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Woman Prefers Jail Over Returning Book-Woman Claims Book Violates City's Obscenity Ordinance | |
| mopar28m
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 493219  United States08/29/2008 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 284011 United States08/29/2008 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, I think these kinds of attitudes and behaviors really screw up the American people sexually. But my question is, if I don't return a book, I get charged for it. I don't go to jail. Why is this woman going to jail? |
| mopar28m
(OP) User ID: 493219 United States08/29/2008 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, I think these kinds of attitudes and behaviors really screw up the American people sexually. But my question is, if I don't return a book, I get charged for it. I don't go to jail. Why is this woman going to jail? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284011GOOD question.  vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 192998 United States08/29/2008 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64375 United States08/29/2008 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, it looks like she removed the book from more than one library and sent the librarys a check for the cost of the book, but she refused to return it. She said that the illustrations were pornographic and maybe the writing was perverted...also the right to lifer's were mentioned, so maybe the book said something that would encorage children to support abortion? I don't know what was in the book-besides illustrations, but the woman also said that children should be taught those things from thier parents. Looking at sex-books has been one way of getting kids into reading and librarys for a long time, so I don't agree that its good for children to remove the sex books--but if the content is perverse I would want my kids to understand that. |
| LifesReflections*
User ID: 472548  Sweden08/29/2008 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I salute the integrity of this woman. She is made from the very fabric that America was founded upon, that being a pioneer, one willing to make great sacrifices for their beliefs and their belief that their sacrifice is for the greater good.. We need more people like her in America..  Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!' |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 284011 United States08/29/2008 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, it looks like she removed the book from more than one library and sent the librarys a check for the cost of the book, but she refused to return it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64375She said that the illustrations were pornographic and maybe the writing was perverted...also the right to lifer's were mentioned, so maybe the book said something that would encorage children to support abortion? I don't know what was in the book-besides illustrations, but the woman also said that children should be taught those things from thier parents. Looking at sex-books has been one way of getting kids into reading and librarys for a long time, so I don't agree that its good for children to remove the sex books--but if the content is perverse I would want my kids to understand that. So why is she getting arrested again? Either way, the bitch has no right to decide what should or should not be in the library, what other people's kids should or should not read. If she didn't like it, she shouldn't let her kids check it out. Plain and simple. These types of people are the kinds that feel so entitled that they think they should tell everyone else how to live. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 284011 United States08/29/2008 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I salute the integrity of this woman. She is made from the very fabric that America was founded upon, that being a pioneer, one willing to make great sacrifices for their beliefs and their belief that their sacrifice is for the greater good.. Quoting: LifesReflections*We need more people like her in America.. :God Bless : She's a fool. There is a simple solution to the situation and she is going to make alot of drama for her family over this instead. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 435072 United States08/29/2008 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also salute the integrity of this woman, and She is my Hero ! People that want to push their filth to the World should be put in Jail. It is ok with me, for you to do what ever fornication you want to in the privacy of your own home. But when you put it out there in Public, you try and infect us all with your Sodom and Gomorrah type mind sets. I rebuke you evil porn freaks in the mighty name of JESUS. And yes This country was built from high moral fabric people, like that woman. I am only sad a man did not step up to the plate first, and a woman had to go fight instead of a man.. Sad for the men in that State ! As for you pushers of Porn and fornication and all the filth, You can go to hell, or where ever you came from !. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 192998 United States08/29/2008 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, it looks like she removed the book from more than one library and sent the librarys a check for the cost of the book, but she refused to return it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284011She said that the illustrations were pornographic and maybe the writing was perverted...also the right to lifer's were mentioned, so maybe the book said something that would encorage children to support abortion? I don't know what was in the book-besides illustrations, but the woman also said that children should be taught those things from thier parents. Looking at sex-books has been one way of getting kids into reading and librarys for a long time, so I don't agree that its good for children to remove the sex books--but if the content is perverse I would want my kids to understand that. So why is she getting arrested again? Either way, the bitch has no right to decide what should or should not be in the library, what other people's kids should or should not read. If she didn't like it, she shouldn't let her kids check it out. Plain and simple. These types of people are the kinds that feel so entitled that they think they should tell everyone else how to live. Exactly. She has no right to determine what anyone else can or can't read. Again, I hope she rots.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 493270 United States08/29/2008 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 284011 United States08/29/2008 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also salute the integrity of this woman, and She is my Hero ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 435072People that want to push their filth to the World should be put in Jail. It is ok with me, for you to do what ever fornication you want to in the privacy of your own home. But when you put it out there in Public, you try and infect us all with your Sodom and Gomorrah type mind sets. No one is pushing their filth on anyone. You do not have to check these books out or even look at them. Avoid that section altogether. You are the one PUSHING what you believe on people. I'm going to my local library today and removing the bibles because they offend me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 192998 United States08/29/2008 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck that uptight Christo-fascist bitch in her puckered little asshole. I hope she rots.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493270you need help I'm fine, thank you. It's you people that think that you have the right to tell people what they can and cannot read that need help. Fascism is psychological disorder. |
| Rebekah
User ID: 482675 United States08/29/2008 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | whether her belief is right or wrong, she should be commended for standing up for them. many people would rather cower and submit to TPTB. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 493552 United States08/30/2008 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck that uptight Christo-fascist bitch in her puckered little asshole. I hope she rots.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493270you need help Don't worry, I'll help hold her down while he gets to work on her... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 54003 United States08/30/2008 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  [link to www.sunjournal.com] Saturday, August 30, 2008 LEWISTON - The showdown between the city and JoAn Karkos ended Friday even though Karkos failed to return a library book she has deemed obscene. Karkos will not be ordered to jail for violating a judge's orders. The city will not continue trying to wrest from her a copy of "It's Perfectly Normal: Changing Bodies, Growing Up, Sex and Sexual Health." There will be no national debate drawn to Lewiston based on the arrest of a 64-year-old grandmother. City leaders believe they made the right choice by choosing to drop the matter. Karkos, they say, still has to pay a $100 fine and cannot return to the library until she does so. "Going any further on this, really, I don't see any other gain that the city is going to have," Lewiston City Administrator Jim Bennett said. Karkos said she would have been happy to see it go further. By dismissing the matter, she said, the city is trying to make the issue go away. "They didn't do me any favors," Karkos said Friday night. "They knew what they were doing. They were protecting themselves." Karkos checked the book out of the library last summer and has refused to return it. She has stated publicly that she finds the book obscene and that she does not feel it is appropriate for the library to stock it. Critics have lambasted Karkos, saying one woman should not be allowed to make judgments on behalf of other people who might feel differently. "We felt that one person does not have the power to keep a book from the 36,000 citizens of Lewiston," Public Library Director Richard Speers said on Wednesday. Some critics felt Karkos should be ordered to jail after refusing to turn the book over upon instruction from a judge at a court hearing Wednesday. Bennett, however, said that proceeding with that kind of legal action would have accomplished nothing. Putting the matter to rest, he said, is in the best interest of the city. It saves money that would need to be spent to pursue the case in court, he said, and will keep Lewiston from becoming the epicenter of the debate over decency in publications. "We're not caving at all," he said. "Is it appropriate to spend any more of the limited resources that we have, in these tough economic times, to allow the city of Lewiston to be the place to play out this national and state debate? I don't think that's an appropriate use of those funds." Karkos was told of the resolution of the case early Friday afternoon. She saw it as less about searching for a good solution than the city trying to hide from the issue. "They just said, 'Get that lady away from us. She is an intrusion. She is an embarrassment to us,'" Karkos said. "I guess I called their bluff." The city issued a statement Friday afternoon spelling out its decision to drop the matter. "This decision is not made lightly or without thoughtful consideration," Bennett wrote. "By taking this step, it should not be seen as a backing down by the city. The library now has four copies of the same book, all donated by others, instead of the one that existed." If Karkos fails to pay the $100 fine, further court action would likely ensue. She said Friday night she had not decided whether she would comply. "That's still an issue," she said. "It's something I'll have to think about." Library Director Speers said that facility stands by its system of determining what is appropriate for the bookshelves. "We feel that kids and their parents need educational materials," Speers said. "An educated person is an empowered person." Karkos, on the other hand, stood by her claim that the book is more about dirty pictures than education. "I guess I was shocked to find out that the library is exempt from obscenity laws," she said. "To me, that is thoroughly disheartening." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 54003 United States08/30/2008 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
