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Lol OrangeRay3 you making U Tube fuck up LOL.
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i love God. it's been a turbulent and sometime almost psychotic love/hate relationship..but here at the end of the war i can see why He had to be so harsh and unyielding. and i can look back and see He did take care of me in a fashion. and i signed on as a warrior, so He was fair. He's really cool, and not like most people think He is..for instance, He could care less if you believe in Him or not, that's not how He picks His people.
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My friend...I do know how you love...it is alchemical...you are an aquarian...no? You understand this world from quantum physics and desire to experience more from the heart than just the mind. I create with chaos magic...ripping away the illusion with harsh textures to enable access to the heart...aka human drama which I believe you enjoy watching? You have a childlike excitement and a hunger for more! You are dualistic...perhaps it's gemini?...you are both innocent and cunning at the same time and i enjoy u immensely!ps...thanks for that Verve vid!xoxoxox

Yay OrangeRay3 , love you talking. I am a Leo. I use quantium physics recently, last 16 months cos through them I can explain my and others natural abilities. Since birth, everything outside me has identity (personality) fitting it`s nature. All you see is true which I accept as consequence`s of my motive and goal. I am exactly dualistic (2) which forms the one (1). I am three(3)in one(1).
I enjoyed that reply OrangeRay3, first time I ever declared my number. Liberating. xoxoxo.

We Come 1

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3 as u can see and 7 are my numbers...The leo explains your gooey lovey side but I'll betcha you are drwn in by quantum physics due to air in your chart...if u feel like sharing ur bday w/yr I can look and see? yes...cause=effect aka causal.xo
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i love God. it's been a turbulent and sometime almost psychotic love/hate relationship..but here at the end of the war i can see why He had to be so harsh and unyielding. and i can look back and see He did take care of me in a fashion. and i signed on as a warrior, so He was fair. He's really cool, and not like most people think He is..for instance, He could care less if you believe in Him or not, that's not how He picks His people.
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...I know my brother...it's been a long road to get here...being called up as a warrior is a tough gig...alot of pain involved there! Rest easy now tho, knowing that we have at least come to the point where we know we are NOT crazy but more prepared than most and just try your best to stay grounded!!!!
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i love God. it's been a turbulent and sometime almost psychotic love/hate relationship..but here at the end of the war i can see why He had to be so harsh and unyielding. and i can look back and see He did take care of me in a fashion. and i signed on as a warrior, so He was fair. He's really cool, and not like most people think He is..for instance, He could care less if you believe in Him or not, that's not how He picks His people.
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...I know my brother...it's been a long road to get here...being called up as a warrior is a tough gig...alot of pain involved there! Rest easy now tho, knowing that we have at least come to the point where we know we are NOT crazy but more prepared than most and just try your best to stay grounded!!!!
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Magical.
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3 as u can see and 7 are my numbers...The leo explains your gooey lovey side but I'll betcha you are drwn in by quantum physics due to air in your chart...if u feel like sharing ur bday w/yr I can look and see? yes...cause=effect aka causal.xo
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Hi OrangeRay3, I`m 25th July 1948, I love you to. Thanks in advance xoxo.
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My friend...I do know how you love...it is alchemical...you are an aquarian...no? You understand this world from quantum physics and desire to experience more from the heart than just the mind. I create with chaos magic...ripping away the illusion with harsh textures to enable access to the heart...aka human drama which I believe you enjoy watching? You have a childlike excitement and a hunger for more! You are dualistic...perhaps it's gemini?...you are both innocent and cunning at the same time and i enjoy u immensely!ps...thanks for that Verve vid!xoxoxox
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Chaos magic = Means justifies the end. Is that correct OrangeRay3?
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The generic truths.

The generic truth of Divine will has many theories but all are over the same point . Which God is the most powerful.

The generic truth of knowledge is the key has many theories and all over the same point. How to best understand the mechanical universe and manipulate it to mans advantage.

The generic truth of a intelligent universe has many thories and all over the same point. How intelligent is it?
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One could begin by saying among Chaos Magicians there is the underlying assumption of the "random" and relativistic nature of life, the universe and everything. Reality is stochastic in nature, which is to say that each intelligent entity "creates" reality by their interaction and participation in it. We are adrift in a quantum world of uncertainty. Existance can not be completely described by either religion or it's philosophical successor, science.

Chaos Mathematics shows us that what seems random is in fact chaotic and has a higher "order" that can be perceived only from a great enough perspective. Chaos gives rise to reality itself. It might also give rise to the tendency for matter to accrue form and perhaps even intelligence
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A belief manifested from the first and second generic truths. Does that feel correct OrangeRay3?
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A belief manifested from the first and second generic truths. Does that feel correct OrangeRay3?
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There is a certain level of Chaos theory at work in earthquakes... a certain order, shall we say? I see it, but many do not... do you?
[link to neic.usgs.gov]
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Ha ha, yes Geogal. Sleep well, see you in the morning.
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OrangeRay3, the above from Geogal`s earthquake thread. My posts are ambiguous I know so this makes me feel better as to explaing my thinking ref. chaos.

Looking forward to my picture your making ref. my birth date. No pressure Lol.xoxo
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Yes, it seems that way in retrospect; but now I see a common theme moving throughout the thread.

Electricity = energy = information = knowledge.

They are all manifestations of the same force. If you disrupt the flow at one level, you disrupt it at all levels. Thus we can never understand anything fully.

The “Secret of the Ages” seems to be all about the history of how an elite group of people has conspired throughout the ages to prevent the rest of humanity from learning about electricity/energy/information/knowledge.

With this sacred knowledge we can create a better world or we can destroy ourselves. The choice has always been ours. Will we use this Divine (Cosmic) Energy to build a New Golden Age or will we bring about another Armageddon?

Tesla said it was “radiant energy”. To the Nazi occultists it was “Vril”. Wilhelm Reich referred to it as “orgone” or “cosmic energy.”

Back in 2000 I was naive enough to believe this "conspiracy" involved the suppression of "free energy technology". We could all run out and purchase our little Tesla generators and “stick it” to the global energy cartels.

But this “conspiracy” is way more involved than simply being the machinations of a few greedy robber barons seeking to line their pockets. It is of a much more fundamental nature. It has to do with denying us access to our Divine Source by suppressing the knowledge about our own divinity and our interconnectedness to everything else in the Universe. If we understand this, then the few will no longer be able to control the many.

Perhaps this all sounds like “high-minded rhetoric” on my part, so I will “bring it back down to earth.”

Many of us have lost loved ones to cancer. Would it have made a difference if these energy technologies had not been suppressed?
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I personaly do not see a conspiracy but a transformation of the the way we translated the same information over a long period of time. Today the majority do not see (believe) the concepts on this thread and that is natural, a moment in time. Even when it is glimsed ,all that was known lingers, Gods are Gods and the transformation of archetypes and formation of new ones is a process of time over experiences.
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From Geogal`s earthquake and moon effect thread:

Following the theme that EM waves are always here we find that we have always existed within the Schuman resonance, a physical reality, named after it`s discoverer, that only exists between double layers:IE planets with an ionosphere.

The ionosphere is the uppermost part of the atmosphere, distinguished because it is ionized by solar radiation. It plays an important part in atmospheric electricity and forms the inner edge of the magnetosphere. It has practical importance because, among other functions, it influences radio propagation to distant places on the Earth.

This allows the Shuman Resonance to exist.

This global electromagnetic resonance phenomenon is named after physicist Winfried Otto Schumann who predicted it mathematically in 1952. Schumann resonance occurs because the space between the surface of the Earth and the conductive ionosphere acts as a waveguide. The limited dimensions of the Earth cause this waveguide to act as a resonant cavity for electromagnetic waves in the ELF band. The cavity is naturally excited by energy from lightning strikes. Schumann resonance modes are observed in the power spectra of the natural electromagnetic background noise, as separate peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.8, 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.(space)

This Shuman Resonance must have an effect.

What effect is worthy of investigation imo.
 Quoting: nonmaterial structure


The Shuman Resonance place a part in our past as noted here:

Did Ancient Humans Have Knowledge of the Electromagnetic (EM) Spectrum?
By Glenn Kreisberg, Radio Frequency (RF) Spectrum Engineer
It’s been suggested, at various times, that ancient humans had knowledge and use of unseen powers, forces and energy fields. Could these unseen forces and fields consist of electromagnetic frequency waves and particle fields that make up the EM Spectrum? This is not a simple question to answer.

What evidence exists, and what kind of evidence may come to light, to support such a claim?

There is no question, that as it has always existed, the EM Spectrum is a naturally occurring part of our environment, comprised of a continuous sequence of electromagnetic energy arranged according to wavelength or frequency, as generated by particle motion (vibrations) and pulses created from many sources.
 Quoting: Glenn Kreisberg

[link to www.grahamhancock.com]

But was it here always as we have the Schuman Resonance today. Our version of history says no.
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In our version of history we first lived in this enviroment:

The most benign situation for life in an Electric Universe is inside the electrical cocoon of a brown dwarf star. Radiant energy is then evenly distributed over the entire surface of any planet orbiting within the chromosphere of such a star, regardless of axial rotation, tilt, or orbital eccentricity.

The exceedingly thin atmosphere of such stars has the essential water and carbon compounds to mist down onto planetary surfaces. The reddish light is ideal for photosynthesis. Any advanced civilization on such a planet will be unaware that the universe exists outside its own stellar environment, and radio communication through the glow discharge of the star is impossible,
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The Schuman Resonance would have been a small influence compared to the EM effect of earth and us living in electrical cocoon of a brown dwarf. The bicameral mind in these circumstances fits as there was a completly different physical/etheric environment.

"Any advanced civilization on such a planet will be unaware that the universe exists outside its own stellar environment"

Definition of advanced is open to interpretation but the descriptions of the golden age would also fit and the life style of the humans, content and immortal, unless they chose not to be, shepparded directly by their Gods (etheric) via their bicameral minds. They were living on earth but their minds were living in the etheric and any of us thats been there, the etheric is a great place to live.
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My friend...I do know how you love...it is alchemical...you are an aquarian...no? You understand this world from quantum physics and desire to experience more from the heart than just the mind. I create with chaos magic...ripping away the illusion with harsh textures to enable access to the heart...aka human drama which I believe you enjoy watching? You have a childlike excitement and a hunger for more! You are dualistic...perhaps it's gemini?...you are both innocent and cunning at the same time and i enjoy u immensely!ps...thanks for that Verve vid!xoxoxox

Chaos magic = Means justifies the end. Is that correct OrangeRay3?
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More or less...Cant see what's broken unless you bring it out of the dark and into the light which is a process that induces chaos due to the disruption of the energy, that the ego then reacts to from a survival position.
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The generic truths.

The generic truth of Divine will has many theories but all are over the same point . Which God is the most powerful.

The generic truth of knowledge is the key has many theories and all over the same point. How to best understand the mechanical universe and manipulate it to mans advantage.

The generic truth of a intelligent universe has many thories and all over the same point. How intelligent is it?

One could begin by saying among Chaos Magicians there is the underlying assumption of the "random" and relativistic nature of life, the universe and everything. Reality is stochastic in nature, which is to say that each intelligent entity "creates" reality by their interaction and participation in it. We are adrift in a quantum world of uncertainty. Existance can not be completely described by either religion or it's philosophical successor, science.

Chaos Mathematics shows us that what seems random is in fact chaotic and has a higher "order" that can be perceived only from a great enough perspective. Chaos gives rise to reality itself. It might also give rise to the tendency for matter to accrue form and perhaps even intelligence

A belief manifested from the first and second generic truths. Does that feel correct OrangeRay3?
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I agree with all this...I also should say that I have my own take on chaos magic which is influenced by the hindu goddess Kali Ma the destroyer of illusion...Which I believe connects somehow to the idea that the fallen angel Lucifer is getting a bad rap for illuminating the darkness with harsh truth that then got him labeled evil.Lucifer turned from taking direction from the creator and explored free will and ego...which is why I believe this place is dualistically heaven and hell....and no I'm not a satanist!
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Hi OrangeRay3,

More or less...Cant see what's broken unless you bring it out of the dark and into the light which is a process that induces chaos due to the disruption of the energy, that the ego then reacts to from a survival position.
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Ha ha , yes I see, funny, remember me fixating on WIDK`s robot friend on this subject. I understand it as you explain it, I realy do and in the context you are using I see the benefits but it is such an alien concept for me to get my head around. Cool explanation, first person whom has expained or even discussed it with me, thank you xoxo.

I agree with all this...I also should say that I have my own take on chaos magic which is influenced by the hindu goddess Kali Ma the destroyer of illusion...Which I believe connects somehow to the idea that the fallen angel Lucifer is getting a bad rap for illuminating the darkness with harsh truth that then got him labeled evil.Lucifer turned from taking direction from the creator and explored free will and ego...which is why I believe this place is dualistically heaven and hell....and no I'm not a satanist!
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You know OrangeRay3 that post was my first words on chaos magic ever. Glad your here cos as I said, no one explained any of this to me before and I can go edgy. Reverse engineer your explaination and it fits back through generic truth 2 to 1 beautifully. Lol I just saw that. Ha ha OrangeRay3 kiss and kiss again. That fits!!.
Thanks xoxo.
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hail the ceiling cat! hf
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I agree with all this...I also should say that I have my own take on chaos magic which is influenced by the hindu goddess Kali Ma the destroyer of illusion...Which I believe connects somehow to the idea that the fallen angel Lucifer is getting a bad rap for illuminating the darkness with harsh truth that then got him labeled evil.Lucifer turned from taking direction from the creator and explored free will and ego...which is why I believe this place is dualistically heaven and hell....and no I'm not a satanist!
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Yes OrangeRay3 thinking, the original purpose of Kali would be to always have the ability to unravel any belief, leaving only reality , whatever shape that took after Kali had concluded ,being Gods reality/will. Thats Kali`s role. We got a lot to say about Kali as we go back, what you have done is linked purpose to the God.
OrangeRay3 please do not leave the building. xoxo.
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Hi AC:489026 excuse for wicked song + clever use of ceiling fan (close?)

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That is just wrong!
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I agree with all this...I also should say that I have my own take on chaos magic which is influenced by the hindu goddess Kali Ma the destroyer of illusion...Which I believe connects somehow to the idea that the fallen angel Lucifer is getting a bad rap for illuminating the darkness with harsh truth that then got him labeled evil.Lucifer turned from taking direction from the creator and explored free will and ego...which is why I believe this place is dualistically heaven and hell....and no I'm not a satanist!
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Hi OrangeRay3, Do you believe that Chaos magic needs to be based upon a Chaos figure/god/goddess? Or do you think it is more of a basic, primal magic that isn't trained or based upon anyone elses beliefs? Just more PURE magic, PURE energy...
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I agree with all this...I also should say that I have my own take on chaos magic which is influenced by the hindu goddess Kali Ma the destroyer of illusion...Which I believe connects somehow to the idea that the fallen angel Lucifer is getting a bad rap for illuminating the darkness with harsh truth that then got him labeled evil.Lucifer turned from taking direction from the creator and explored free will and ego...which is why I believe this place is dualistically heaven and hell....and no I'm not a satanist!

Hi OrangeRay3, Do you believe that Chaos magic needs to be based upon a Chaos figure/god/goddess? Or do you think it is more of a basic, primal magic that isn't trained or based upon anyone elses beliefs? Just more PURE magic, PURE energy...
 Quoting: Geogal



Hi Geogal...Thank you for your chaos magic...love your threads!!!! I'm eq sensetive so I'm ALWAYS hanging around the geo/thermal posts and sites! To me...Icons are emotional comfort...Chaos magic is pure, primal,untrained magic! That is in turn what the icons represent.Quantum physics plays a huge part in all that is! I have a unique "process" in that I hear things internally and link them externally, to cross reference that which I believe to be a "spontanous knowing"...in other words I'm "compelled" towards info/ideas and then research why so I can figure out what my guides are showing me to "see". I don't really allow my mind to be influenced by anyone or thing, unless it responds to that which I "feel" inherently.Once established, I take in that knowledge so as to understand more of that "internal" clue I am receiving.Always taking the clues and looking for the symmetry, synchronicity and the next peice of the "puzzle"...to offer keys to the origin and purpose of creation.That keeps it pure for me...I'm extremely logic based so it's a good balance for the intuit info.
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That is just wrong!
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Hits the spot for me Angel Eyes, shock/humour with sex, somehow presses all buttons, Ha ha.
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Cop shoot Cop
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Hi Geogal...Thank you for your chaos magic...love your threads!!!! I'm eq sensetive so I'm ALWAYS hanging around the geo/thermal posts and sites! To me...Icons are emotional comfort...Chaos magic is pure, primal,untrained magic! That is in turn what the icons represent.Quantum physics plays a huge part in all that is! I have a unique "process" in that I hear things internally and link them externally, to cross reference that which I believe to be a "spontanous knowing"...in other words I'm "compelled" towards info/ideas and then research why so I can figure out what my guides are showing me to "see". I don't really allow my mind to be influenced by anyone or thing, unless it responds to that which I "feel" inherently.Once established, I take in that knowledge so as to understand more of that "internal" clue I am receiving.Always taking the clues and looking for the symmetry, synchronicity and the next peice of the "puzzle"...to offer keys to the origin and purpose of creation.That keeps it pure for me...I'm extremely logic based so it's a good balance for the intuit info.
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Hi OrangeRay3. Glad you like my kind of "magic"... LOL! What you say also confirms something I've felt all my life. Thanks. I've had to stop at times of my life and wonder if I was nuts or just "outside" the realm of others ideas of organization and propriety.
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Hi Geogal...Thank you for your chaos magic...love your threads!!!! I'm eq sensetive so I'm ALWAYS hanging around the geo/thermal posts and sites! To me...Icons are emotional comfort...Chaos magic is pure, primal,untrained magic! That is in turn what the icons represent.Quantum physics plays a huge part in all that is! I have a unique "process" in that I hear things internally and link them externally, to cross reference that which I believe to be a "spontanous knowing"...in other words I'm "compelled" towards info/ideas and then research why so I can figure out what my guides are showing me to "see". I don't really allow my mind to be influenced by anyone or thing, unless it responds to that which I "feel" inherently.Once established, I take in that knowledge so as to understand more of that "internal" clue I am receiving.Always taking the clues and looking for the symmetry, synchronicity and the next peice of the "puzzle"...to offer keys to the origin and purpose of creation.That keeps it pure for me...I'm extremely logic based so it's a good balance for the intuit info.


Hi OrangeRay3. Glad you like my kind of "magic"... LOL! What you say also confirms something I've felt all my life. Thanks. I've had to stop at times of my life and wonder if I was nuts or just "outside" the realm of others ideas of organization and propriety.
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Bingo! Once you get outside the system and pull it's influence off your back...things get really exciting!!! I can see how "they" can think they're gods...holding all of our collective power the way they do!xo
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OrangeRay3 and Geogal, intriguing beyond experience.
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This web site runs this threads story line .Now will be many sites that sinc with this thread and we will use them freely: [link to www.mythopedia.info]

Regular Evolutionary Principles:
Over the centuries, mythological ideas have developed according to certain irreversible processes and tendencies you might call regular evolutionary principles of mythology. An example is the tendency for zoomorphic gods to become anthropomorphic; the reverse rarely happens.

Visual Prototypes:
The ultimate origin and significance of the central themes of myth were embedded in the underlying visual images, not in the meanings, functions, and interpretations these myths acquired subsequently. Pictures are primary, abstract notions secondary.

Myth, Ritual, and Icon:
Myths, rituals, and traditional icons generally developed as parallel expressions of the same prototypes.

Culture and Civilisation:
Human culture and civilisation themselves were largely and deliberately modelled on mythical prototypes, at least from the perspective of preliterate and ‘ancient’ societies.

Symbolism:
Mythology is not to be taken literally, but expresses itself through an interface of symbolism. The symbolism was unintentional, as the myth-makers simply had no recourse to a more refined technical or astronomical jargon. The nature of these symbols is visual, not allegorical.

Universality:
The same motifs in myths, petroglyphs, rituals, and other traditions are repeated around the world, often agreeing in fine and unexpected details. Many such 'archetypal' motifs can be traced back to the earliest recorded sources, suggesting that none have come into existence since the beginning of the historic period.

Single Prototype:
Many of the most prominent myths, widely reflected in rituals and traditional icons and centring on the themes of ‘creation’, ‘world destruction’ and cosmology, trace back to a single prototype, even if the astronomical reality behind this prototype may in reality have been stretched out over several centuries. The narrated events form a coherent sequence, not a disparate assemblage of nature symbols.

Catastrophe:
The single visual prototype of the myths was inspired by a series of catastrophic events that took place in the inner solar system prior to the onset of civilisation and perhaps peaking about 3100 BCE.

Plasma:
This series of events can largely be explained by reference to plasma phenomena operating when extreme solar weather or a fragmenting cometary intruder caused a disturbance in the geomagnetic field manifesting in the form of unprecedented auroras.

Alter the past and you force the present to change. That simple.
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OrangeRay3 and Geogal, intriguing beyond experience.
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Chaos , the notion of, allowed seeing through current orders active at the time of chaos`s application. Chaos discovered what appeared an undiscovered order. Chaos application progressed sensing this order was not of traditionl translations. Similarity was it`s coherence (order) at the moments of discovery (understanding). A femtosecond past discoveries (understandings) comparison with traditional translations ended.





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