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The Rapture - Things Have Changed. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82346873  United States11/20/2023 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83547535  Japan11/20/2023 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is explicitly stated in every gospel that only the one who knows what sees will be saved. Those who are identified with the "I" that wants to be saved will not be saved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83547535 You cannot and will not give us one explicit quote from each of the four gospels saying what you say. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will save it. Luke 9:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in Spirit and in truth. Luke 9:24 [Not in the false identity of the thinking and believing mind of the flesh] If one be consciously losing their life; aware of the fact that in the act of losing it; they will obtain this undefined state called "salvation"; then one can accurately claim they they are IN THE OVERT ACT OF SAVING THEIR LIFE; and thus they fall into Part One of the injunction; do they not? That sounds like it, but what is meant is what I had already written before, that only the false identification with the carnal identity is given up and the actual identity in the spirit is recognized. So an apparent life is sacrificed in order to reach the real life. Incidentally, this is also the metaphor of Jesus' death on the cross. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the Galilean called me a farm animal to My Face; I would kick him in the balls; and he would know not to make the mistake again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86546000 Jesus Christ saves, now you can spit on the ground. He hath saved no one; except perhaps himself... Like all cowards.... How do we know? Because people continue to DROP DEAD. With great frequency and regularity. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. In fact the whole Inquistion was based on the adoresaid propostion: CONFESS OR ELSE YOU GO TO THE STAKE! That was quite the nadir for civilized humanity. Though we seem to be regressing back to it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86548544 United States11/20/2023 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prosecutors and persecutors ask questions. Because they believe themselves fit to pass judgement. But since the breadth of their insight when laid against all wisdom is really little more than the distance between their toes vis a vis the span of the galaxy; the absurdity of it all quickly comes into view. It represents a total delusion on their part. He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" True believers in Jesus Christ never reject an opportunity to testify of their faith in Him. Those that do not truly believe always weasel out of testifying of any faith in Him. That's not true at all! I overtly reject Jesus Christ and his dreadful Galilean Cult; I spit on that crapulous creed. Now why? I mean I must have a reason? The Christian cult creates a nation of docile; obedient and most importantly INERT AND THOROUGHLY RECEPTIVE SERFS. The Cult of the Galilean encourages self-hatred (original sin; "something is very very wrong with me!"); ignorance ("You must be as little children"); eschewing judgement and exercising powers of discernment ("judge not!") docility (Romans 13:1); obedience ("render unto Caesar") lack of resistance to evil ("turn the other cheek" "love your enemies") hatred of sex and all the other joys of life ("worry about Heaven; not earth!) and the absurdity of "pity" where the weak and the botched are venerated; while the strong and the wise are denounced. And more; much much more! So what's not true? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86546000 Prosecutors and persecutors ask questions. Because they believe themselves fit to pass judgement. But since the breadth of their insight when laid against all wisdom is really little more than the distance between their toes vis a vis the span of the galaxy; the absurdity of it all quickly comes into view. It represents a total delusion on their part. He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" True believers in Jesus Christ never reject an opportunity to testify of their faith in Him. Those that do not truly believe always weasel out of testifying of any faith in Him. That's not true at all! I overtly reject Jesus Christ and his dreadful Galilean Cult; I spit on that crapulous creed. Now why? I mean I must have a reason? The Christian cult creates a nation of docile; obedient and most importantly INERT AND THOROUGHLY RECEPTIVE SERFS. The Cult of the Galilean encourages self-hatred (original sin; "something is very very wrong with me!"); ignorance ("You must be as little children"); eschewing judgement and exercising powers of discernment ("judge not!") docility (Romans 13:1); obedience ("render unto Caesar") lack of resistance to evil ("turn the other cheek" "love your enemies") hatred of sex and all the other joys of life ("worry about Heaven; not earth!) and the absurdity of "pity" where the weak and the botched are venerated; while the strong and the wise are denounced. And more; much much more! So what's not true? This part: "always weasel out of testifying of any faith in Him." The notion that I am beating around the bush. Not at all. I say what I think. I mean what I say. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86548544 United States11/20/2023 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. In fact the whole Inquistion was based on the adoresaid propostion: CONFESS OR ELSE YOU GO TO THE STAKE! That was quite the nadir for civilized humanity. Though we seem to be regressing back to it. So questioning is good then, right? Catholics preach obedience to the Pope and the traditions of Rome. What does that have to do with believing in Jesus Christ? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. In fact the whole Inquistion was based on the adoresaid propostion: CONFESS OR ELSE YOU GO TO THE STAKE! That was quite the nadir for civilized humanity. Though we seem to be regressing back to it. So questioning is good then, right? Catholics preach obedience to the Pope and the traditions of Rome. What does that have to do with believing in Jesus Christ? I must confess I do not recall (*nor see) the connection to the original point at hand; so maybe you can refresh my memory... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will add this... You want to belive in "Jesus Christ"; no one is going to encumber you in that endeavor...I might tell you such a way of thinking is foolishness as a course of advice or general critique; because we are on a MESSSAGE BOARD; whose reason for existence is to share thoughts. However; Christianity refuses to stop at that threshold unlike superior religions / philosophies such as Buddhism or Confucianism; philosophies that really make no overt effort to FORCE THEIR RELIGION ON EVERY ONE ELSE; AND TO MAKE THE PUBLIC LAW BOOKS REFLECT THEIR RELIGION; WHETHER THE NON CHRISTIAN LIKES IT OR NOT. That is where we have a problem. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86548544 United States11/20/2023 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is explicitly stated in every gospel that only the one who knows what sees will be saved. Those who are identified with the "I" that wants to be saved will not be saved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83547535 You cannot and will not give us one explicit quote from each of the four gospels saying what you say. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will save it. Luke 9:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in Spirit and in truth. Luke 9:24 [Not in the false identity of the thinking and believing mind of the flesh] Matthew 16:25, Mark 8:35, John 12:25, Luke 17:36 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. Matthew 16:25 Amen. "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel's will save it. Mark 8:35 Amen. "He who loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. John 12:25 Amen. "Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left." Luke 17:36 Amen. I believe Jesus. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86548544 United States11/20/2023 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. What gun to your head?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "He who loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. John 12:25 Amen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you want to keep something you hate? And why is this judgemental and nasty little entity from Bethlehem so very determined to DESTROY someone who derives satisfaction from their own existence? Mind your own goddamn business carpenter. If you are to prevail; it will only be through brute force that you succeeed - no grand; objective truth do you represent. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86548544 United States11/20/2023 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. What gun to your head?! It is a metaphor. And when you ponder the Inquisition and the witch trials; a quite accurate one. A dyanimic that would return in 72 hours if the church were not restraiend by secular forces. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86546000 United States11/20/2023 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fear not when these words are spoken. I shall save ye from the wicked; thou shalt never be imprisoned, though you shall be feared. Thou shalt never be attacked bodily, though thou shalt be reproached to your face and behind your back. Let the fools mistake the Truth for falsehood. Thou must do as I have written. Friends and acquaintances, relatives, close and distant, shall know and despise what thou art. Despise? Yes! but only for your superiority. Thy beauty shall outshine their dim and dire fatalism. Their God shall cringe at the sound of these words. The more intelligent shall fall into a frenzy of confusion. ___Liber 718 |
Judethz
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86548628 Japan11/20/2023 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. What gun to your head?! the threat of eternal hell fire? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86548544 United States11/20/2023 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. What gun to your head?! the threat of eternal hell fire? Is it real? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86548628 Japan11/20/2023 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86546000 I question all the time. But I do not indict or put a gun to someone's head and DEMAND they tell me "do you believe" or "do you not believe". That is irrelevant; for what a person believes is THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I question facts and truth and history; not something as absurd as the transient thoughts traversing the jasmine of some random person's mind. What gun to your head?! the threat of eternal hell fire? Is it real? only in one's own mind |
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Thankyou.