Jerusalem: Literal or Symbolic?

NO, I am sorry but that is not LOGICAL, only because we can not reliably prove any history, any more than 200 years old (by the oldest person today having asked the oldest person in their time when they were young)

Therefore the only understandable reason for so many today to be contending for THAT jerusalem is MOSTLY because they believe that, that place, is where it is, truly. In other words, if that is NOT true, then most of the contenders are simply deceived.

GOD KNOWS WHERE IT IS

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me114

Jerusalem is important to the whole world because it is important to the important people. The New Jerusalem, is yet to come.

that girl must be the Daughter of Zion (to whom the first dominion of the Kingdom is given)

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me114

I am intrigued about the concept you mentioned below.

can you elaborate? what do u mean by 11:11

also would your zeus person be the king of the second heaven on down, but meant to serve Almighty God in the third heaven? If so.. I believe there is something to all that... in a cosmogeny Ive learned by the Holy Spirit, there is a little Father and the Almighty Father.

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me114

If allowed, and they are successful, Jerusalem will be literal, for it is the NEW WORLD ORDER!!

The NEW VATICAN, and they promise to rule with a rod of iron!!

We are DOOMED if they succeed!!

And you silly christians, LOL, have been in support of it!!




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I like that, and believe you are onto something that will lead to clear truths. Good work!

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me114

That is what happened to me... God started dropping me hints that the real jerusalem is not where the maps say now...

then months later.. He has led me to the truth

He will do the same for you

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I'm still praying about it. No answer yet... It would sort of make sense that TPTB, the occult, masons, illuminati, Vatican, fake Jews (those that say they are Jews but are of the synagogue of Satan) would want to mislead Christians into believing that their Jewish state is the one prophecied of in the Bible, when in fact it's somewhere else, but it also makes sense that that could be the exact location as it is now and they're just there trying to establish it as their own before, we know, the Lord comes down and removes them. I'll keep praying...

And I will bring againe the captiuitie of my people of Israel: and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drinke the wine thereof: they shall also make gardens, and eate the fruite of them.

And I will plant them vpon their land, and they shall no more be pulled vp out of their land, which I haue giuen them, saith the Lord thy God.

Remember the former things of old, for I am God, and there is none else, I am God, and there is none like me,

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsell shall stand, and I wil doe all my pleasure

Calling a rauenous bird from the East, the man that executeth my counsell from a farre countrey; yea I haue spoken it, I will also bring it to passe, I haue purposed it, I will also doe it.

Hearken vnto me, ye stout hearted, that are farre from righteousnesse.

I bring neere my righteousnesse: it shall not bee farre off, and my saluation shall not tarie; and I wil place saluation in Zion for Israel my glorie.

Literal..... as are all of the Biblical prophecies. You've been exposed to a very strange hermeneutical teaching which is alien to rightly dividing the Word.

The Real Enemy Of Mankind

ISRAEL, the false one!

One Isreal is a pack of matches, and the other IS Ra EL is the fully awakened, enlightened human being.

Of course we don't hear about the later Is Ra El at all.




The biggest reason that people will hate Israel in the future is when they find out the following biblical truth.

Will the real JEW stand up!


or shall I say: be seated and assume the lotus position.

" A JEW IS ONE INWARDLY"

"Romans 2:29"

That is to say one who seeks within himself through meditation, is a JEW. WOW!!

IS RA EL, The word Israel itself, far from being a Jewish appellation, comes from the combination of three different reigning deities: Isis, the Earth Mother Goddess revered throughout the ancient world


Isis the femanine Ra the masculine, and El the full manifested power of the light within

Is Ra El

Isis Ra Elohim


El was one of the earliest names for the god of the ancient Hebrews (whence Emmanu-El, Micha-El, Gabri-El, Samu-El, etc.), and his worship is reflected in the fact that the Jews still consider Saturday or Saturns day as "God's Day."

IS RA EL is the renewd mind not some country.

Isis-Ra-Elohim. Which comes from pushing the solar pelxus energy to the pineal, lighting the fornix, or furnace of the brain, where you experience the world being destroyed by fire, the world is your EGO nature, the physical, the intellectual, the emotional. The spiritual, is the renewed mind.


Is Ra El


Isis ra elohim

The femenine isis, masculine RA and God ELohim

IS RA EL

is reached when one becomes a JEW, one goes inward, the word jew, is from the egyptian jeu, which means to go within, the u was changes to a w at some point.

Jacob is involved in a spiritual wrestling match. This is the struggle that goes on within us in our meditation to finally touch the higher or God light.

Jacob prevails when he separates from physical desire which is symbolized by his thigh being put out.


Jacob then becomes Israel. IS Isis female RA Ra male, EL El Elohim God.


The full power of God , male and female in the supreme light.

Jacob then calls the place where this all happened, Peniel. This is the single eye or Pineal Gland of the brain. The light receptor of the body . Jacob declares the place Peniel in Genesis 32:20


Thus the entire story of Abraham and Sarah is the story of our meditation and the resultant brain mind activity that provides us with the child of promise and takes us to the promised land of the right side.


"You shall be the ancestor of a multitude of nations. No longer shall your name be Abram, but your name shall be Abraham"


The great nation of which God spoke (Gen. 12:2a) is Israel. (Jacob's name later was changed to Israel 32:28.) Also, God later said to Moses, Israel is my firstborn son Exo. 4:22.) God clearly stated that the nations who were friendly toward Israel ultimately would find favor with God, while those who were Israel's enemies would be cursed by God (I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse. Gen. 12:3a).


This is a mythological ststement, Israel was given to Jacob, the gradson of A brahmam, or A brahman, because it's the highest state of consciousness, called God consciousness, the bible writers called all who came after them nations and multitudes, you and I in our meditation ISRAEL we are the nations and multitudes, we become circumcised symbolically, of the heart. when we reach mt. zion in meditation.



Will the real Gentile please stand up!

Gentiles are

Negative thoughts outside the inner realm of consciousness, that arise out of the emotional nature. or when you begin to have thoughts during meditation, these thoughts are gentiles, and are not allowed within the inner court.

Negative thoughts, symbolic protection, being who we really are within, we believe that much. But how? How do we connect a de-railed inner state of mind to real life?



You are what you think about the most, your thought patterns create your outer reality. negative thought patterns arising from the EGO centered mind can't enter God's house, the human brain/mind.


How much control do you have over your negative feelings? According to research, a lot more than you might think.


Negative thinking patterns distort your view of yourself and life. They can make you feel down, worried, and stressed out, and they can provoke you into ill-chosen actions such as rage and even killing, all negative thoughts arise from the emotional, or animal nature in man/woman.


these thought patterns cannot be a part of the higher mind, it simply is not possible


make sure your thought waves are not GENTILE (negative) in nature, not carnal arising from the animal nature.



As you have seen the temple where God dwells is the human mind, it has an inner court, pia mater, and outer court dura mater, and a veil in the middle, this is the arachnoid of the brain. cherubim's or the cerebrum, means to cover.


God dwells in temples made without hands, and always seven years building. this means the energy passing through the seven chakras, to the brain.


this process happen as you go into meditation and take no thought, be still and know that I'm god, says the bible.



Only the jews were allowed in the inner court, pia mater, because the jew is one who meditates, and seeks within, when you are taking no thought, you are a jew, when thoughts come into the mind in meditation, they cannot enter the pia mater (tender mother) inner court, these thought patterns hover in the outer realm of consciousness or outer court, and hince are called gentiles.


believe it or NOT!!!
So then

If we recap all of this we get the following, God dwells in temples made WITHOT tools, and WITHOUT hands says the Bible, the only temples made without tools and without hands, is sitting on top of your shoulders.


It says a jew is one inwardly, or one who enters into meditation and seeks within for enlightenment, Is Ra El, is a compilation word from the three doctrines of the ancient world that came togetehr to complete the Bible stroty, and it means one who is operating from the highest god consciousness.



One who has opened his SEVEN seals or chakras in meditation.

Those thought patterns that keep you from attaining the right mind state in meditation are called gentiles.


So all this means that gods chosen people are not some people in the middle east, who stole the identity of the biblical jew, but one who seeks within, but all who enter into meditation, are the chosen of this and every Generation.

The land ordained to Is Ra El by God is the human mind, not some piece of dirt in former palestine.



It means that the jews in the country of israel are false, there whole heritage is false, sadly for them this is true!


Becuse you have just been shown the truth, right from the very bible that they carry under their arms, that a jew in one inwardly, and that Israel means the higher mind. what more do you want?


No supreme god would reveal himself to only one small tribe of people in one corner of the globe at one time in history!


They all missed it, or did they, did the ancient tribes that call themselves jews today, steal the identity of the biblical jew one who meditates deliberately? for their own gain?

Yes they did!

All of Jerusalim, the gates, the mount of olives the temple, and so forth were bulit after and according to the written word, the word was there first, the stuff was built afterwards, to make the world believe they were the chosen ones.

Now you know the truth!


Never forget that the bible says don't be a minister of the Letter. for the Letter (literal understanding) KILLS!!! It sure has, it has killed LITERALLY!!!


It's all ancient mythology describing mans ascension to a higher consciousness, not one word is true historically or literally!, and it is a fact, that one can conclude after the proper number of years in study.

Parables, Allegory, dark sayings of old, which is mythology!



thats what it ssys it is!

The bible says it, not ME!


You're altenative is to believe in utter nonsese literally, talking snakes, talking donkeys, God commanding dead and burnt animals at his alter, because he loves their smell, come on man Wake up said the mythological character paul, because we are asleep, when we don't understand the nature of the MYTH.



It's MYTHOLOGY!

one who enters into meditation, is the CHOSEN one, this is the TRUTH!


you will become IS RA EL if the energy from the solar plexus touches the mount of olives, and enters the land of pineal, and then the furnace, during meditation.
and you will also be


KING

SOL OM ON

you can google isis ra elohim amd sol om on and there are many web pages describing the meaning. Or you can read the ancient books, because it's there too.



The temple built in seven years without tools says the bible.
The soul is an embryo, once exposed to the creator (love) we are bright as a star, but you have to check your ego at the door. your destiny is to go inward and focus and see who you really are. Ed Dames.

"Look not lo here, nor lo there, for the kingdom of God is WITHIN you"
enough said!


"The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." Albert Einstein

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein

The jewish problem


It's no wonder that they are not very well liked.

The orthodox Jew belives that the first 5 books of the old testament (the torah) are
the LITERAL words of god, instead of the MYTHOLOGY that it is.

A large part of the world had been directly effected by these frauds

Untold countless human beings have been killed because of their Holy land nonsense

The jews in the false Israel are really the gentiles, but they don't even know it.

The only ones in the country of Israel that are real jews are the ones that enter within themselves. (meditation)

"a jew is one inwardly"




Religions are the last vestige of the primative, unenlightened, superstitous and
ignorant of the world.

Religion all religions create a world of make-believe. Nothing in religion is related to objective reality, to science, to real life. Every religious idea you have goes on only in your head. Every bit of religion is subjective, not objective. No prayer you ever said, no outcry you ever made to god has ever been heard or answered.

The bible says that the mark of the beast in revelations is the number of a man. The human body is made up of carbon, carbon 12 to be exact, and it is made up of 6 electrons 6 protons and 6 nuetrons. 666.

You see its the physical that is the beast, its the physical thats caused all the wars and all the killing, not the spiritual. The flesh truly is the beast, because its the lower nature, that old dragon the satan.

But when you meditate you rise above the flying things of the mind and the creeping things nof the subconscious, you touch the lamb, the pineal gland and are united with your true family of life and light.

Then and only then does all the wars, killings and keepers of swine end.

The day that you rightly divide the Word of Truth will be the day that Hell freezes over.

Both and more dear sister, many scriptures for this, why people keep on trying to tie down the Living Word to suit themselves, just tells me how late the hour really is.

I've already said "I could be wrong." I came into this with a humble spirit, willing to let the Lord be my guide, and He will lead me into all truth concerning this matter. I think He's showing me that it is indeed present-day Jerusalem, but the interlopers are there now trying to claim it as their own.

the Daughter of Zion with punkrock hair?

all biblical prophecies are literal you say?

Both, but Galatians 4:24-31 tells us which Jerusalem to focus upon.

Literal Jerusalem (Mother Hagar) - bondage
New Jerusalem (Mother Sarah) - blessings!

Howdy you all,

The Prophet Michah describes the end time:

" I will make her the remnant halted, daughter of Zion, to you shall it come. There will come the first government, the kingdom to the daughter of Jerusalem. Now why does she cry badly, because she has no king, and her counselor has perished? For pangs have taken you as a woman in labor. Be in pain and labor to bring forth, oh daughter of Zion ". (4:7 - 10)

Its talking about the goverment in the Land of Isreal litteraly which will pass for one born after Divinely ordained.

Prophet Obadiah says:
" Deliverers will ascend to Mount Zion to Judge mount Asev and the kingdom will belong to YHVH " (1:21)

Mount Zion is a real place King David is burried there , it has awsome energy realy wild. In Hebron Abraham Isac and Jacob are burried there. It also is a bit beyond this world not a story or simbolic.


" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)


see from the Prophet Jeremiah:
The Temple will be rebuilt on temple mount. Levi and Cohen shall serve again.

Prophet Jeremiah we can see a bit of to what extent the world is going to change :

" At that time they shall call Jerusalem the thrown of YHVH and all the nations shall be gathered to it. To the name of YHVH to Jerusalem, Nor shall they walk anymore after the stubbornness of Their evil heart " (3:17)

The nations live in other lands Jerusalem is its own place.


In conclusion :

Zechariah states:

" All the nations of the earth will gather about Jerusalem. On that day I will destroy all the nations that come upon Jerusalem ". (12:3)

Jeremiah states:

"Damascus shall be consumed in fire, no one shall live there ". (49:23)

The prophet Daniel states:

"Egypt will not be a survivor " (11:42)

This is talking about the middle east no doubt !

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negative. look into Isis, Ra, and El (hint: Egyption gods and goddesses)

others: look into zionism, Rothschilds, Khazar and King Bulan, Jewish ritual sacrifice, Talmud, et cetera

Literal

Jerusalem literally means "City of the Jews"
(Jeru =Jewish , Salem = City)
God made a promise to Abraham...he'll keep it.


There's a lot of debate over the Book of Revelation

The book was originally (and I believe correctly) considered to be a prophecy about the fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of Christianity in Europe.(At the time the book was written both were considered impossible)


A few common mistakes people make when reading Revelation

1. "World" does not mean the same thing as"Planet"
Revelation was written in Greek , by a Greek.

The Greeks considered the "World" to be the lands surrounding the Mediterranean.
(Medi= Ocean , Terranean = of the world)
So when the Greeks write about the world, they aren't talking about the entire planet.


2. Sedition laws made it a crime to criticize political leaders by name ...so authors like John , who was already under arrest for sedition, used the fact that most Greek letters also represent a number to criticize people/governments by listing the numerical value of their name

In the Greek spelling

Nero = 666

Rome = 666

Roman = 666


(Get the picture?)


3.At the time Revelation was written , Rome's nick name was "The City on Seven Hills" (Its easy to say in Greek)

So when seven headed dragons and such are described...its about Rome , in fact at one point the phase "The City on Seven Hills" is even used.



4. As I mentioned before, John was already under arrest for sedition when he wrote Revelation, to get the writings past his guards he relied heavily on references from Greek literature and prophecies from the Old testament since his Roman guards would not be familiar with either.

So if you want to understand Revelation you should study Old testament prophecies AND 2nd century Greek literature,history and culture.

There is a NEW Jerusalem, everything will be made new, as the beginning of the book of John, starting with the SECOND COMING, as He is the word, REV 5.


How else, as in the days of Noah

Aaron, I can find no ref on web to assign the word Jeu to Jew and its being Egyptian in origin..Please supply verification??? Thanks...Tsook

new jerusalem shall come come down from the heavens... THE kings of the Earth shall bring thier Glory to it ....seperate door intries for the tribes ...what does it mean.....Anyway it is special to all ..it is what it is .,

The Reptilians will destroy Jesus and his 'heavenly' armies.

I have seen it in a vision.