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Dread Pirate Roberts
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The US-Canada border patrol is harassing trravelers 300 miles from the border! On routes that don't GO across any border!

travelers criticize Border Patrol inspection methods
[link to www.usatoday.com]
Three times in the past year, Border Patrol agents have approached Silvio Torres-Saillant in the Greyhound station in Syracuse, N.Y., as he purchased tickets or waited in the terminal.

Each time, they asked about his immigration status and citizenship, says the Syracuse University English professor, a naturalized U.S. citizen from the Dominican Republic.

"It's very likely they come to me because of how I look," he says. "The idea that there are some people who look more American than others is still very much alive."

Torres-Saillant is among an increasing number of people, legal and illegal, crossing paths with the Border Patrol well inside the border. The agency, with a beefed-up force, is increasing surprise inspections on buses, trains and ferries on routes that don't cross the border.

"If you have someone attempting to illegally enter the United States, it's very unlikely that they're going to stay 15 yards from the international border," says Jason Ciliberti, a supervisory agent in Washington, D.C. "We want to take a layered approach."

"What we do is target transportation nodes, places where people change trains or buses," says A.J. Price, spokesman for the Buffalo sector, which includes Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Erie, Pa. "Not only are we encountering criminals, nefarious individuals, people that have broken immigration laws, we're also sending a message that we're out there patrolling and looking."
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Its about FUCKING TIME!!!!! What the hell happens when the wets make it into the interior??? No one does jack shit and jack just left the room...
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Its about FUCKING TIME!!!!! What the hell happens when the wets make it into the interior??? No one does jack shit and jack just left the room...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 490986

well. that was pretty racist.

You must "look" American
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Its about FUCKING TIME!!!!! What the hell happens when the wets make it into the interior??? No one does jack shit and jack just left the room...

well. that was pretty racist.

You must "look" American
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts



Hey, I got my papers. If its good enough for almost every country on earth its damn good enough for Amerika. Do you want illegals stealing your jobs, your kids jobs, running wages down, and sucking off the tit of goverment funded by YOUR tax dollars???? I thought not...
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Its about FUCKING TIME!!!!! What the hell happens when the wets make it into the interior??? No one does jack shit and jack just left the room...

well. that was pretty racist.

You must "look" American

Hey, I got my papers. If its good enough for almost every country on earth its damn good enough for Amerika. Do you want illegals stealing your jobs, your kids jobs, running wages down, and sucking off the tit of goverment funded by YOUR tax dollars???? I thought not...
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I don't want to be harassed by police as I board a bus from Syracuse to Upper Molunkus, that's for sure.
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Its about FUCKING TIME!!!!! What the hell happens when the wets make it into the interior??? No one does jack shit and jack just left the room...

well. that was pretty racist.

You must "look" American
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

Good answer!! cheers

Btw, from what I'm reading, it's the American Border Patrol that's doing this, not the Canadians.

I live, in fact MOST Canadians live, within 300 miles of the border. Nothing's happening on this side...

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What the hell does a citizen look like assholes??? As far as I'm concerned they should check EVERYONE for papers - not only would it get the illegal scums out of our country but it would also clean the streets up from people who are wanted...
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Wherever they can get 'em is fine with me.

From Border Patrol Blotter, Sept 25 - Oct 1 :

Rio Grande Valley Sector - Border Patrol agents arrested a United States Citizen (USC) and seized 9 pounds of marijuana valued at $7,200 at the Falfurrias, Texas traffic checkpoint. The subject admitted to being a member of the Mara Salvatrucha 13 gang.

El Centro Sector - A Border Patrol agent arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Imperial, California. Records checks revealed the subject was previously deported from the United States and was convicted of sexual abuse in the State of Oregon.

El Paso Sector - Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Road Forks, New Mexico for transporting seven illegal aliens. Records checks revealed the subject was previously deported from the United States and was a convicted sex offender.

Tucson Sector - Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico south of Kaka, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject was convicted of sexual assault and was a registered sex offender in the State of Oregon.

Tucson Sector - Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Tucson, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject was previously deported from the United States and was convicted of sexual misconduct with a minor.

Rio Grande Valley Sector - Border Patrol agents arrested a USC, 50 illegal aliens, and seized a 2004 Freightliner tractor-trailer near Sarita, Texas. The USC presented himself and his tractor-trailer for inspection at a Border Patrol checkpoint. A Border Patrol canine alerted to the trailer and a subsequent search revealed 23 illegal aliens from China and 27 illegal aliens from Mexico.

Tucson Sector - Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Lukeville, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject was previously deported from the United States and was convicted of second degree murder with the use of a weapon in the State of California.

 [link to www.cbp.gov] 

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From the article:

"When he took the bus to and from Buffalo with his wife in December, Border Patrol agents boarded at a rest stop in Rochester. Each time, he says, they briefly questioned everyone, then removed a passenger they believed was in the country illegally."















Gestapo, anyone?
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Its about FUCKING TIME!!!!! What the hell happens when the wets make it into the interior??? No one does jack shit and jack just left the room...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 490986

Not nice kid.
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the concern here is not about illegals, another discussion entirely. It is "authorities" being stationed at the Canadian-American border now wanting to see your passport. Then, wanting to see papers from people traveling well inside the US. Then, demanding papers from people on busses, trains, and other conveyances that are NOT on border routes at all. Then, it's detaining people who have dark skin, or are acting suspiciously. Don't you see the trend? Next it's "legals" like you and me, minding their own business, just gettin' on a bus in Syracuse see Grandma in Utica. It's the creep, the creeping grab of authority to detain YOU for no reason. By that time, the time they come getcha, you'll have a whole lotta other things to worry about besides if the brown skinned guy sitting next to you is legal or not. By then, EVERYONE will be illegal. In their eyes. And you won't be able to do anything about it. Because you will be sitting in jail for mouthing off to the officer. In a gulag somewhere banging the bars that it's all really the "wets' fault".

sigh...
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Hey, I got my papers. If its good enough for almost every country on earth its damn good enough for Amerika. Do you want illegals stealing your jobs, your kids jobs, running wages down, and sucking off the tit of goverment funded by YOUR tax dollars???? I thought not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 490986

the modern "no-nothings"......fuck you prick!!!
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Gang members, sex offenders, smugglers, coyotes ... get 'em out. Wherever they are.
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Hey, I got my papers. If its good enough for almost every country on earth its damn good enough for Amerika. Do you want illegals stealing your jobs, your kids jobs, running wages down, and sucking off the tit of goverment funded by YOUR tax dollars???? I thought not...

the modern "no-nothings"......fuck you prick!!!
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited

I'm not happy about the racist anger evident in his post but please... with the language...?
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the concern here is not about illegals, another discussion entirely. It is "authorities" being stationed at the Canadian-American border now wanting to see your passport. Then, wanting to see papers from people traveling well inside the US. Then, demanding papers from people on busses, trains, and other conveyances that are NOT on border routes at all. Then, it's detaining people who have dark skin, or are acting suspiciously. Don't you see the trend? Next it's "legals" like you and me, minding their own business, just gettin' on a bus in Syracuse see Grandma in Utica. It's the creep, the creeping grab of authority to detain YOU for no reason. By that time, the time they come getcha, you'll have a whole lotta other things to worry about besides if the brown skinned guy sitting next to you is legal or not. By then, EVERYONE will be illegal. In their eyes. And you won't be able to do anything about it. Because you will be sitting in jail for mouthing off to the officer. In a gulag somewhere banging the bars that it's all really the "wets' fault".

sigh...
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

Agreed! sigh

As you can see from the answers to your thread, DPR, there's a LOT of ignorance and racism that tptb can use...


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It IS interesting that it's along your northern border though.

Not too many Mexicans trying to get into America from Canada, eh...
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From the article:

"When he took the bus to and from Buffalo with his wife in December, Border Patrol agents boarded at a rest stop in Rochester. Each time, he says, they briefly questioned everyone, then removed a passenger they believed was in the country illegally."

Gestapo, anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 156099

I didn't catch that. Thanks AC. Now I have chills.
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What the hell does a citizen look like assholes??? As far as I'm concerned they should check EVERYONE for papers - not only would it get the illegal scums out of our country but it would also clean the streets up from people who are wanted...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 490986

This is NOT Nazi Germany. They should be checking people who do look like they don't belong here. Not your average American citizen.

This is as foolish as bomb checkers scanning peoples bare feet at the airport or going thru an infant seat checking for bombs.
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Uh, OP ... "illegal alien" is not a race. It's not racist to criticize them.
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ambiguity unlimited .... An apt name for a condecending A-hole who DOESN'T 'KNOW' the difference between NO and KNOW !

I know ! You miss most of fifth grade because you had jury duty on a murder trial that lasted 5 months. SO sad !
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mopar .... Answer to the feet check at the airport is to NOT wash your feet for a MONTH before the flight AND don't change your socks EITHER !
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mopar .... Answer to the feet check at the airport is to NOT wash your feet for a MONTH before the flight AND don't change your socks EITHER !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515721

I haven't been on airplane since April of 1991 & I don't have any plans to get on one soon.

But I've heard that from other people who fly.
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ambiguity unlimited .... An apt name for a condecending A-hole who DOESN'T 'KNOW' the difference between NO and KNOW !

I know ! You miss most of fifth grade because you had jury duty on a murder trial that lasted 5 months. SO sad !
 Quoting: Dr. P ( On U ! ) 515721

it was no-nothings..as in no irish, no italians, no germans.... my grandfather had to deal with assholes like you over a century ago....they called themselves the "no-nothings".... it was an "america for americans" party, just like you modern shitheels....maybe you should have paid some attention in school.....it did make the history books





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