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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 09/18/2008 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are not a communist, why do you care? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 379014Live and let live. Separate religion from state and live morally and who cares what religion someone else is or is not. You almost have a point. So the opposite of religious is Communist? Funny how people's brain work. Or don't work. I would say the opposite of religious is being aware and reality based. And not using God as an excuse to bomb other countries or to run Presidential campaigns with platforms derived from the Ten Commandments. Why do we need religion gone? Because TPTB use religion to control, to keep people stupid and unaware, and to keep them believing that our leaders have our best interests at heart because they are fellow believers. It's a racket that has to go if we are to ever move forward. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 09/18/2008 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think we will ever be religion free. But the major Quoting: DrPostmanreligions will take one hell of a hit when we finally make contact with other civilizations in the galaxy or elsewhere. Their paradigm that humans are God's elites will take a big hit. I hope I live to see that day. But spirituality will always be with us. And many spiritual people will still feel the need to be organized with others. Why not? I agree that when it is finally obvious that we are not alone, then the pedantic and constrictive mindset of this planet that are based upon the assumption and the assertion that humans are "God's highest creation" should send tremors through the religious community. There will come a day though when the term spiritual will have no meaning as our connection and commonality with all that is will replace that inner urge to worship, revere and believe in things unknown. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 504677 United Kingdom 09/18/2008 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think we will ever be religion free. But the major Quoting: DrPostmanreligions will take one hell of a hit when we finally make contact with other civilizations in the galaxy or elsewhere. Their paradigm that humans are God's elites will take a big hit. I hope I live to see that day. But spirituality will always be with us. And many spiritual people will still feel the need to be organized with others. Why not? There is plenty of evidence of life on other planets in scripture ,art,architecture etc,etc depends where your looking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 379014 United States 09/18/2008 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are not a communist, why do you care? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166Live and let live. Separate religion from state and live morally and who cares what religion someone else is or is not. You almost have a point. So the opposite of religious is Communist? Funny how people's brain work. Or don't work. I would say the opposite of religious is being aware and reality based. And not using God as an excuse to bomb other countries or to run Presidential campaigns with platforms derived from the Ten Commandments. Why do we need religion gone? Because TPTB use religion to control, to keep people stupid and unaware, and to keep them believing that our leaders have our best interests at heart because they are fellow believers. It's a racket that has to go if we are to ever move forward. Noone should care what religion someone else is!!! It is absolutely non sequitor. It is morality and maintaining decorum in society that makes a society and when that breaks down that is where problems arise from. Again, live and let live. People who have a problem with religious freedom are people who have an agenda, and are obviously PAID to make issue of forever harping on various religions. My question? Why would anybody other than a communist care? |
The_Venerable User ID: 412220 United States 09/18/2008 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think we will ever be religion free. But the major Quoting: DrPostmanreligions will take one hell of a hit when we finally make contact with other civilizations in the galaxy or elsewhere. Their paradigm that humans are God's elites will take a big hit. I hope I live to see that day. But spirituality will always be with us. And many spiritual people will still feel the need to be organized with others. Why not? You speak of pseudo-religion, not actual religion. As for the question posed in the thread, not as long as I'm alive. |
voice User ID: 506071 United States 09/18/2008 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if Christians had their own planet - how long would they continue to believe what they believe? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166All of the planets in our solar system are inhabited by "Ethereal" beings: They are of a higher frequency, so we don't see them; however, they live in 'crimeless' societies with little need for "religions"....... But you must earn your place among these societies, before you will be accepted! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 09/18/2008 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are not a communist, why do you care? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 379014Live and let live. Separate religion from state and live morally and who cares what religion someone else is or is not. You almost have a point. So the opposite of religious is Communist? Funny how people's brain work. Or don't work. I would say the opposite of religious is being aware and reality based. And not using God as an excuse to bomb other countries or to run Presidential campaigns with platforms derived from the Ten Commandments. Why do we need religion gone? Because TPTB use religion to control, to keep people stupid and unaware, and to keep them believing that our leaders have our best interests at heart because they are fellow believers. It's a racket that has to go if we are to ever move forward. Noone should care what religion someone else is!!! It is absolutely non sequitor. It is morality and maintaining decorum in society that makes a society and when that breaks down that is where problems arise from. Again, live and let live. People who have a problem with religious freedom are people who have an agenda, and are obviously PAID to make issue of forever harping on various religions. My question? Why would anybody other than a communist care? OK, I'll hit the ball lower so it doesn't go over your head. Religious freedom is fine. Religious seepage into all areas of society aimed at passing laws or repealing laws that affect all of us is a problem. The nature of Christianity is to spread and to infect. That is its nature and its mission. It seeks to legalize its own version of morality, which is pretty cut and dry. Would you like to live under Sharia law, as an example? In countries where religion is allowed to dominate the culture, there is an unavoidable evolution toward extremism. If Christians had their way, we would be praying over our groceries at the supermarket as the bagger put them in the bag. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 09/18/2008 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if Christians had their own planet - how long would they continue to believe what they believe? Quoting: voice 506071All of the planets in our solar system are inhabited by "Ethereal" beings: They are of a higher frequency, so we don't see them; however, they live in 'crimeless' societies with little need for "religions"....... But you must earn your place among these societies, before you will be accepted! I accept what you say. And when you use the term "earn" , I understand it to mean that you must be of a similar vibration to coexist in harmony. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 09/18/2008 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What part of separation of church and state did you not understand? Oh, by-the-by, feel free to serve that ball as high as you would like my friend :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 379014The separation of church and state is best exemplified by the levy system in New Orleans. How much of the current Presidential campaign has been a dog and pony show about religion, wacko pastors, is he really a Muslim? The grilling of O'Bama at the Saddle Back Church with that clone Rick Warren? Religion precedes/predominates/precludes debate in this country. |
Wingedlion User ID: 506070 United States 09/18/2008 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are not a communist, why do you care? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166Live and let live. Separate religion from state and live morally and who cares what religion someone else is or is not. You almost have a point. So the opposite of religious is Communist? Funny how people's brain work. Or don't work. I would say the opposite of religious is being aware and reality based. And not using God as an excuse to bomb other countries or to run Presidential campaigns with platforms derived from the Ten Commandments. Why do we need religion gone? Because TPTB use religion to control, to keep people stupid and unaware, and to keep them believing that our leaders have our best interests at heart because they are fellow believers. It's a racket that has to go if we are to ever move forward. If that is what you truly believe, then you have succumbed to the Powers that be mind control programming. Freemasons and nearly every occult secret society has tried and planned to eliminate Religion. All Religions, regardless of what merit that they hold. They see it as a stumbling block to their plans. If this is what you also believe, then you have been programmed by their mind control techniques and are on the first step to being a slave. The real question should be, why get rid of them? TPTB do not want religions because they morally restrain a society, and they want to be morally free from any moral restraint. That is the meaning of Free-masonry. To say that "religion" is a control mechinism, you give way too much creedence to religion. And people haven't used religions to start wars for thousands of years.( again, mind control programming) The hope is on this mind controlled programming, is that if enough people start to believe this crap that religion is the monster that they make it out to be, that it will be removed from society. (just as you propose) But that will never happen. Every man has inside of them a desire to be like God or to find God. This has been true since man began. You cannot erase so deeply seated a desire in mankind to find God; it just will not happen. But every tyrant, communist, Satanist, and atheist has dreamed of the day. A pipe dream as it is. it will never happen, never! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 09/18/2008 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, that was well written and well delivered. It was exactly what I would expect, but that's OK. I won't try to challenge you, for your response would be just as scripted, and so a waste of time from my perspective. You say people are not mind controlled by religion. OK, so sit back and close your eyes and imagine a candidate running for President who got on national TV and said: "I am not religious. I belong to no religion or ever will. I see it all as glorified mythology. The God of the Christian bible is an invention to placate and to control. I place my faith in the universe and the intelligence from whence it originated." Tell me the reaction would not be overwhelming and negative - to the point of violent - and that he or she would lose all chance of winning. Not that people are mind controlled or anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 504677 United Kingdom 09/18/2008 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, that was well written and well delivered. It was exactly what I would expect, but that's OK. I won't try to challenge you, for your response would be just as scripted, and so a waste of time from my perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166You say people are not mind controlled by religion. OK, so sit back and close your eyes and imagine a candidate running for President who got on national TV and said: "I am not religious. I belong to no religion or ever will. I see it all as glorified mythology. The God of the Christian bible is an invention to placate and to control. I place my faith in the universe and the intelligence from whence it originated." Tell me the reaction would not be overwhelming and negative - to the point of violent - and that he or she would lose all chance of winning. Not that people are mind controlled or anything. This is the secret, this is what god would like everyone to do "Just give up all forms of religion and surrender unto me." Go figure ? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 09/18/2008 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You speak of pseudo-religion, not actual religion. Quoting: DrPostmanI was addressing the Big Five, of which Buddhism and Hinduism are best suited to survive first contact. I have no problem with religion as long as you don't tell me what to believe. I have my own religion and it's membership is restricted to just me, and my God. I regard Hinduism as the only "true" religion in that it has no clear beginning - it is said it is as old as the planet itself - it teaches that it doesn't matter what religion you choose - that all fingers pint to the same moon - that the wheel of life unites all - that we go in and out of form and up a staircase to enlightenment or samadhi. Now, as no religion can be viewed as being better based upon its adherents, it is understood that Hindus are not, in and of themselves perhaps the best representatives of Hinduism - as they are just as clueless in many ways as the rest of humanity - Because..... It is all about consciousness. And what people believe does not make then necessarily more aware. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 504677 United Kingdom 09/18/2008 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You speak of pseudo-religion, not actual religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166I was addressing the Big Five, of which Buddhism and Hinduism are best suited to survive first contact. I have no problem with religion as long as you don't tell me what to believe. I have my own religion and it's membership is restricted to just me, and my God. I regard Hinduism as the only "true" religion in that it has no clear beginning - it is said it is as old as the planet itself - it teaches that it doesn't matter what religion you choose - that all fingers pint to the same moon - that the wheel of life unites all - that we go in and out of form and up a staircase to enlightenment or samadhi. Now, as no religion can be viewed as being better based upon its adherents, it is understood that Hindus are not, in and of themselves perhaps the best representatives of Hinduism - as they are just as clueless in many ways as the rest of humanity - Your so right many hindus are not good representatives. I regard swami praphupad ( Founder of Hare Krsna's) one of the best examples how someone should follow the vedic scriptures. Because..... It is all about consciousness. And what people believe does not make then necessarily more aware. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 117166 United States 09/18/2008 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You speak of pseudo-religion, not actual religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 504677I was addressing the Big Five, of which Buddhism and Hinduism are best suited to survive first contact. I have no problem with religion as long as you don't tell me what to believe. I have my own religion and it's membership is restricted to just me, and my God. I regard Hinduism as the only "true" religion in that it has no clear beginning - it is said it is as old as the planet itself - it teaches that it doesn't matter what religion you choose - that all fingers pint to the same moon - that the wheel of life unites all - that we go in and out of form and up a staircase to enlightenment or samadhi. Now, as no religion can be viewed as being better based upon its adherents, it is understood that Hindus are not, in and of themselves perhaps the best representatives of Hinduism - as they are just as clueless in many ways as the rest of humanity - Your so right many hindus are not good representatives. I regard swami praphupad ( Founder of Hare Krsna's) one of the best examples how someone should follow the vedic scriptures. Because..... It is all about consciousness. And what people believe does not make then necessarily more aware. Indeed. The mistake of Hinduism as is applied to society is the renunciation of the material as a way to enlightenment - a mistaken, literal application that has kept their society in the dark ages. You do not consciously try to disengage from materialism - it is a process of purification of consciousness that results in same. I might recommend the Baghavad Gita as translated by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Shalom |
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The_Venerable User ID: 412220 United States 09/18/2008 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You speak of pseudo-religion, not actual religion. Quoting: DrPostmanI was addressing the Big Five, of which Buddhism and Hinduism are best suited to survive first contact. I have no problem with religion as long as you don't tell me what to believe. I have my own religion and it's membership is restricted to just me, and my God. No qualms here. |
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The_Venerable User ID: 412220 United States 09/18/2008 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are not a communist, why do you care? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166Live and let live. Separate religion from state and live morally and who cares what religion someone else is or is not. You almost have a point. So the opposite of religious is Communist? Funny how people's brain work. Or don't work. I would say the opposite of religious is being aware and reality based. And not using God as an excuse to bomb other countries or to run Presidential campaigns with platforms derived from the Ten Commandments. Why do we need religion gone? Because TPTB use religion to control, to keep people stupid and unaware, and to keep them believing that our leaders have our best interests at heart because they are fellow believers. It's a racket that has to go if we are to ever move forward. Noone should care what religion someone else is!!! It is absolutely non sequitor. It is morality and maintaining decorum in society that makes a society and when that breaks down that is where problems arise from. Again, live and let live. People who have a problem with religious freedom are people who have an agenda, and are obviously PAID to make issue of forever harping on various religions. My question? Why would anybody other than a communist care? OK, I'll hit the ball lower so it doesn't go over your head. Religious freedom is fine. Religious seepage into all areas of society aimed at passing laws or repealing laws that affect all of us is a problem. The nature of Christianity is to spread and to infect. That is its nature and its mission. It seeks to legalize its own version of morality, which is pretty cut and dry. Would you like to live under Sharia law, as an example? In countries where religion is allowed to dominate the culture, there is an unavoidable evolution toward extremism. If Christians had their way, we would be praying over our groceries at the supermarket as the bagger put them in the bag. You are uninformed. I feel sorry for you. |
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