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User ID: 389670 United States 05/12/2008 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just going to say "not at the epicenter", but your advice was much more helpful. Well it seems so real I can see it And it seems so real I can feel it And it seems so real I can taste it And it seems so real I can hear it So why can't I touch it? So why can't I touch it? Twatter: [link to twitter.com] |
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User ID: 328162 United States 05/12/2008 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ========================================================= Quoting: TexLittlefieldSent: Monday, May 12, 2008 Subject: Where to be During an Earthquake Remember that stuff about hiding under a table or standing in a doorway?? Well, this guy has a completely reverse opinion. This is very interesting, different from what we were all taught. Directly opposite of what we've been taught over the years! I can remember in school being told to, 'duck and cover' or stand in a doorway during an earthquake. This guy's findings are absolutely amazing. I hope we all remember his survival method if we are ever in an earthquake!!! EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE' My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake. I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries.. I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters. The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide under something. Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the 'triangle of life'. The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the 'triangles' you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building. TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY 1) Most everyone who simply 'ducks and covers' WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed. 2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake.. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it. 3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs. 4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on The back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake. 5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair. 6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed! 7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different 'moment of frequency' (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads - horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged. 8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked. 9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway.. The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them. 10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper. Spread the word and save someone's life... The Entire world is experiencing natural calamities so be prepared! ================================== thanks op Who so boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain. |
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Surflife User ID: 434658 United States 05/17/2008 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This man (Doug Copp) is a fraud. Just Google him and see all of the articles about how he causes more harm than good when "rescuing" people, he inflates his stories, apparently received money from the 9-11 victims fund FRAUDULENTLY, has duped unfortunate trusting people for thousands of dollars, claims to have "the first" dead body detecting machine which is actually just a gas detector and you can no longer buy on their website. The department of justice is investigating him for fraud and his "tips" are potentially deadly. Please stick with the REAL experts like the Red Cross. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 425656 United Kingdom 05/17/2008 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This man (Doug Copp) is a fraud. Quoting: Surflife 434658Just Google him and see all of the articles about how he causes more harm than good when "rescuing" people, he inflates his stories, apparently received money from the 9-11 victims fund FRAUDULENTLY, has duped unfortunate trusting people for thousands of dollars, claims to have "the first" dead body detecting machine which is actually just a gas detector and you can no longer buy on their website. The department of justice is investigating him for fraud and his "tips" are potentially deadly. Please stick with the REAL experts like the Red Cross. [link to www.abqjournal.com] |
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User ID: 434700 Netherlands 05/17/2008 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was watching a television report on the Mexico City earthquake and saw bulldozers approaching a collapsed building. Copp, who has said that he worked for demolition companies in the early 1980s, said he realized that anyone trapped in that building alive would be killed. He went to Mexico City and began his career as a volunteer responder to earthquakes, hurricanes, landslides, tornadoes and other disasters. Seven years later, Copp was living in Alameda, Calif., and had organized his American Rescue Team International when he criticized the state of California's approach to earthquake safety, saying that people who "duck and cover" as the state recommended would be killed. He advocated a technique called the "triangle of life," a phrase he coined, in which people in earthquakes are supposed to get next to solid objects such as beds or desks instead of under them for safety. He pointed to his Mexico City experience to support his claim. When a county official sent an inter-office memo to his staff saying Copp's advice was "nonsense," Copp sued for defamation. Copp lost the case and the Superior Court judge ordered him to pay about $4,800 in court costs. Copp appealed and also lost on appeal." |
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User ID: 547430 Canada 11/13/2008 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This man (Doug Copp) is a fraud. Quoting: Surflife 434658Just Google him and see all of the articles about how he causes more harm than good when "rescuing" people, he inflates his stories, apparently received money from the 9-11 victims fund FRAUDULENTLY, has duped unfortunate trusting people for thousands of dollars, claims to have "the first" dead body detecting machine which is actually just a gas detector and you can no longer buy on their website. The department of justice is investigating him for fraud and his "tips" are potentially deadly. Please stick with the REAL experts like the Red Cross. Sad but my conception of physics tell me that he's right. The world woud be a thousand times better place if more cults existed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558 |