, the 14th Amendment does not confer "natural born citizen" status anywhere in its text. It simply states that a person born in the United States is a "Citizen", and only if he is "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States:

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."


The most overlooked words in that section are: "...or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution..." You must recall that most, if not all, of the framers of the Constitution were, at birth, born as British subjects.

Stop and think about that.

The chosen wording of the Framers here makes it clear that they had drawn a distinction between themselves - persons born subject to British jurisdiction - and "natural born citizens" who would not be born subject to British jurisdiction or any other jurisdiction other than the United States. And so the Framers grandfathered themselves into the Constitution as being eligible to be President. But the grandfather clause only pertains to any person who was a Citizen... at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution. Obama was definitely not a Citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and so he is not grandfathered in.

And so, for Obama or anybody else to be eligible to be President, they must be a "natural born citizen" of the United States "at birth". It should be obvious that the Framers intended to deny the Presidency to anybody who was a British subject "at birth". If this had not been their intention, then they would not have needed to include a grandfather clause which allowed the Framers themselves to be President.

If you click through to Factcheck.org, a more detailed discussion as to why Obama was a British citizen at birth explains the relevant statutes:

"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children:

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.' "


The article goes on to state that Obama's British citizenship was transferred to Kenya as Kenya became independent from the UK and that Obama's Kenyan citizenship expired when he turned 21 years old. But none of that is relevant since the Constitution requires that every President be a "natural born citizen". The word "born" is proof positive that the status must be present "at birth". If this were not the case, then, as stated above, the Framers would not have needed to put in a grandfather clause.

The Framers recognized that even they were not "natural born citizens" and so they wrote the grandfather clause in to allow any of them to become President. But the grandfather clause only pertains to those who were Citizens at the time of the Constitution's adoption. And so, Barack Obama is not a "natural born citizen" of the United States and neither is John McCain who was born in Panama, and neither is Roger Calero who was born in Nicaragua.
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yawn Think we're don with this conspiracy.
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When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948.











hmmmmmmm!
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Was Obama a british citizen AT BIRTH YES OR NO?
THE ANSWERR IS YES!!
THERFORE HE IS A DUAL CITIZEN
DUEL CITIZENS CANNOT EVER BE NATURAL BORN.
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In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.' "

AND SO NOT ANTURAL BORN AND disqualified from ever holding POTUS LEGALLY.

DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION NOW!!
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THE LEGAL POINTS SET FORTH BY LEO DONOFRIO ARE THE CASE AGAINST OBAMA.
IT MATTERS NOT IF HE WAS BORN IN HAWAAI IT MATTERS NOT IF HE BORN IN KENYA
IT MATTERS NOT IF HE BORN IN INDONESIA
OR CANADA .
ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT AT THE MOMENT OF HIS BIRTH HE WAS BORN A CITIZEN OF THE UKC.
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BUMP

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Please define "natural born citizen". Until you do this, your argument is useless.
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UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION NOW OR SURRENDER TO THE ISLAMIC COUP
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6 other past US presidents have had foreign born parents.

They were,

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish.

Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England

James Buchanan (1857-1861), whose father was born in Ireland

Chester Arthur (1881-1885), whose father was born in Ireland

Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921), whose mother was born in England

Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mother was Canadian
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AH HA HAAA HAAAA!

You want us to believe the Illuminati are made up of rotten toothed, chinless British people and Irish drunks?


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When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948.

hmmmmmmm!
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As long as his mother was a US citizen, he has dual citizenship.
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According to your half baked argument, any person born of a parent who was an immigrant who had not yet become naturalized, would not be considered a natural born citizen. You are incorrect in your interpretation of the law.

I was born in Kansas shortly after WWII. My fathers family of farmers had lived in the state for 4 generations dating back to the pre-civil war era. My mother was Canadian and I was born about 5 years after they had become married. My mother had not yet become naturalized and was still a Canadian citizen - so according to you, I am not a natural born US citizen. If natural born then what I am? If I was not a citizen at birth, then I must have had to become naturalized at some point. But you are wrong. Your argument is ill conceived, and children of parents who are not themselves citizens of the United States, are granted citizenship at birth if they are born in this country.

As someone else pointed out, there have been previous presidents born from a parent who was not themselves a US citizen. My mother retained dual Canadian/US citizenship until her death last year.
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GOD FUCKING DAMN, you're stupid.



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6 other past US presidents have had foreign born parents.

They were,

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish.

Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England

James Buchanan (1857-1861), whose father was born in Ireland

Chester Arthur (1881-1885), whose father was born in Ireland

Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921), whose mother was born in England

Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mother was Canadian
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ALL UPSURPERS AND ILLIGITIMATE OR GRANDFATHER CLAUSE
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GOD FUCKING DAMN, you're stupid.



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NO MY FREIND YOU ARE PURPOSELY doing an ad HOMINEN ATTACK AS ALL YOU ISLAMISTS USUALLY DO!!

dual citizens cannot be ever legally president of the unitited states.
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6 other past US presidents have had foreign born parents.

They were,

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish.

Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England

James Buchanan (1857-1861), whose father was born in Ireland

Chester Arthur (1881-1885), whose father was born in Ireland

Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921), whose mother was born in England

Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mother was Canadian
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All commonwealth countries eh?

uk
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Is he dancing the JIG????
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More wacko repuke bullshit
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Since my parents were illegal immigrants from mexico at the time i was born in LA, California.... does this mean im not a natural born citizen (and cant be president).. or does this only pertain to THE UK?
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Is he dancing the JIG????
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he's shakin what his momma gave em.
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GOD FUCKING DAMN, you're stupid.



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NO MY FREIND YOU ARE PURPOSELY doing an ad HOMINEN ATTACK AS ALL YOU ISLAMISTS USUALLY DO!!

dual citizens cannot be ever legally president of the unitited states.
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DAMN, you're even STUPIDER than STUPID!

SHOW me a law that says that. Something CLOSE to a law. Show me ANYTHING that says someone holding American citizenship CAN NOT hold ANY other citizenship.

SHOW ME, you fucking ignorant pissant jackass moron!!

YOU are a fool, who DOES NOT understand simple English, who CAN'T think for yourself, AND you're a PISS-POOR speller as well!!!


The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says ANY PERSON born on U.S. soil IS A NATURAL-BORN citizen. ANY PERSON who has ONE Parent who is a U.S. Citizen IS a natural-born citizen AT BIRTH!

Obama qualifies on BOTH those points. NO argument will change that, which is WHY the Supreme Court has NOT taken up ANY of the challenges to Obama's qualifications, and WILL NOT, EVER!!!!

If ANYONE tries to tell you that ANY of the above isn't true, they are fools. And if YOU trust them, you are WORSE than a fool.



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Please define "natural born citizen". Until you do this, your argument is useless.
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It can't be said any simpler than what has already been posted. If you don't understand it, then you are the useless one.
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yawn Think we're don with this conspiracy.
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We are not....
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GOD FUCKING DAMN, you're stupid.

Until the everyday common American understands that there is a difference between being a U.S. Citizen and a Natural Born Citizen, this debate will continue. Keep the blinders on if it makes it easier for you to understand what you are reading.

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NO MY FREIND YOU ARE PURPOSELY doing an ad HOMINEN ATTACK AS ALL YOU ISLAMISTS USUALLY DO!!

dual citizens cannot be ever legally president of the unitited states.



DAMN, you're even STUPIDER than STUPID!

SHOW me a law that says that. Something CLOSE to a law. Show me ANYTHING that says someone holding American citizenship CAN NOT hold ANY other citizenship.

SHOW ME, you fucking ignorant pissant jackass moron!!

YOU are a fool, who DOES NOT understand simple English, who CAN'T think for yourself, AND you're a PISS-POOR speller as well!!!


The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says ANY PERSON born on U.S. soil IS A NATURAL-BORN citizen. ANY PERSON who has ONE Parent who is a U.S. Citizen IS a natural-born citizen AT BIRTH!

Obama qualifies on BOTH those points. NO argument will change that, which is WHY the Supreme Court has NOT taken up ANY of the challenges to Obama's qualifications, and WILL NOT, EVER!!!!

If ANYONE tries to tell you that ANY of the above isn't true, they are fools. And if YOU trust them, you are WORSE than a fool.



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Sen. Shelby’s Foray Into the Eligibility Issue Helps Cause a Stir in the Press
Posted on February 23rd, 2009 by David-Crockett



The Right Side of Life is reporting:

This evening, WorldNetDaily is reporting that Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) had seriously questioned the President’s eligibility:


WASHINGTON – A U.S. senator has weighed in on the continuing controversy over Barack Obama’s eligibility for office by saying he has never seen proof the new president was actually born in Hawaii.

“Well, his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., told constituents in Cullman County. “You have to be born in America to be president.”

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The clause in the constitution states,

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

So the crux of your argument rests on the a belief that natural born citizen does NOT mean born in this country, but also must mean both parents are also citizens who do not retain any sort of dual citizenship.

I am as much into a good conspriacy as anyone, but your idea has no basis.

Article 14 of the constitution clarifys natural born saying that:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


The meaning is clear. "ALL PERSONS BORN OR NATURALIZED IN THE UNITED STATES ARE CITIZENS." If you were not born here, then you can only be a citizen if you are naturalized, if you were not naturalized, then you can only be a citizen if you were born here.



IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT HAVING PARENTS THAT ARE NOT CITIZENS THEMSELVES OR WHO HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP.

Your post is bsflag





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