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User ID: 284011 United States 10/16/2008 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. Are you kidding?? It depends on where you live. “Whatever women must do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.” ~ Charlotte Whitton |
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(OP) User ID: 501628 United States 10/16/2008 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. I dont have a McCain sign in my yard. My wife said no way and she loves McCain and Palin. None of my neighbors have signs either. I know that most all of them are voting for McCain and they all had Bush signs. We have a couple of yuppies down the street who are Obama supporters. I found out when one of my neighbors who is in his 80's mentioned it me in a whisper at the mail box a few weeks back. He said not to say anyhing about Bush or the fucker goes ballistic. When I talk to my clients, if the conversation goes to politics, there is a silence for a minute where someone is waiting for a signal or something out of fear that the other person might be a Obamabot. I see this every day. There are absolutely zero mccain bumper stickers anywhere. I have not seen one in months. Anywhere. I have actually been looking for them. He will get half the vote, yet everyone is afraid of being open about supporting him. Its like that video of some McCain marchers in Manhattan getting booed and flipped off by the Obamabots. The silent majority is silent but will vote loudly for McCain by the tens of millions. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
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User ID: 284011 United States 10/16/2008 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. I dont have a McCain sign in my yard. My wife said no way and she loves McCain and Palin. None of my neighbors have signs either. I know that most all of them are voting for McCain and they all had Bush signs. Quoting: PACNWguyI'm sure you'd fit in great down here in the bible belt. You need to get amongst the brethren. Oddly enough, no one has yard signs for anyone. (except this ONE guy in town who has a huge McCain sign and a cardboard cut out of McCain in the rich neighborhood one street over) Only a few bumper stickers but they are mostly McCain. “Whatever women must do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.” ~ Charlotte Whitton |
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georgebushworstprezever User ID: 521040 United States 10/16/2008 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. I saw this article and it "clicked". Even in my neighborhood, there are usually dozens of presidential signs. This year their are NONE. Quoting: PACNWguy------------------------------------ October 16th, 2008 12:52 PM Eastern Why This Election Will Be Close: Hushed Confessions In recent weeks I have spent a good amount of time crisscrossing the country. Something very unusual is taking place. From Seattle to San Diego, from Burlington, Vermont to New York City, from New Orleans to Texas and Midwest towns like Cleveland, I am hearing hushed admissions of a terrible sin: “Father, I’m not going to vote for Obama.” Then I look at the polls. Nationally and in battleground States, Senator Obama is thrashing Senator McCain. So what gives? Pollsters would tell me it’s all very simple. Anecdotal evidence, like my experience on the road, isn’t really evidence at all. It is not trustworthy because it is not scientific. The divergence between what people are telling me and the polling data must be that I run in closed circles. People of like minds talk to me; the others don’t. Very logical…unless…unless people don’t want their neighbors (or pollsters) to know they aren’t voting for Obama. So, are we talking here about the “Bradley Effect”, that well-documented racist phenomenon of people telling pollsters one thing and then doing the opposite in the voting booth simply because the candidate is black? No. I am referring to something else — the fear of talking to pollsters, or to your neighbor, or to anyone else about not wanting to vote for Barack Obama because of what he stands for. Do you have doubts? How would you like to get up in front of a crowded theater in a mixed neighborhood and say you are going to vote for McCain? What respectable person wants to risk being considered a racist or a war monger or a fan of President Bush or an enemy of change? Many good people would like to see a black man as our president, or even a Democrat to be our president, but don’t want Barack Obama. Yes, this race is different in a way that defies the scientific nature of polls. Do you remember the hushed admissions? Why do people feel obliged to speak quietly? Will these people agree to talk to a pollster? I don’t think so. I wouldn’t. Eight years ago in 2000 and four years ago in 2004 my parents’ Ohio neighborhood was filled with political yard signs. For every two “Gore” or “Kerry” signs there were at least two “Bush” signs. And there were many, many signs, I assure you. Not so today. When I asked local McCain workers in Summit County the reason, they answered quickly: we go to the doors, people wink at us in approval, and then refuse to allow us to place a sign in their yard. A significant number of voters may prefer McCain, but don’t want to show their disapproval of Obama. What will this mean on November 4th? I don’t know for sure. I do think the election will be closer than the polls suggest. And I think it all has much more to do with Obama, the candidate, and his plans to “spread the wealth,” nominate very liberal federal judges and bow to Planned Parenthood, than with his ethnicity. What say you? God bless, Father Jonathan Of course drivel like this would "click" with you. That's the effect of all that crack you smoke. |
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User ID: 46877 United States 10/16/2008 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. PAC, how can you have any neighbors when you live out in the boonies? This author is a good buddy of Sean Hannity and is a commentator on FOX. Enough said. [link to www.google.com] |
PACNWguy
(OP) User ID: 501628 United States 10/16/2008 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. IT WILL TRULY BE SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 454845 United States 10/16/2008 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. Very logical…unless…unless people don’t want their neighbors (or pollsters) to know they aren’t voting for Obama. Quoting: PACNWguywhat's awesome is that this goes both ways, where you have people who don't want their neighbors/pollsters/spouses to know that they ARE voting for obama. Article: Polls may underestimate Obama's support by 3 to 4 percent, researchers say... [link to www.physorg.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 489021 United States 10/16/2008 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. It is simply amazing to me...that...Obama supporters are constantly on here bashing us so called.....Republican bible thumping christians ...so to speak...as if EVERYONE that supports McCain is any of that....BUT...HELLO....Obama is a bible thumping Christian....or at least that's what he has said he is! ????? What gives? Just sayin |
georgebushworstprezever User ID: 521040 United States 10/16/2008 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. It is simply amazing to me...that...Obama supporters are constantly on here bashing us so called.....Republican bible thumping christians ...so to speak...as if EVERYONE that supports McCain is any of that....BUT...HELLO....Obama is a bible thumping Christian....or at least that's what he has said he is! ????? What gives? Just sayin Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489021Most of the intelligent posters on here have not been bashing "Republican bible thumping christians" as you put it, but rather just those Republicans who support John McLame and Sarah Wink-Wink Palin. The Bible-thumping Christianity aspect has nothing to do with our total disdain for the GOP ticket. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 489021 United States 10/16/2008 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. It is simply amazing to me...that...Obama supporters are constantly on here bashing us so called.....Republican bible thumping christians ...so to speak...as if EVERYONE that supports McCain is any of that....BUT...HELLO....Obama is a bible thumping Christian....or at least that's what he has said he is! ????? What gives? Just sayin Quoting: georgebushworstprezever 521040Most of the intelligent posters on here have not been bashing "Republican bible thumping christians" as you put it, but rather just those Republicans who support John McLame and Sarah Wink-Wink Palin. The Bible-thumping Christianity aspect has nothing to do with our total disdain for the GOP ticket. That's not how I put it...It's how its been put...You have the right to be disdain...You and All people have the right to their view and their candidate...whichever it might be...however...I don't believe that rudeness and persecution of any sort is the way we should treat each other....Respect has somehow been lost in the he said..she said...I know better than you mentality! We should all be open to discussion...the views and concerns of each other and make intelligent and informed decisions! I don't see that happening! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 503371 United States 10/16/2008 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. I saw this article and it "clicked". Even in my neighborhood, there are usually dozens of presidential signs. This year their are NONE. Quoting: PACNWguy------------------------------------ October 16th, 2008 12:52 PM Eastern Why This Election Will Be Close: Hushed Confessions In recent weeks I have spent a good amount of time crisscrossing the country. Something very unusual is taking place. From Seattle to San Diego, from Burlington, Vermont to New York City, from New Orleans to Texas and Midwest towns like Cleveland, I am hearing hushed admissions of a terrible sin: “Father, I’m not going to vote for Obama.” Then I look at the polls. Nationally and in battleground States, Senator Obama is thrashing Senator McCain. So what gives? Pollsters would tell me it’s all very simple. Anecdotal evidence, like my experience on the road, isn’t really evidence at all. It is not trustworthy because it is not scientific. The divergence between what people are telling me and the polling data must be that I run in closed circles. People of like minds talk to me; the others don’t. Very logical…unless…unless people don’t want their neighbors (or pollsters) to know they aren’t voting for Obama. So, are we talking here about the “Bradley Effect”, that well-documented racist phenomenon of people telling pollsters one thing and then doing the opposite in the voting booth simply because the candidate is black? No. I am referring to something else — the fear of talking to pollsters, or to your neighbor, or to anyone else about not wanting to vote for Barack Obama because of what he stands for. Do you have doubts? How would you like to get up in front of a crowded theater in a mixed neighborhood and say you are going to vote for McCain? What respectable person wants to risk being considered a racist or a war monger or a fan of President Bush or an enemy of change? Many good people would like to see a black man as our president, or even a Democrat to be our president, but don’t want Barack Obama. Yes, this race is different in a way that defies the scientific nature of polls. Do you remember the hushed admissions? Why do people feel obliged to speak quietly? Will these people agree to talk to a pollster? I don’t think so. I wouldn’t. Eight years ago in 2000 and four years ago in 2004 my parents’ Ohio neighborhood was filled with political yard signs. For every two “Gore” or “Kerry” signs there were at least two “Bush” signs. And there were many, many signs, I assure you. Not so today. When I asked local McCain workers in Summit County the reason, they answered quickly: we go to the doors, people wink at us in approval, and then refuse to allow us to place a sign in their yard. A significant number of voters may prefer McCain, but don’t want to show their disapproval of Obama. What will this mean on November 4th? I don’t know for sure. I do think the election will be closer than the polls suggest. And I think it all has much more to do with Obama, the candidate, and his plans to “spread the wealth,” nominate very liberal federal judges and bow to Planned Parenthood, than with his ethnicity. What say you? God bless, Father Jonathan Pac this is a new low for you.... |
PACNWguy
(OP) User ID: 501628 United States 10/16/2008 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. Pac this is a new low for you.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 503371A new low? I have emails in my GLP email account from members HERE who dont come out and say they are for McCain so as not to have to put up with the shit I get from the fucking Obambats on this site. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
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User ID: 109238 United States 10/16/2008 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. WHEN OBAMA AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE SITTING IN THAT BALL PARK CELEBRATING HIS VICTORY AND COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THEY LOST...IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST UPSET IN AMERICAN HISTORY. Quoting: PACNWguyIT WILL TRULY BE SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. PAC, THEY WILL RIOT, THEY WILL KILL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 506578 United States 10/16/2008 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. I saw this article and it "clicked". Even in my neighborhood, there are usually dozens of presidential signs. This year their are NONE. Quoting: PACNWguyLOL. Yea, it clicked alright. You see another "article" and think, YES, this IS it! Finally something to rescue me from my abyss. Keep grasping at ANY little bit of hope. Stuck in the blue state of Oregon. With no hope of your vote counting towards anything for the Presidential election. But, at least you can vote against your local school levy. That's what OLD FUCKS LIKE YOU DO! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 454845 United States 10/16/2008 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. Very logical…unless…unless people don’t want their neighbors (or pollsters) to know they aren’t voting for Obama. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454845what's awesome is that this goes both ways, where you have people who don't want their neighbors/pollsters/spouses to know that they ARE voting for obama. Article: Polls may underestimate Obama's support by 3 to 4 percent, researchers say... [link to www.physorg.com] |
PACNWguy
(OP) User ID: 501628 United States 10/16/2008 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. WHEN OBAMA AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE SITTING IN THAT BALL PARK CELEBRATING HIS VICTORY AND COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THEY LOST...IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST UPSET IN AMERICAN HISTORY. Quoting: jarhaIT WILL TRULY BE SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. PAC, THEY WILL RIOT, THEY WILL KILL Odinga ran on HOPE and CHANGE. WHEN HE LOST, OBAMA SUGGESTED HE CLAIM VOTER FRAUD. 1000 PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED BY ODINGA'S PEOPLE AND 350,000 LOST THEIR HOMES. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
jarha
User ID: 109238 United States 10/16/2008 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. WHEN OBAMA AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE SITTING IN THAT BALL PARK CELEBRATING HIS VICTORY AND COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THEY LOST...IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST UPSET IN AMERICAN HISTORY. Quoting: PACNWguyIT WILL TRULY BE SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. -------------------------------------------------------------- PAC, THEY WILL RIOT, THEY WILL KILL -------------------------------------------------------------- Odinga ran on HOPE and CHANGE. WHEN HE LOST, OBAMA SUGGESTED HE CLAIM VOTER FRAUD. 1000 PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED BY ODINGA'S PEOPLE AND 350,000 LOST THEIR HOMES. THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED TO TAKE GUNS FROM US |
georgebushworstprezever User ID: 521040 United States 10/16/2008 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. It is simply amazing to me...that...Obama supporters are constantly on here bashing us so called.....Republican bible thumping christians ...so to speak...as if EVERYONE that supports McCain is any of that....BUT...HELLO....Obama is a bible thumping Christian....or at least that's what he has said he is! ????? What gives? Just sayin Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489021Most of the intelligent posters on here have not been bashing "Republican bible thumping christians" as you put it, but rather just those Republicans who support John McLame and Sarah Wink-Wink Palin. The Bible-thumping Christianity aspect has nothing to do with our total disdain for the GOP ticket. That's not how I put it...It's how its been put...You have the right to be disdain...You and All people have the right to their view and their candidate...whichever it might be...however...I don't believe that rudeness and persecution of any sort is the way we should treat each other....Respect has somehow been lost in the he said..she said...I know better than you mentality! We should all be open to discussion...the views and concerns of each other and make intelligent and informed decisions! I don't see that happening! I think you meant disdainful. In general I agree with what you're attempting to say in your response. It's sad that the McCain/Palin campaign apparently doesn't see it that way. |
PACNWguy
(OP) User ID: 501628 United States 10/16/2008 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. THAT BY ITSELF IS REASON TO VOTE AGAINST HIM...AND IT WOULDNT BE RACIST. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
georgebushworstprezever User ID: 521040 United States 10/16/2008 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. WHEN OBAMA AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE SITTING IN THAT BALL PARK CELEBRATING HIS VICTORY AND COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THEY LOST...IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST UPSET IN AMERICAN HISTORY. Quoting: PACNWguyIT WILL TRULY BE SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. PAC, THEY WILL RIOT, THEY WILL KILL Odinga ran on HOPE and CHANGE. WHEN HE LOST, OBAMA SUGGESTED HE CLAIM VOTER FRAUD. 1000 PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED BY ODINGA'S PEOPLE AND 350,000 LOST THEIR HOMES. :30kenya: You already paraded out this inflammatory BS on another thread. Please stick to your own topic. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 255704 United States 10/16/2008 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. I think this election will have record turnouts. The "silent Majority" will come out in droves... these are the ones the polls usually miss out on, the one's who vote sporadically. |
Best in Texas
User ID: 507893 United States 10/16/2008 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. I dont have a McCain sign in my yard. My wife said no way and she loves McCain and Palin. None of my neighbors have signs either. I know that most all of them are voting for McCain and they all had Bush signs. Quoting: PACNWguyWe have a couple of yuppies down the street who are Obama supporters. I found out when one of my neighbors who is in his 80's mentioned it me in a whisper at the mail box a few weeks back. He said not to say anyhing about Bush or the fucker goes ballistic. When I talk to my clients, if the conversation goes to politics, there is a silence for a minute where someone is waiting for a signal or something out of fear that the other person might be a Obamabot. I see this every day. There are absolutely zero mccain bumper stickers anywhere. I have not seen one in months. Anywhere. I have actually been looking for them. He will get half the vote, yet everyone is afraid of being open about supporting him. Its like that video of some McCain marchers in Manhattan getting booed and flipped off by the Obamabots. The silent majority is silent but will vote loudly for McCain by the tens of millions. Funny how very much we have in common. You just described me to a tee, only Im an Obama supporter in Texas. Watch... I dont have an Obama sign in my yard. My kids said no way and they love Obama and Biden . None of my neighbors have signs either. I know that most all of them are voting for Obama and they all had Kerry signs.(They are usually trashed or stolen) When I talk to my husband's clients, if the conversation goes to politics, there is a silence for a minute where someone is waiting for a signal or something out of fear that the other person might be a McCain supporter. (We just don't go there) I see this every day. There are absolutely zero Obama bumper stickers anywhere.(except mine) I have seen one. Anywhere. I have actually been looking for them. He will get half the vote, yet everyone is afraid of being open about supporting him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 454845 United States 10/16/2008 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE HUSHED ELECTION: This goes way beyond the Bradley Effect. Its not PC to be for McCain ~ Its akin to being a child molester. There isnt anyone that wouldnt agree that the Obama supporters are "militant" and there isnt anyone who doesnt admit to the possibility of riots if Obama loses. Quoting: PACNWguyTHAT BY ITSELF IS REASON TO VOTE AGAINST HIM...AND IT WOULDNT BE RACIST. i'm an obama supporter and i'm not "militant," nor are any of the other obama supporters that i know. try again, ass. |