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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 526890 United States 12/23/2008 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Culture of Surveillance Creeps Across Europe, Despite Resistance Despite the fact that fascism and repressive state security services dominated Europe - East and West - at different points in the 20th century, a new culture of surveillance is spreading, slowly, across the region again, using tools that the Nazis and the KGB never had. The U.S. and Britain stepped up their internal surveillance networks after suffering some of the West's deadliest terrorist attacks in the past decade, but now other European governments are embracing some of the same tools and techniques. The pace of adoption is slower on the Continent than it's been in Britain because of public concerns about liberty and personal privacy. Take Vanves, a community of 30,000 with ancient roots that has gradually adopted 21st century security measures. The middle-class suburb that adjoins the southern border of Paris was the headquarters for a Wehrmacht motorized division during the Nazi occupation in World War II. Several years ago, the mayor installed a couple of surveillance video cameras to keep an eye on rowdy young men congregating at night, as well as a handful of drug dealers. More were added over time. Now the town has nine cameras operating near schools, in parks and shopping areas, all of them linked to the local and national police. France aims to triple the number of such cameras in public places to 60,000 by 2009, and while officials and residents express concern about individual privacy and liberty, they are ambivalent about the use of such surveillance tools. "It's not the state that does this, it's the others," said Alain Winter, a senior officer in France's national directorate-general of police, sounding slightly defensive as he points to individual towns and villages. Winter stresses that the number of public and private surveillance cameras in France is a fraction of that in Britain, which has as many as 10 million. Surveillance in the U.S. is limited mostly to large cities, such as Chicago, which has more than 2,200 closed circuit cameras spread through the city, and 4,500 in its public schools. "The state in France asks a lot, has lots of ideas, but has very little money," says Bernard Gauducheau, who's been the mayor of Vanves since 2001. The mayor, who said that he's merely trying to keep pace with the times, even has a personal blog. Yet he says he initially was reluctant to install video cameras in his town since their record in reducing crime elsewhere is mixed at best, and funding assistance from the central government was limited. However, he has no regrets. He stresses that unlike Britain, where tapes are kept indefinitely, tapes here are held only for 48 hours. "There was a demand from the local population to do something," Gauducheau explained. The cameras "haven't solved all the problems, but the population has thanked me." Manuel Santin, a fruit-and-vegetable vendor in a pedestrian shopping zone in Vanves, supports the increased surveillance. The 60-year-old Spanish emigre stood opposite one of the town's video cameras. "For me it's no problem," he said. "The more security, the better." Emmanuel Martinais, a French academic who's studied surveillance systems, said "under Sarkozy, there is stronger repression" in France, a reference to President Nicolas Sarkozy's election on a platform that included a crackdown on crime. Martinais said that Sarkozy and his aides "are inspired by the U.S. and U.K." In fact, France has a long tradition of domestic surveillance and has monitored its large Muslim community, including mosques, for years. Now, two domestic spy agencies are being merged into one organization that will reportedly have about 6,000 agents, much larger than Britain's MI5. [link to www.kansascity.com] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
enubinky User ID: 571990 United States 12/23/2008 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey phenom, i have been observing as the high speed internet goes on the telephone poles have acquired new attachments which do have an eye on the sheeple look to them and even little sat dishes! sorry for asking but i hope your avatar,well on second thought you are the q o m so i play it safe,i kid but not about what you stating.;} |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 526890 United States 12/23/2008 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey phenom, i have been observing as the high speed internet goes on the telephone poles have acquired new attachments which do have an eye on the sheeple look to them and even little sat dishes! sorry for asking but i hope your avatar,well on second thought you are the q o m so i play it safe,i kid but not about what you stating.;} Quoting: enubinky 571990in hbg city pa, the street behind my 2nd house, atop the pole theres one of those 'black eyes'....theyre all over the interchanges too, like I83 political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 526890 United States 12/23/2008 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in 2005 hbg city also installed moving cameras all about the city especially in the hood. city council played it off as traffic control. then we got word from city employees that the entire city was 'wired' for audio too. cameras, audio....and so it goes. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 526890 United States 12/23/2008 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | abc27 news/whtm just broadcast moments ago that the city is going to implement more - 165 more black eyes for law enforcement control. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |