Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,116 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,859,237
Pageviews Today: 2,748,072Threads Today: 743Posts Today: 15,611
10:28 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?

 
Canuck
Offer Upgrade

User ID: 522355
Canada
10/11/2008 12:37 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
I am posting this for all Canadian GLPers. Something to think about.

I have deleted several of the links (don't want to get banned from GLP). I receive a newsletter from earthrainbownetwork.com - anyone wanting to see the whole article and others of interest may do so there.

Canuck

Everyone have a great long-weekend!!

From: Alfred Lambremont Webre
Subject: Did Stephen Harper Have Prior Knowledge of Financial Crisis?
Date: 6 Oct 2008

To All CAP Members: Stephen Harper may be emerging as a prime operative of the New World Order on this planet. If what this article speculates on is true, the election of Stephen Harper to a majority will be a catastrophe for Canada, and will result in the functional end of Canada either through the SPP and NAU or an arrangement with the European Union.

Please read this article carefully and distribute it if you think it pertinent to all of your riding networks.

It is imperative that Stephen Harper be denied a majority, and that we at CAP focus on our agenda - which is to preserve Canada at all costs with our platform of a strong, citizen controlled Bank of Canada and an enforced Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Thank you for your attention.
Alfred Lambremont Webre
Vancouver, BC Oct. 6, 2008

From: [link to realitycheck.typepad.com]

Also from: [link to www.vivelecanada.ca]

Did Stephen Harper Have Prior Knowledge Of Financial Crisis? Posted on Monday, September 29 at 13:51 by Kevin Parkinson

Stephen Harper's Conservative party continues to hoodwink the unsuspecting public as the current election campaign mirrors the party's well known, secretive modus operandi.

The campaign so far, is conspicuous not by what Stephen Harper says, but by what he doesn't say.

It's a coincidence that Harper called the election just before the U.S. financial meltdown, because the adverse affects have already started percolating down. The inevitable decline of the American dollar will take our Canadian currency into the Global basement with it, and our buying power in Canada will diminish. Already Canadians with investments are feeling the pinch and confidence in the market is on the decline.

Perhaps someone made a phone call to Stephen Harper in early September to warn him what was coming, and if he wanted to call an election he had better do it quickly, so the Conservatives could avoid the public backlash, which will begin soon. But thankfully for Harper, he will likely have another four-year mandate from the unsuspecting public by then.

The media pundits are still scratching their heads about the election call; there must have been a compelling reason for Harper to break a promise to only call an election on a fixed date. Ironically, he had made this change to create "transparency" in government. Oh well, we can't expect "transparency" all the time, can we? Especially when it doesn't suit the government.

The fact is that Harper has downplayed the economy, and as a sitting prime minister, is ingenuous in his refusal to initiate and talk about an economic plan that Canada will need over the next 2 to 3 years or longer, in responding to what the media and news websites are saying is the "greatest financial crisis in the United States since the Great Depression." But our Prime Minister says that we in Canada have a modest surplus, and not to worry?

Related to the above issue and one that has also been secretly advanced under the radar is the SPP, or the Security and Prosperity Partnership well into its fourth year of planning. Readers might remember the big conference in Montebello, Quebec last year when Bush and Calderon met with Harper.

There was typical "Conservative" secrecy at the conference and no media were allowed to participate. When interviewed, Prime Minister Harper said the conference was all about "the export rules for jellybeans" and condemned people like myself for asking tough questions. Basically, Harper laughed in the face of all Canadians when he made this remark!
I can tell you what the SPP is all about because I have written about it on my website, (link deleted) , and refer to it as the upcoming North American Union, which is what it is designed to become.

It will mean that Canada will be part of the North American Union by 2010, similar to the European Union, and that our resources and agricultural, health and environment issues, to name a few, will be controlled not by Canada, but by the government of the North American Union, likely to be housed in the United States.

I believe absolutely that the North American Union will bring about the greatest challenges that we have experienced so far in our life times here in Canada, and it is deplorable that there has been absolutely no public discussion on the issue. The NDP have made token attempts to mention it in committee, but have taken the cowardly way out and refused to make it an election issue.

If our citizenry allows the North American Union to come into existence, then our way of life will change drastically. With privatization of our resources, increased foreign ownership, and a Canadian government in name only, we will become 'North Americans' and our sovereignty will be forever lost. You don't think that will happen?

The new North American currency has already been designed and is ready to go. It's called the "Amero" and is the brainchild of the Council on Foreign Relations in the U.S.

As the financial crisis deepens in the U.S. people will cry out for a government solution, and lo and behold, one will appear- the NAU and a new currency to get North America on its feet again!
In the meantime we're wasting a lot of taxpayers' money to run an unnecessary and irrelevant election so the Conservatives can batten down the hatches for the next 4 years and tell us that they knew nothing about the imminent changes facing Canada.

---

Related articles:

Cost of Afghan war will reach $20.7-billion, group says (October 9, 2008)
(link deleted)

OTTAWA - The real cost of the Afghan war will reach $20.7-billion before Canadian troops leave in 2011, according to an Ottawa-based foreign affairs organization, the Rideau Institute. That tally includes not only the direct costs of deploying Canadian soldiers and equipment to Afghanistan, but the broader costs of health care, disability payments and the salaries of soldiers. The left-leaning group's estimate was released on the eve of a formal reporting on the cost of the mission to be issued by Canada's new parliamentary budget officer, Kevin Page - a report that could throw an unexpected twist into the election campaign. If Mr. Page finds the cost of the mission is significantly higher than the $8.1-billion so far identified in government estimates, it is likely to fuel charges that the mission is too expensive, and that Canadians have been kept in the dark about the true price tag. CLIP

'Not just dressing it up with a sweater' (October 6, 2008)
(link deleted)

A group of Canadian artists have tracked a new song they're calling the "Stop Harper" anthem, designed to inspire voters to turn away from the Conservatives on election day.The song called You Have a Choice was recorded by several musicians including K-OS, Ed Robertson from Barenaked Ladies, Jason Collett and Sarah Harmer, plus musicians from Billy Talent and Three Days Grace.The artists hope to draw attention to an online campaign ( link deleted) aimed at convincing Canadians to help the environment by voting for the candidate in their riding that is most likely to defeat the Conservatives. (...) The song includes lyrics that encourage Canadians to get to the polls Oct. 14, suggesting every vote against the Tories will make a difference for the environment. One line also pokes fun at Conservative Leader Stephen Harper for trying to project a warm and fuzzy image in TV commercials by wearing a blue sweater. "The spark for this people-powered movement, more than anything else, seems to be Prime Minister Harper's shockingly irresponsible record on climate change," says Ricken Patel, the co-founder of Avaaz Canada."We've seen under this prime minister's leadership a dismantling of Canada's finest traditions of good global citizenship." The song includes lyrics that encourage people to go to the polls Oct. 14, suggesting every vote against the Tories will make a difference for the environment. One line in the lyrics also pokes fun at Mr. Harper's campaign image, telling listeners "We can change things for the better, not just dressing it up with a sweater" - a reference to the blue sweater vest Mr. Harper wore in some of the Conservative TV ads aired in the early days of campaigning. CLIP
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
Grizzled Old Goat

User ID: 260950
United States
10/11/2008 12:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
No disrespect intended - but this is an idiotic post..
Canuck  (OP)

User ID: 522355
Canada
10/11/2008 12:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
No disrespect intended - but this is an idiotic post..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat



What a surprise!!! Mr. Harper's star supporter!!!!!

This is for information only, each will interpret it as they see fit. I've seen more idiotic threads on this forum.

Have a great thanksgiving!!!
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
Grizzled Old Goat

User ID: 260950
United States
10/11/2008 12:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
No disrespect intended - but this is an idiotic post..



What a surprise!!! Mr. Harper's star supporter!!!!!

This is for information only, each will interpret it as they see fit. I've seen more idiotic threads on this forum.

Have a great thanksgiving!!!
 Quoting: Canuck


Well, Harper is NOT an idiot - if he had prior knowledge, would he have called an election RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT?
Normal Is Subjective

User ID: 512311
Canada
10/11/2008 12:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
Only if he's been lurking on GLP for a few years, like all world leaders he's only "officially" told enough to maintain plausible deniability.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 515251
United States
10/11/2008 01:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
No! It is the truth! Everyone that reads this should make a copy and pass it on! This info is being erased off the internet.

North American Union: Treaty and Treason

July 12, 2006 – A treaty is a written agreement between two or more states or sovereign nations that articulates mutually agreed upon goals or objectives.[1] A treaty can also be described as a formal agreement between sovereign nations to create or restrict rights and responsibilities. In the United States, all treaties must be approved by two-thirds vote in the United States Senate.[2]


A joint statement is also a written agreement between two or more states or sovereign nations that articulates mutually agreed upon goals or objectives. When President Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the Treaty of Moscow on June 1, 2003, a Russian-U.S. treaty on strategic reductions, Vladimir Putin twice referred to the treaty as a joint statement.[3]



In Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005, President Bush, Mexican President Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Martin gathered at a meeting orchestrated by the ruinous Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and issued a joint statement to announce the establishment of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPPNA).[4]


Article II of the Constitution for the United States defines and limits presidential powers. Regarding treaties, Article II Section 2 states:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur;

According to the U.S. Senate, in addition to treaties, which may not enter into force and become binding on the United States without the advice and consent of the Senate, there are other types of international agreements concluded by the executive branch and are not submitted to the Senate. These are classified in the United States as executive agreements, not as treaties – a distinction that has only domestic significance. International law regards each mode of international agreement as binding, whatever its designation under domestic law.[5]

The lack of significant distinctions between treaties, joint statements, and executive agreements raises serious questions. Can the President of the United States enter into a treaty without the advice and consent of the United States Senate simply by calling the treaty an executive agreement or joint statement? What elements of an executive agreement or joint statement elevate either to a treaty regardless of what the President might be calling the written agreement? Is a joint statement or executive agreement not a treaty simply because it does not have the consent of the U.S. Senate? Isn’t it possible then for the President of the United States, particularly the current President, to bypass the U.S. Senate and do whatever he pleases in regard to entering agreements with other nations, simply by labeling what it is that he is doing as a joint statement or executive agreement? By issuing a joint statement called the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, has President Bush entered into a treaty without U.S. Senate consent?


The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPPNA) is known on the street by another name - the North American Union. Also described as North American Integration, the entire treasonous scheme has been devised and delivered into emerging policy by the depraved Council on Foreign Relations. The CFR is the ruling elite of the United States and beyond. It is a Rockefeller brain trust, which means it is dedicated to central banking and international financiers that hold no loyalty or regard for national sovereignty. Controlling the world’s money supply is their only objective because the cartel knows that if they control the money supply, there is no need to worry about the people that are making the laws. Its origin is as devilish as the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.



Founded in 1921 by bankers and industrialists, the CFR is the invisible government of the global money power. In its mission statement, the CFR refers to its influence as its legendary convening power[6]. Once you comprehend what the ruling elite at the CFR is planning for the United States, Mexico, and Canada; what is being planned for an estimated 440 million people by less than 100 ruling elitists, you’ll have to decide for yourself whether the word legendary should be replaced with diabolical, or even, satanic.



Before defining exactly what the goals are of the CFR promoted – North American Union, it must be emphasized that George W. Bush has already agreed to the agenda. Treason is a crime that undermines the offender’s government, a betraying of one’s country, disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior.[7]



The Atlanta Roundtable, a CFR – North American Union working group, held its second session on October 17, 2001 to discuss the future of North American integration in the wake of September 11th 2001. Gordan D. Giffin and Robert A. Pastor led the discussion.[8] The transcript of this meeting reveals that Mexican President Vicente Fox met with President Bush on September 4, 2001 and proposed the legalizing of anywhere from three to seven million Mexican illegal immigrants in the United States. Based on 2001 estimates of Mexican illegal immigrants living in the United States, the seven million represented all of them. Today the number of illegal Mexican immigrants living in the U.S. is estimated at eleven million. The goal of the North American Union is to legalize all of them. This North American Union goal is validated by the inability of the U.S. Senate to develop any meaningful immigration reform legislation that fulfills the American public’s demand that all illegal immigrants be deported, and prevented from re-entry into the United States by firmly securing the United States - Mexico border. It should be clear to American voters that the U.S. Senate answers to the CFR, and not the people.



The Atlanta Roundtable also discussed the necessity of deepening or widening the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). In January 1994, Canada, Mexico, and the United States launched NAFTA. NAFTA is the catalyst for the North American Union, which demonstrates once again the methodology of persistent erosion of sovereignty through the presentation and passage of agreements that create the infrastructure for long term, hidden agendas to flourish. It also reveals the fact that trilateralists have infiltrated the two-part, political juggernaut known as the Democratic and Republican Parties; meaning that it makes no difference which party is in control of the White House or U.S. Congress.



If the politician is loyal to, or owned by, the CFR, AIPAC, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, or the Order of Skull and Bones, it makes little difference if they say they are a democrat or republican, or if they claim that Jesus Christ changed their heart. And make no mistake about it – any public representative that has prominence and influence is already owned by elements of the aforementioned conglomeration.



Speaking of NAFTA and the CFR master goals in his article, NAFTA Superhighway Begins Construction Next Year[9], retired Air Force Lt. Col. Joe Kress wrote:



No doubt, many key politicians, government bureaucrats and key Non-Government Organizations elite players were fully aware of this end run, but few in the general public even now have a clue that all this discussion about open borders is of little consequence, since the trilateralists headed by the Ford, Carter, H.W. Bush Administrations, the Clinton Administration und auch das Führer George W. gemeingefährlich Verwaltung are facilitators for their masters’ goals through this key component of physically linking a mega-highway from the tip of Chili to the northern most points of commerce in Canada. The long planned purpose is to implement the New World Order of borderless countries throughout the hemispheres.



The NAFTA Superhighway is another element of the North American Union treaty that is already underway.



One of the Atlanta Roundtable’s key talking points regarding NAFTA was that its limits have been reached. The CFR solution is the creation of an institution that thinks about NAFTA problems in a trilateral way. If the idea of a trilateral institution doesn’t alarm you – it should. What the CFR is talking about is a trilateral government that could and eventually would have the authority to trump the existing government’s of Canada, Mexico, and the United States.



There are many ruling elitists who are masterminding the destruction of the United States via the North American Union, but two people taking lead roles are Robert Pastor and Gordon Giffin, with Pastor appearing to be at the forefront. At the October 17, 2001 Atlanta Roundtable, Pastor recommended:



* A single North American parliamentary group
o Translation – a government above the U.S. government
* A customs union that establishes a common external tariff and removes customs requirement between the countries
o Translation – the common external tariff takes money from the individual countries and funds the super-government parliamentary group
* A perimeter formula that would put together a North American core of immigration and customs law enforcement officers
o Translation – Trilateral Police Force that answers to a higher authority coupled with immigration laws and powers being stripped from the United States and turned over to the super-government parliamentary group
* A North American Development Fund so that all three countries contribute a proportion of their wealth to help with education and building infrastructure in Mexico
o Translation – Run for your guns because Robert Pastor wants U.S. wealth to be redistributed to Mexico.

Giffin recommended:



* Enhance the movement of a legitimate person so that more time can be spent on the illegitimate person. We need to document people and goods so that they move more quickly, i.e. a North American Pass that requires a cursory background check.
o Translation – Run to the bullet store because Gordon Giffin wants every U.S. citizen to be issued “papers” so that law enforcement can check your “passes” whenever you are out in public. He also wants all of Canada and Mexico to have the same passes as you and I so that Canadians, Mexicans, and Americans can freely enter each others countries

Remember, these Atlanta Roundtable recommendations were made on October 17, 2001 - almost five years ago. What has transpired since that time? In the SPPNA joint statement released by Bush, Fox, and Martin on March 23, 2005, the three trilateralist leaders stated:



* Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. must develop new avenues of cooperation that will make our open societies safer and more secure
* A trilateral effort to increase the security, prosperity, and quality of life of our citizens is needed
* Security and prosperity are mutually dependent
* Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. must consolidate our efforts within a North American framework
* Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. must reduce regional disparities and increase opportunity for all.
* Streamline the secure and efficient movement of legitimate, low-risk traffic across our shared borders
* Establish working parties led by our ministers and secretaries that will consult with stakeholders in our respective countries

The American voter isn’t a stakeholder – only the ruling elite. Obviously, the joint statement is intentionally ambiguous. It can be interpreted many different ways. However, remember it is the CFR that is behind this treasonous scheme. Let’s take a look at how the joint statement translates when Robert A. Pastor testified before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee on June 9, 2005 – approximately 10 weeks after President Bush entered the United States into the joint statement.



Pastor’s testimony before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee was titled, A North American Community Approach to Security.[10] In his testimony, Pastor refers to a recent report by an Independent Task Force on the Future of North America sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. He indicated that the Independent Task Force was a three nation, 31-person Task Force. Think about it! 31 people assigned to a task force to determine the fate of 440 million people – the combined population of Canada, Mexico, and the United States. Pastor referred to the Task Force report as a blueprint of the goals the three countries of North America should pursue and the steps needed to achieve those goals.



Here’s what Robert A. Pastor had to say while testifying before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee on June 9, 2005:



* The best way to assure security is not at our borders with Canada and Mexico and not by defining “security” in conventional and narrow terms
* What we need to do now is forge a North American Community, based on the premise that each member benefits from its neighbor’s success and is diminished by its problems
* Instead of stopping North Americans (Americans, Canadians, Mexicans) on the borders, we ought to provide them with secure, biometric Border Pass that would ease transit across the border like an E-Z pass permits our cars to speed through toll booths
* NAFTA has failed to create partnership because North American governments have not changed the way they deal with one another. Dual bilateralism, driven by U.S. power, continues to govern and irritate. Adding a third party to bilateral disputes vastly increases the chances that rules, not power, will resolve problems

If the best way to assure the security of the United States is not at our borders with Canada and Mexico, which borders does the CFR think we should secure? The truth is that the ultimate goal is One World Government with no borders – only papers and police state actions to oppress the masses into brutal submission to a higher authority. However, for the time being, the CFR is going to convince the public through their media mockingbirds that to secure the United States, we should secure the perimeters of North America. I hope you can smell how the War on Terror and 9/11 are once again going to take away more of your individual freedom, liberty, property, and sovereignty. Too many beneficial outcomes have occurred for the New World Order and One World Government as a result of 9/11 to believe any longer that 19 Islamic Extremists armed with box cutters are solely responsible for the “War on Terror.” The U.S. Congress might want to step back and investigate, from a hidden agenda / outcome, profit-motive perspective, all that has happened in U.S. policy since 2000 because the ruling elite has yet to provide any sustainable explanation as to how 9/11 actually unfolded. What they have provided is theory that has yet to be backed up by sustainable evidence or facts. For instance, when studying the cause of collapse of the twin towers, a $5 stopwatch is all that is required to disprove the government’s multi-million dollar pancake theory of collapse.



Be advised: Biometric EZ Passes set the stage for the government to have the ability to invalidate your identification until you come in compliance with the government. Step out of line, question authority, resist the police state, and you will be cut off from the only vehicle in which you can function in a Biometric EZ Pass Society. No doubt, Pastor would say that this is not his vision of the Biometric EZ Pass, but rest assured, a single, trilateral identification would rapidly become the de facto, all-purpose passport, identification, license, bank card subject to government revocation.



When Pastor recommended to the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee that what was needed was a third party to oversee the interaction between Canada, Mexico, and the United States, he is in fact speaking of a higher authority that will eventually have the power to trump and dictate policy to the puppet governments that will be allowed to remain solely for appearances sake to deceive the people into believing that they still live in a sovereign nation – when they will not! This third party government will not emerge initially as all-powerful. That’s not how the ruling elite accomplishes their malicious agendas. It will start out slowly – insignificantly. It might even appear to be useful at first. But overtime, if it is allowed to fertilize now, it will eventually gain all the power it desires, much in the same way the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 has morphed into something far more hideous than its original evil.



Pastor continues:



* This trilateral approach should be institutionalized in a new North American Advisory Council
* The Commission or Council should be lean, independent, and advisory, composed of 15 distinguished individuals – 5 from each nation
* Its principal purpose should be to prepare a North American agenda
* It should evaluate ways to facilitate economic integration, producing specific proposals on continental issues such as harmonizing environmental and labor standards and forging a competition policy

Facilitate economic integration? Harmonize environmental and labor standards? Forge a competition policy? Call it what you must but these are fancy phrases for socialism and communism! A trilateral competition policy will not enhance competition. It will eliminate as much of it as possible so that only the ruling elite get richer. It’s just the way these despicable elitists work! The CFR and its supporters must be stopped. Remember, President Bush has already signed onto the concept of a North American Union. So has the U.S. Senate. Many covert activities are also taking place behind the scenes right now to make this damnable union materialize.



The suspect outcome of the recent presidential election in Mexico is another example of the power and reach of the ruling elite, and demonstrates the lengths it will go to achieve its objectives. Trilateralist candidate, Felipe Calderon, described as the conservative candidate and Bush favorite, reportedly defeated Andres Manaul Lopez Obrador by a very narrow margin. Obrador was opposed to the North American Union. Calderon supports the CFR agenda. The conservative Calderon is said to have collected 402,000 more votes than Bush-bashing Obrador. However, Investigative Reporter, Greg Palast, in his article, Senor Blank-o wins in Mexico, reports that mysteriously, there are 827,000 Mexican ballots without any mark whatsoever for president.[11] Palast smells a rat and so does the Muckraker Report. In his article Palast said, “As soon as I saw the “official” vote count, I booked a plane to Mexico City. I’ll be there tomorrow to join our investigators on the ground – and to fill in the blanks.” Please visit Greg Palast’s web site to follow his reporting on this topic.



Stealing elections by purging voter eligibility is a top tier tactic of the ruling elite. Your vote counts only if they decide your vote counts! See voter eligibility irregularities in Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 to understand this tactic. Creating chaos, fear, economic uncertainties, and war is also part of the ruling elite playbook. The goal is to herd the masses into a state of desperate compliance with oppressive government. Just look at what Americans willingly surrendered to the ruling elite to get out of the Great Depression that the ruling elite created!



This is not a drill! This is as real as it gets and it is happening as we speak. The only thing that can stop it is the emergence of thousands of aggressive pockets of resistance that refuse to surrender. We the People must counter-attack using all disposable means. Your state legislators are still assessable. They must be educated on this treasonous scheme immediately and driven to take action to prevent your state from being part of the North American Union. The state has the inherent right to withdrawal from the Union if the federal government signs over any of its sovereignty to a trilateral commission.



Never give up!

[1] WordNet, Define: treaty, [link to wordnet.princeton.edu] [Accessed July 9, 2006]

[2] New Mexico Public Education Department, Define: treaty, [link to www.nmlites.org] [Accessed July 9, 2006]

[3] The White House, Office of the Press Secretary, President Bush, Russian President Putin Sign Treaty of Moscow, June 1, 2003, [link to www.whitehouse.gov] [Accessed July 9, 2006]

[4] Mexidata, Media Watch Waco, Joint Statement by President Bush, President Fox, and Prime Minister Martin, March 23, 2005, [link to www.mexidata.info] [Accessed July 9, 2006]

[5] United States Senate, Treaties, [link to www.senate.gov] [Accessed July 9, 2006]

[6] Council on Foreign Relations, Mission Statement, [link to www.cfr.org] [Accessed July 10, 2006]

[7] Google, define: treason, [link to www.google.com] [Accessed July 9, 2006]

[8] Council on Foreign Relations, The Future of North American Integration in the Wake of the Terrorist Attacks, October 17, 2001, [link to www.cfr.org] [Accessed July 4, 2006]

[9] News with Views, NAFTA Superhighway Begins Construction Next Year, Joe Kress, July 4, 2006, [link to www.newswithviews.com] [Accessed July 10, 2006]

[10] Council on Foreign Relations, A North American Community Approach to Security, Robert A. Pastor, June 9, 2005, [link to www.cfr.org] [Accessed July 4, 2006]

[11] Greg Palast, Senor Blank-o wins in Mexico, July 6, 2006, [link to www.gregpalast.com] [Accessed July 7, 2006]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519342
Canada
10/11/2008 01:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
Harpers a twit, if he had his way our banks would have been deregulated and the large mergers would have happeneed and Canada's banks would be in the same boat as the states banks.
Normal Is Subjective

User ID: 512311
Canada
10/11/2008 01:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
No disrespect intended - but this is an idiotic post..



What a surprise!!! Mr. Harper's star supporter!!!!!

This is for information only, each will interpret it as they see fit. I've seen more idiotic threads on this forum.

Have a great thanksgiving!!!


Well, Harper is NOT an idiot - if he had prior knowledge, would he have called an election RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT?
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


C'mon GOG, I'm sure his Finance Minister has been reading the tealeaves on this topic for quite some time and as for timing - it's the old politics of fear.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
Canuck  (OP)

User ID: 522355
Canada
10/11/2008 01:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
No disrespect intended - but this is an idiotic post..



What a surprise!!! Mr. Harper's star supporter!!!!!

This is for information only, each will interpret it as they see fit. I've seen more idiotic threads on this forum.

Have a great thanksgiving!!!


Well, Harper is NOT an idiot - if he had prior knowledge, would he have called an election RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT?
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat



Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he an economist????

You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see what has been coming on for the last few years. . . hello???
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 515251
United States
10/11/2008 01:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
Harpers a twit, if he had his way our banks would have been deregulated and the large mergers would have happeneed and Canada's banks would be in the same boat as the states banks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519342


Here's the point.
They will be.
Canuck  (OP)

User ID: 522355
Canada
10/11/2008 01:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
Only if he's been lurking on GLP for a few years, like all world leaders he's only "officially" told enough to maintain plausible deniability.
 Quoting: Normal Is Subjective


How convenient. . . .

Well in that case why don't we just elect Mickey Mouse or Bullwinkle the Moose as leader of this country?

Do you really think he's that uninformed???? He's elected to be informed and to lead our country on the right path.

Wake UP folks, all is not as it seems.
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
<> <>
User ID: 523479
Switzerland
10/11/2008 01:11 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
HARPER IS NWO EVIL TO THE CORE...FROM THE 1ST SECOND I EVER SAW HIM I COULD SEE THE SPIRIT CONTROLLING HIM.

HE IS COMPLETELY IN BED WITH BUSH AND WE ALL KNOW THAT.

MEGALOMANIAC STOCKWELL DAY WOULD HAVE TAKEN US BACK 50 YEARS,BUT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN A BETTER POSITION THAN WE ARE NOW.

GOOD BYE CANADA!!!
Canuck  (OP)

User ID: 522355
Canada
10/11/2008 01:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
Harpers a twit, if he had his way our banks would have been deregulated and the large mergers would have happeneed and Canada's banks would be in the same boat as the states banks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519342



Stay tuned AC, CIBC might be the first to disappear. . . .
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
Normal Is Subjective

User ID: 512311
Canada
10/11/2008 01:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
Only if he's been lurking on GLP for a few years, like all world leaders he's only "officially" told enough to maintain plausible deniability.


How convenient. . . .

Well in that case why don't we just elect Mickey Mouse or Bullwinkle the Moose as leader of this country?

Do you really think he's that uninformed???? He's elected to be informed and to lead our country on the right path.

Wake UP folks, all is not as it seems.
 Quoting: Canuck


That was my point fellow Canuck, what he's aware of on an official level differs vastly from his personal musings.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
Canuck  (OP)

User ID: 522355
Canada
10/11/2008 01:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
Only if he's been lurking on GLP for a few years, like all world leaders he's only "officially" told enough to maintain plausible deniability.


How convenient. . . .

Well in that case why don't we just elect Mickey Mouse or Bullwinkle the Moose as leader of this country?

Do you really think he's that uninformed???? He's elected to be informed and to lead our country on the right path.

Wake UP folks, all is not as it seems.


That was my point fellow Canuck, what he's aware of on an official level differs vastly from his personal musings.
 Quoting: Normal Is Subjective



Sorry Normal, thought you were making excuses for him . ..

I've just never trusted this man and can't put a finger on the exact reason why. . . .

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!!!
hf
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
Normal Is Subjective

User ID: 512311
Canada
10/11/2008 01:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
Only if he's been lurking on GLP for a few years, like all world leaders he's only "officially" told enough to maintain plausible deniability.


How convenient. . . .

Well in that case why don't we just elect Mickey Mouse or Bullwinkle the Moose as leader of this country?

Do you really think he's that uninformed???? He's elected to be informed and to lead our country on the right path.

Wake UP folks, all is not as it seems.


That was my point fellow Canuck, what he's aware of on an official level differs vastly from his personal musings.



Sorry Normal, thought you were making excuses for him . ..

I've just never trusted this man and can't put a finger on the exact reason why. . . .

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!!!
hf
 Quoting: Canuck


I couldn't come up with credible excuses for Harper if my life depended on it, that said, I don't hate the man. From what I've seen and heard from most world leaders in 50+ years he's just another disposable sheep in the elite flock and when the time comes he'll be shorn and rendered with the rest.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours too, mon frere beaver,
tryptophan bender!! 5a
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
Normal Is Subjective

User ID: 512311
Canada
10/11/2008 01:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
P.S. Canuck, I assume too much, maybe it's mon fils?
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
Canuck  (OP)

User ID: 522355
Canada
10/11/2008 04:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DID STEPHEN HARPER HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FINANCE CRISIS?
P.S. Canuck, I assume too much, maybe it's mon fils?
 Quoting: Normal Is Subjective


Normal,

That would be ma fille. Actually ma soeur is applicable in this case.

:)

Canuck
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)





GLP