If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? | |
Humanitarianlike
(OP) User ID: 86989269 United States 03/27/2024 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? It's in the firmament. There's not aan outer space as we're taught, with a nearly complete vacuum. A pressurized atmosphere cannot exist next to a vacuum without a container. Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes The firmament is water. The ocean The deepest depths are hell to us because we can't possibly comprehend, understand, or explore. As above, so below. Moana exposed it. That is why there is no gravity and we "float" in space. We are all under deep water. Way over our heads...quite literally. I watched this video today. It's short. Gets into the minds of flat earthers. Seems they mainly feel betrayed by science, maybe NASA, maybe their parents. Others may simply be trying to strictly adhere to a biblical understanding..?? There may be other reasons. Maybe watch the video and give me your opinion. Only 6 minutes. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] *how many firmament explanations are in this thread of less than 2 pages? I got to 1 minute. If this is the video that finally teaches them something, then great. Science and NASA certainly never told them the earth is flat. Most scientists and NASA employees would have laughed at the idea by the time they were 10 years old. Or else NASA has gotten even worse than I thought. You'd need to watch the video through to understand what I was saying. Thanks for the comment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86036956 United States 03/27/2024 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? Mazzaroth Quoting: Humanitarianlike Mazzaroth is a Biblical Hebrew Word found in the Book of Job (38:32) and literally meaning "constellations," according to 10th-century biblical exegete Saadia Gaon,[1] while others interpret the word as Garland of Crowns,[2] but its context is that of Astronomical Constellations, and it is often interpreted as a term for the Zodiac or the Constellations thereof.[3] (Job 38:31–32). [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Job 31:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? 7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood, and leave off righteousness in the earth, 8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name: [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] When I talk to my family I ask them to sub in Sun for things like God, Jesus, White Throne etc. Most ignore that supposition. The point is to shift their thinking more in line with Enoch's writings. His Enochian Knowledge. Enoch the man that walked with God gives us a better, complete story that doesn't go off in a hundred directions as Scripture does. Revelation is the only book that comes close, as a book. As you point out so does Amos in places. It all relates to our solar micro nova cycle. There are several things called "Book of Enoch" in English, at least three. Did Enoch walk with YHVH? Elohim? I read 2 of those books a while ago, but I don't have them handy. |
Humanitarianlike
(OP) User ID: 86709424 United States 03/27/2024 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? Mazzaroth Quoting: Humanitarianlike Mazzaroth is a Biblical Hebrew Word found in the Book of Job (38:32) and literally meaning "constellations," according to 10th-century biblical exegete Saadia Gaon,[1] while others interpret the word as Garland of Crowns,[2] but its context is that of Astronomical Constellations, and it is often interpreted as a term for the Zodiac or the Constellations thereof.[3] (Job 38:31–32). [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Job 31:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? 7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood, and leave off righteousness in the earth, 8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name: [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] Thanks for the Amos. When I talk to my family I ask them to sub in Sun for things like God, Jesus, White Throne etc. Most ignore that supposition. The point is to shift their thinking more in line with Enoch's writings. His Enochian Knowledge. Enoch the man that walked with God gives us a better, complete story that doesn't go off in a hundred directions as Scripture does. Revelation is the only book that comes close, as a book. As you point out so does Amos in places. It all relates to our solar micro nova cycle. There are several things called "Book of Enoch" in English, at least three. Did Enoch walk with YHVH? Elohim? I read 2 of those books a while ago, but I don't have them handy. Enoch'sstory as it is relayed to us is interesting. We are told he is the 7th seed from Adam. He paused to ponder his life at age 30. Had his first son at 65. Walked with God at 300. And was taken by God at age 365. One of two men to not taste death. Decoded it reads: There are 7 days to a week. 30 solar days in a month. At 65 days past the first of the year we plant seeds in the fields. At 300 days past the first of the year we harvest. At 365 days the year ends to renew again the next day. The solar year does not taste death. Ordinance of our planet per Enoch's story. |
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User ID: 86876655 United States 03/27/2024 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? Mazzaroth Quoting: Humanitarianlike Mazzaroth is a Biblical Hebrew Word found in the Book of Job (38:32) and literally meaning "constellations," according to 10th-century biblical exegete Saadia Gaon,[1] while others interpret the word as Garland of Crowns,[2] but its context is that of Astronomical Constellations, and it is often interpreted as a term for the Zodiac or the Constellations thereof.[3] (Job 38:31–32). [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Job 31:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? angels are light the stars you see are in the firmament and can be seen once it is night |
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Humanitarianlike
(OP) User ID: 75793108 United States 03/27/2024 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? In Job 38:33 God is asking Job if he understands the Ordinances of Heaven - Ordinance being a decree, law or directive. God is asking Job if he understands the laws that govern the Heavens. Quoting: Humanitarianlike Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Job 31:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? Due to Earth's axis wobble the Ordination of Heaven changes every 2,160 years. The Precession of the Equinoxes Each year the sun passes entirely around the zodiac and returns to the point from which it started – the vernal equinox – and each year it falls just a little short of making the complete circle of the heavens in the allotted period of time. As a result, it crosses the equator just a little behind the spot in the zodiacal sign where it crossed the previous year. Each sign of the zodiac consists of thirty degrees, and as the sun loses about one degree every 72 years, it regresses through the entire zodiac in about 25,920 years. This retrograde motion is called the precession of the equinoxes. [link to www.cosmic-core.org (secure)] Each and every Vernal (Spring) Equinox the Great Sphinx at Giza Egypt faces due east to the horizon and watches the heavens waiting patiently for THIS Age - the Age of Earth Catastrophe. https://imgur.com/ttSjN4B Jesus is the Sun birthed by the God Orion and he has 12 zodiac disciples, including one female - Virgo. Q: What walks on Water? A: SUNlight Leonardo da Vinci was summoned to the Vatican to help them decipher ancient text. He understood the 'Ordinance of Heaven' and made a painting about it. You may know it. https://imgur.com/yXzkShO Thread: Leonardo's Last Supper ReCycled; Why did LDV Create the Last Supper?; DaVinci's Silent Secrets page 2 https://imgur.com/73EwwuM |
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(OP) User ID: 86993579 United States 03/28/2024 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? https://imgur.com/RLEPSI6 Star map showing the positions of the planets at eclipse totality on April 8th 2024 (click on the thumbnail for the full-size version). A simulation of this region of the sky at totality is shown below. The ecliptic (dark yellow line) is the apparent path of the Sun through the zodiac constellations as seen from the orbiting Earth during the year - the Moon and planets follow it very closely. The numbers along the sides of the map (Right Ascension and Declination) are co-ordinates of celestial longitude and latitude which are used to locate the positions of celestial bodies in the night sky. A printer-friendly (greyscale) version of the star map is available here. [link to www.nakedeyeplanets.com (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 86997830 United States 03/29/2024 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? Time has a symbol..a returning symbol for time recycles as we will all succumb to one day returning to the ash from whence came..the cosmic debris. The symbol of the Syrians, Mayans, Egyptians, the eastern Dragon lore ect., was and still is the Serpent/Dragon spread across Gaia's tribes of children. Quoting: Humanitarianlike Aztec prophecy establishes when a comet is seen in the heavens, the feathered serpent Quetzalcoatl will return; coincidental with North American Hopi prophecy and rewritten in the gospel of Revelation. Prophecy was ordained to be deciphered by a future generation as deemed by scripture. That's what some religious wars are over..who's prophet was right. Neither as the hour wasn't appropriate in their time. The various archaic monuments at each cardinal corners to earth display an advanced coded message in math, geometry and astronomy dictating the numerical 13 but also using Light to convey a message. This archaic codex correlated with father time leaves the sensational example as scientific sages see scriptures silent serendipitous slippery serpent showing serenity shining straight sacrificial solstice's serving Serpent Mound. "Greek 'ouranos' (after the Greek sky god) are almost always rendered “heaven” in the English Bible translations, some 700 times. A term burdened with misconceived religious sentiment, heaven, literally defined, has little or nothing to do with any of the popular doctrinal themes pertaining to an after-life experience, realm or condition. Even the most cursory research of off-the-shelf reference sources reveals that heaven is not synonymous with “paradise” (a park or garden), “glory” (radiance or bright light), or John's vision of a Holy City (streets of gold, pearly gates, etc.) described as “coming down out of heaven” (see Rev 21). https://imgur.com/Zaglpgd |
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User ID: 86475724 Indonesia 04/09/2024 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? Where is your black and white themed avatar you jesuit shill? Stars are lights and not planets. Now go worship semiramis by watching the sky with your lucifer telescope. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86983453 Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. They are indeed and OP is a space shill. Why would the Vatican reveal to us Orion's Belt stars and the Kuiper Belt if they are simply 'lights' in a dome? https://imgur.com/J6iKHZl Why has every Pope since Vatican inception worn Orion on their 'coat of arms?' Vatican Flag (Orion) https://imgur.com/geSaoIc The Grand Mosque in Mecca also lays out as our solar system. The 3 major religions all know that Mazzaroth our Zodiac is the Ordinance of Heaven. the 90/94 degrees 2 keys interesting picture OP as above so below not coincidence the message is pictured as 2 keys https://imgur.com/DXCvMDp Banned to post again? Heart/Earth 2Keys/2Hearts Compassion towards 2 opposed forces blue is violet, 47 is still 74 too Gold(69) Silver(47) bridge Green Need lots of rain (not hot/cold) Cancer (also 47) Cygnus (also Swan) License for Celestial Navi the cross of 69 and 47 produce the 13,6+7 or 9+4 |
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User ID: 86475724 Indonesia 04/09/2024 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? the knower know him it seems Banned to post again? Heart/Earth 2Keys/2Hearts Compassion towards 2 opposed forces blue is violet, 47 is still 74 too Gold(69) Silver(47) bridge Green Need lots of rain (not hot/cold) Cancer (also 47) Cygnus (also Swan) License for Celestial Navi the cross of 69 and 47 produce the 13,6+7 or 9+4 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82509462 United States 04/09/2024 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79403295 the magnetosphere is the container. our magnetic field is as strong as 12 feet of solid concrete. holy fuck are you guys stupid!!!!!!! It helps to not attack others along with anything you offer. Our magnetosphere is actually weakening now and has done so in the past. It doesn't remain in a constant state. yeah the pole shift is about to happen 2034+-3 years heres the study [link to www.earth-prints.org (secure)] and yeah i should show more restraint with people who just arent intelligent Nobody makes any friends by attacking people. We're all in this together. No one is attacking anyone, you are not physically face to face with someone who's pushing you around Everyone is using words. That is it. Stop making it more dramatic than it really is. Not just you. Everyone. |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 76630935 Netherlands 04/11/2024 05:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86912504 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis1:14,15,16 God put the sun,the moon and the stars in the firmanment not suspended in the space. Space IS the fucking firmament you fucking idion. Read it in CONTEXT. Fucking idiot. You read the context you fucking idiot. Above the firmament is water! There are three heavens, that's why paul said he was brought into third heaven. The lowest heaven is the one, the birds fly in. The next one is the firmament which was called by God himself heaven on the second day. And the highest and third heaven is the kingdom of heaven, the place God himself and his son and the armies of angels dwell in. There is no dimensions, no space, no universe, God is above us literally and when he says he looks down on earth it is meant literally. So next time you guys celebrate your pagan's new years eve, think about in which direction you shoot your rockets at. And no the firmament is not the "atmosphere" it is solid and has windows, which where opened when God send the flood over the world. 1 Book Moses 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. All your catholic science propaganda is worth nothing. lmao, at least Slovania is on the globe earth you fucking idiot now go pray to santa clause to send you a brain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76138996 Australia 04/11/2024 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? Mazzaroth Quoting: Humanitarianlike Mazzaroth is a Biblical Hebrew Word found in the Book of Job (38:32) and literally meaning "constellations," according to 10th-century biblical exegete Saadia Gaon,[1] while others interpret the word as Garland of Crowns,[2] but its context is that of Astronomical Constellations, and it is often interpreted as a term for the Zodiac or the Constellations thereof.[3] (Job 38:31–32). [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? yes Job 31:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? . is there any mention of antares in your scriptures..? or altair? don't be weird. Just answer the question asked...if you can.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84739465 United States 04/11/2024 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If there is no Space, why does Scripture mention Mazzaroth (our Zodiac), Orion and the Pleiades? If you think we live on a ball spinning a thousand miles per hour at the equator, circling the Sun at over four thousand miles an hour, with curved water all held down by gravity, you should go take the crash course at flat earth Dave dot com. Then if you can prove the globe, win three bit coins. Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes It's flat and everything you learned in your indoctrination centers is not true. There are some partial truths, but it really just keeps you in cognitive dissonance. You know, the joke was funny at first when we were all in on it. Now you’ve all taken it too far and it’s just tedious, and quite frankly annoying. |