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There Are Human/Animal Figures in Outer Space. Cherubim from Ezekiel?

 
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Perhaps there are 2 dogs! Hehe
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Did you see this thread? This has embedded figures also. The guy said he screen-captured it and then turned it into a negative I think.

Thread: Two creatures standing behind William Cooper
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim "seed" are TPTB.

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I need information about demons cherubim (rebels) who HIDE in UV spectrum and that's why sometimes the film catches them with infrared film.
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I need information about demons cherubim (rebels) who HIDE in UV spectrum and that's why sometimes the film catches them with infrared film.
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What? You need info or you read info? I'll have to look up that hiding in UV spectrum theory. I hadn't heard of that.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim "seed" are TPTB.

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It seems Rosacrucian alchemists did know the secret of using elixir and concave mirrors to enhance human vision into UV spectrum.

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Apostle Paul almost 2000 years ago wrote Satan disguises into light. Actually he used a couple of Greek words, one was "metaschematizo" from where it comes our word "metamorphosis" and "phosphorous" which is "light carrier". So, actually demons can play holographic tricks like 20 million recorded "ufos" to hide their truly hybrid hum-animal resemblance.
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I was chatting by e-mail with author Maurice Cotterell and I said the same thing I proposed to Egyptologist Anthony West: I said not only the temples made of stone didn't allow the entrance of LIGHT allowing the enhancement of the melatonin in complete darkness but they also used hallucinogenic substances to plug their brain in. The fact these civilisations DEFORMED THEIR SKULLS eventually also altered the shape of their brains a bit like Einstein's brain oddities already examined. The bidimensional flat hieroglyphs as a matter of fact BECAME ALIVE into 3D animated "film" just like Spielberg showed in Moses' nightmare scene in the animated "Prince of Egypt". Then the 740 hybrid hum-animal gods show up themselves like they have been all the time. West said he couldn't allow himself to enter "stone" in temples and pyramids nor he wants to but he agrees mostly with me.

Peruvian Chavin culture (and their offspring) have used hallucinogenic stuff that allows the INFRARED vision like a feline at night. We have seen that even in History Channel and other channel with Josh Bernstein (or something like this his surname and dressed up like Indiana Jones). They saw a FELINE MINOTAURUS holding snakes centuries before Spaniard conquerors imported bulls from Spain.

[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]

[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]


A cherubim is mostly calf not just because one out of his 4 faces but also because of his feet as Ezekiel described them.
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It seems Rosacrucian alchemists did know the secret of using elixir and concave mirrors to enhance human vision into UV spectrum.

[link to vodpod.com]


Apostle Paul almost 2000 years ago wrote Satan disguises into light. Actually he used a couple of Greek words, one was "metaschematizo" from where it comes our word "metamorphosis" and "phosphorous" which is "light carrier". So, actually demons can play holographic tricks like 20 million recorded "ufos" to hide their truly hybrid hum-animal resemblance.
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Thanks, Inca. This is fascinating. I never looked into the Greek word for "light" and made the connection with holographs and infrared. I'll have to research it all further now.

I must say I'm confused about the UV spectrum idea you mentioned, the fact that the alchemists were using elixirs to allow them to see what we normally can't. I thought they had their third eye opened and thus could see into the different dimensions. No?
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim "seed" are TPTB.

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I was chatting by e-mail with author Maurice Cotterell and I said the same thing I proposed to Egyptologist Anthony West: I said not only the temples made of stone didn't allow the entrance of LIGHT allowing the enhancement of the melatonin in complete darkness but they also used hallucinogenic substances to plug their brain in. The fact these civilisations DEFORMED THEIR SKULLS eventually also altered the shape of their brains a bit like Einstein's brain oddities already examined. The bidimensional flat hieroglyphs as a matter of fact BECAME ALIVE into 3D animated "film" just like Spielberg showed in Moses' nightmare scene in the animated "Prince of Egypt". Then the 740 hybrid hum-animal gods show up themselves like they have been all the time. West said he couldn't allow himself to enter "stone" in temples and pyramids nor he wants to but he agrees mostly with me.

Peruvian Chavin culture (and their offspring) have used hallucinogenic stuff that allows the INFRARED vision like a feline at night. We have seen that even in History Channel and other channel with Josh Bernstein (or something like this his surname and dressed up like Indiana Jones). They saw a FELINE MINOTAURUS holding snakes centuries before Spaniard conquerors imported bulls from Spain.

[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]

[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]


A cherubim is mostly calf not just because one out of his 4 faces but also because of his feet as Ezekiel described them.
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Hmmm, yes, melatonin increases with meditation and at night when we sleep and there's no light on. Interesting stuff. Did you mean to say he didn't want to enter "stoned" in the temples and pyramids?

Yes, the cherubim have calf's feet. I have to say I have yet to see a good illustration of the cherubim from any artist. Maybe I haven't found the right one yet.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim "seed" are TPTB.

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I did in the previous page.

[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

It's difficult because in order to depict the 4 faces in A SINGLE HEAD rather than 4 heads, we should've show a 360 degrees like Gaeta Special FX from Matrix. We can't do that on a flat 2D bidimensional canvas. Hence, in these 2 pictures the different artists had to draw FROM ABOVE and slightly inclined in a specific angle. They had to do that otherwise the whatever head behind would be "hidden". That's why Hindu or Egyptian "solved" the problem showing faces in profile or multitude arms and legs. Ezekiel indicates they do have multiple arms like Mortal Kombat or Power Rangers creatures.

The other solution is just do Picasso or Dadaism art. Francis Picabia did his sort of "collage" to intermingle. Picasso in Cubism influenced by Hypercubes Tesseract painted from 4th point of view of the creature as if watching us SIMULTANOUSLY from all directions. Like taking a photo of a person moving arms and twisting his /her head many times.
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Both John from Apocalypse (4) and Ezekiel 1 and 10 mention the cherubim do have EYES all over their bodies and wings (Watchers indeed):

[link to fotolog.terra.com]

I had a conversation about this by e-mail with Mexican director Guillermo del Toro who has a photographic memory. Later on I discovered he introduced eyes in the wings of his angel of death just like he did eyes on the palms of the hands in Hellboy I. Anyway, I investigated Satan was also worshipped like a peacock, the feathers looking like "eyes" so you could think something like this:

[link to fotolog.terra.com]

[link to fotolog.terra.com]

[link to fotolog.terra.com]

And yet, as I showed in one site, the depiction of eyes is very clear in other cultures as well in Mesopotamia and with the calf feet. Cherubim is a karib which is winged-bull in Mesopotamia.

Even in our 3D realms the physical world is sometimes as odd as the metaphysical. Let's see the 2-faced cat (these photos are no hoaxes but do appear in books of mutation as well):
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
This is a calf born in Israel with 2 faces in one head:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
Ligers, hybrid of lions and tigers and twice the size of lions or tigers, with leopard spots in the head:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
Stuffed red leopard preserved in a museum:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
Hybrid of lion and leopard, Ikimizi or Leopon:

[link to fotolog.terra.com]

[link to fotolog.terra.com]

[link to fotolog.terra.com]

In Hebrew a seraphim is a bright shiny 6-winged snake with feet and hands. They are closer to God's throne, look like dragons and is what Isaiah 6 :1-6 mentions:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
Satan was seraphim Sammael and transformed into a lesser level being: a cherubim who is closer to Onanim wheels. Seraphim are above them. Now, Apocalypse 4 mentions "beings" who are neither cherubim nor seraphim but HYBRID, new creation. That's why they have the number of wings of the seraphim (6) but only ONE out of 4 faces of the cherubim. It's possible they can switch faces at their leisure.
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
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I have been drawing these creatures and I found another solution. You draw just 2 intermingled faces (let's say the lion and human) on a TRANSLUCID PAPER OR GLASS and then you draw the other couple (bull and eagle)on the other side. Then after you watch the thing OPPOSED TO THE LIGHT and see all 4 simultaneously. The one behind looks "hidden" like a phantasmagoric thing. This is exactly what Francis Picabia did although not with cherubim. I posted that as well:
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[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]

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As you can see in order to achieve that he had to merely draw the outside lines of some characters and add some colors or "depth" to others and stablish a difference with the background or landscape. To have such a concept the man had to THINK how to overcome or achieve that. That's amazing.
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Trying to prove evolution scientists bombed Drospohilla fies with gamma rays and inserted EYES on their FEET:
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Oops! I mispelled DROSOPHILA.
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See the problem? A face is always missing behind
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Yes, West didn't want to get "stoned" rastabananin the temples made of stone. I think Napoleon saw something really terrible perhaps appearing and herethere
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I did in the previous page.

[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

It's difficult because in order to depict the 4 faces in A SINGLE HEAD rather than 4 heads, we should've show a 360 degrees like Gaeta Special FX from Matrix. We can't do that on a flat 2D bidimensional canvas. Hence, in these 2 pictures the different artists had to draw FROM ABOVE and slightly inclined in a specific angle. They had to do that otherwise the whatever head behind would be "hidden". That's why Hindu or Egyptian "solved" the problem showing faces in profile or multitude arms and legs. Ezekiel indicates they do have multiple arms like Mortal Kombat or Power Rangers creatures.

The other solution is just do Picasso or Dadaism art. Francis Picabia did his sort of "collage" to intermingle. Picasso in Cubism influenced by Hypercubes Tesseract painted from 4th point of view of the creature as if watching us SIMULTANOUSLY from all directions. Like taking a photo of a person moving arms and twisting his /her head many times.
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Very good point! We can only see in two dimensions, whereas a four-dimensional being can see in three dimensions. This is how people describe being out of body, right? Being able to see in three dimensions? I wonder how high the dimensions go and what degree the cherubim, etc., are, fifth-dimensional beings, sixth-dimensional, etc.? Or does the point at which you see with your eyes stop at the third dimension, and then to see higher than that, your senses take over and you're no longer seeing higher than the third dimension through your eyes but perceiving it in your spirit instead.

You sent me some good art. Thanks! I enjoyed looking at those pictures. There's actually some good cherubim drawings there. I particularly like the art of God's throne with the elders all around.

Is that you in the tattoo pic with the sanctus sanctus dominus deus?
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim "seed" are TPTB.

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Nop. That's not me. It's a friend of mine to whom I showed the art and he felt the design "chose him" to be tattooed. After a year or more he just decided to get it finally done.

Actually we see in 3D (width, height, lenght). There's a Russian girl who can see like having X-ray eyes. I think the spirits can see us not just in the sense of temperature or with infrared eyes like a snake (or Predator) but also they can see us from within. Even sharks and dolphins detect our energies or echo-images. I have seen sharp colors and hear odd noises in state of meditation which makes me feel our 3D reality and colors are like pale dark shadows of what's beyond....
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Nop. That's not me. It's a friend of mine to whom I showed the art and he felt the design "chose him" to be tattooed. After a year or more he just decided to get it finally done.

Actually we see in 3D (width, height, lenght). There's a Russian girl who can see like having X-ray eyes. I think the spirits can see us not just in the sense of temperature or with infrared eyes like a snake (or Predator) but also they can see us from within. Even sharks and dolphins detect our energies or echo-images. I have seen sharp colors and hear odd noises in state of meditation which makes me feel our 3D reality and colors are like pale dark shadows of what's beyond....
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Who's the Russian girl? Is she a friend of yours?

You say you meditate. Do you mind me asking your beliefs? Do you believe in the God of the Bible and believe Jesus was God in the flesh? What do you mean seeing in sharp colors and hearing odd noises when you meditate?
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Russian girl is not a friend of mine. I'll check some info about her which is unexplained by science.

Hebrews wrote their codes about their Bible which is very different from... let's say Kaballah. What Ezekiel, Isaiah, Daniel, Joel and John from Apocalypse and even Moses described suits with what other visions of heaven. This thing about cube (or pyramid)Heavenly Paradise or hybrid humánimal entities, wheels or "domes" have been seeing for shamans and priests in all civilisations. It's part of interdimensional realm. What Ezekiel in particular describes as Merkavah or chariot-throne has been explained as the colective mankind in the humanoid imagine and represents the homo photeinos or light-man which I think is like Adam Kadmon resemblance. These things have to be witnessed and all bla-bla-bla about it is worthless, really. Solomon temple, for example, did have the structure of a human body with priest's turbant. Theomatic codes, geometrical patterns which exist in our 3D reality and the other ones....like Mandalas drawn in Animatrix.

The more I read the Gospels I become more and more convinced Christ did have an experience from his 30's on which made his family to think he was a lunatic (even his mom and brothers and sisters). He was transformed and received what is called Holy Ghost. When he was accused to be a blasphemer he quoted Psalms admitting human beings were called "gods" so they didn't have to make a case (like today) about the word "god" which means "powerful". Not only he was the son of God -he said- but he was prior to Abraham. And all those times he used a mistranslated word in Greek "ego eimi" which meant not like in Greek "I am" (someone) but his utterance was in Hebrew. That was not the words "ani hu" meaning the same but he spoke "eyeh asher eyeh" which was the translation from God's name which was something like "I was, I am, I will be" or "I will be (something) to" (some people). His message "repent" was in Aramean something like "teshuvah" meaning get back to yourself and his idea was "pay attention to NOW" because we can't extend the LENGHT of time. He used a word in scale of SPACE applied to TIME. He was a mystic in the Hindu sense like other people. Many Hindues have said the same divinity which is a state of human beings... a fistful of people who eliminate their "EGO" (SELF)and once they eliminate that, only then they can say "I am God" or with God as in a vertical trip rather than our horizontal existence.


I ignore if I made myself understood but this is my understanding now. Christ's words have been completely misundertood with childhood explanations of his parables. In order to know what happened to him or what did he spoke we ought to understand Krishnamurti, Gurdjieff, Osho/Rajneesh, Mahavir and even Chinese mystic ones.
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Her vision case is not unique and in spite of the headlines mention "expose" this is still being discussed:
[link to english.pravda.ru]
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When I say under meditation the colors, hearing and smell is harper is exactly that. It's like Pink Floyd concert experience. Our eyes just detect some frequence of the spectrum. Our mind goes beyond.
Try giving an order to your brain ("I'm gonna remember with details or my dreams"). Once you remember them, WRITE THEM ON A PAPER and have already ready paper and a pen. Get used to do that and write or draw with details. After some days you'll see it gets better and better. Then try to meditate in spiritual images or mandalas, etc, for an HOUR before you dream, in that "bridge" between being awake and asleep. Then start to countdown from 100 to 0. It's gonna be tough at the beginning because you will scramble the numbers and confuse,let's say jumping from 78-77-76 to 55 or to 94 so you have to start again. Give an order to your mind that in order to WAKE UP you'll count from 0 to 5 and you would control your fear facing whatever odd thing you may "see". This is auto-hypnotic path. After some time if you persist you will acknowledge what I am telling you. It is that fear what closed the key to other inner/outer experiences. So, I'm telling you with anticipation. Read something about Mind Control Silva.
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We started in this thread with images in the Nebulas. This colors can be caught by longer exposition. In the same way, if you stare at an object for extended time WITHOUT BLINKING YOUR EYES, you'll see like a slight aura surrounds the objects, specially at sunset or under the candel lights. Even our eyes can be trained. I'm thinking painting black the walls of my bathroom and change the bulb light to a blue one and watch myself on the mirror, some centimetres above with the corner of my eye.....
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[link to www.silvaultramindsystem.com]
The people who call this pseudo-science simply have not tried it hence they lack objective experience:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to skepdic.com]

BTW, Christ's words are very esoteric many times. In the same context he was saying not to worry about tomorrow he enhanced to illuminate the eye (in singular just like Genesis 3 "eye" opened by Eve but with a different medium)which enlights all the body. Many visions of the prophets do have specifically written details saying "God OPENED" their eyes. That can happened in the brain or heart areas and others within the body. The meditation or some things I'm telling you it's not subjective theory I merely read. I'm talking by my own experience.
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Regarding watching auras, see part 2, 3, 4:
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Hindu temples had their equivalent to Holy of Holies in Jerusalem Temple, it was womb chamber or garbhagriha. The throne was prasada and the whole temple was a 3D Mandala. They also SAW the rivers of Paradise, Ede, 4-faced and multiple arms deities, etc. Great Pyramid mimics the function of the brain with interior chambers.
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Osho’s Teachings on Christ, The Seed Mustard, etc
[link to advaitavedantameditations.blogspot.com]
[link to www.vedanticshorespress.com]

I have to confess I hated Hindu religion and I do still believe there's still a lot of demonism in India and worshipping animals in disgusting way. But I undersstand this was getting far away from the original path just like Christianism got awat from Christ's teachings. So, I studied starting from the understanding of Hebrew and Greek and then I understood how wrong was the Christian simple pseudo explanations. It was deeper. Then after I saw the equivalence with Vedanta's teachings. Osho (Rajneesh) is the only Hindu who had enough understanding to see what's wrong with all religions and hence he didn't create any religion. Unfortunately he foresaw disciples always do the wrong thing. Therefore you have to read about this thing by yourself and don't care about the criticism. It will make you lose many years of your life. Don't judge without knowing. You need to have both subjetive theory knowledge and objective knowledge via practice. Even yoga or whatever. You asked me a question and it's not my intention to prove or demonstrate anything at all. I'm just being honest in my reply and yet, if you have any contra-argument I'm not rejecting additional answers until I get exhausted.. that is. Meanwhile: go for it if that's the case.
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Getting back to hybrids:
[link to stargods.org]
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