Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55036831 Canada 06/09/2023 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering He didn't master EV til he went to China. Soduin ion batteries are next shht. No more Lithuim mining. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55036831 Bullshit. There's a very simple reason sodium ion batteries are not used in cellphones, power tools, basically everything... Because the current technology is very new and they are just commercializing it this year? As with any new tech -- we will have to see how it does in real life, but if it pans out it will certainly displace lithium is a number of applications. It won't matter to Americans. Democrats will mandate zero emissions, China-only component supply with government employees as the only priority. Conservative Christian heterosexuals will be banned from anything resembling freedom of movement or access to any part of infrastructure supply chains. Also, we will be dealing with radioactive craters where our asshole blue cities used to be. The only sodium ion tech we will be worrying about is getting enough salt to eat. :starving: The tech was already here, but was monopolized by the West. China is the only one forcing it to come out just like. If you see China build starships. You should be happy. Then the gov will finally make excuse to build starships. Was here since 2015. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Chinese commercialization is breaking up the monopoly and force it out. [link to finance-commerce.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 80494230 United States 06/09/2023 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering The degrees for Electrical Engineering are often WEAK in background. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85304307 I'll explain. Electrical Engineering is generation, distribution to loads...with different draws and modes, but mostly about heavy load work. Such education is useful, but the degree MUST be refined into at least 20th century relevance as ELECTRONICS ENGINEERING. That is defined as as mastering the myriad complex applications using electron control devices. These are applied everywhere since 1870s, first big one was carbon granule microphone used for telephony on DC circuit. Much more significant was Lee DeForest's triode, with actual voltage gain. With that began "active" device applications, yet EE degrees now leave graduates with massive knowledge gaps in understanding technology. But he's correct, the energy density and costs MIGHT make sense for some people, but actually environmentally negated by the current gluttonous model of leasing vehicles or buying new every 3-4 years. Even EE degrees are now compromised by political pressure. I graduated in 1992 with a BSEE. It was mostly physics and chemistry - focused on electronic behavior of semiconductors and other components, with some applied design in different technologies -- There was a class on signal transmisison theory, with matching loads for power and so forth, but it was hardly the focus. Power distribution is only a small subset of what they teach. There are gaps - especially in tech that had become obsolete- but any EE sitting down with an old copy of Audels guide can fill those in pretty easily. The operation of a EV is pretty dang simple compared to the complexity of other things I was taught. At the individual level, EVs are fine if you need a commuter vehicle.. but given the cost of battery replacement and of the original vehicle, I question if they really make economic sense. From a CO2 footprint perspective ( I think AGW is BS) depending where in the lifecycle you are, they start to have a smaller footprint than a new Gas vechile around 60,000 miles. But you replace the batter between 8-16 years.. and that is 80% of the cars's original footprint added in again. Charge from fossil fuel soruces and its prettly close to a wash. Last Edited by Weisshaupt on 06/09/2023 12:04 PM |
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User ID: 73802882 Canada 06/09/2023 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering First they told you to buy a gasoline car, then they told you to get en electric car to protect the environment, next will be "oops guess electric cars aren't so good" so you'll own nothing |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83919012 Norway 06/09/2023 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering EV trucks being built for the consumer market have two banks of batteries with a total combined weight of 8,000 pounds! Let me say that again! 8,000 pounds of lithium batteries per consumer-sized EV truck! California requires all semi trucks be EV by 2024...that's just six months from now. How many banks of batts will those trucks need? 30,000 pounds of lithium batts per truck? And what about the charging stations. One (1) 4-megawatt charging station would draw more power than a small city requires in 24-hours. (Am I exaggerating here? These numbers are from the top of my head.) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85913678 United States 06/09/2023 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering EV trucks being built for the consumer market have two banks of batteries with a total combined weight of 8,000 pounds! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83919012 Let me say that again! 8,000 pounds of lithium batteries per consumer-sized EV truck! California requires all semi trucks be EV by 2024...that's just six months from now. How many banks of batts will those trucks need? 30,000 pounds of lithium batts per truck? And what about the charging stations. One (1) 4-megawatt charging station would draw more power than a small city requires in 24-hours. (Am I exaggerating here? These numbers are from the top of my head.) I'm excited about all the fires about to commence in CA |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83919012 Norway 06/09/2023 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering The problem with EVs is they are powering them up the wrong way. HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS is the right way. But they need to figure out how hydrogen will be safely stored in a car (especially when the vehicle is involved in an accident), how to produce an efficient AND inexpensive fuel cell, along with the infrastructure to provide hydrogen on demand. |
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User ID: 84094262 United States 06/09/2023 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering Don't have to be a genius as he is... To know that this cannot work... Knew it from years ago... Almost nothing can be cheaper than oil... Diesel cars only way to go... Romans 14:11 It is written: “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God. Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85481390 United States 06/09/2023 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering 25,000 for a new battery in about 8-10 years doesn't get me hyped up to run out and buy one of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83355019 Now if the government wants to buy me one, sure I'll take it. If you are talking FIAT bux, look on the bright side. In 8-10 years a cheeseburger will cost more than 25k. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76114688 United States 06/09/2023 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85942756 United Kingdom 06/09/2023 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering The problem with EVs is they are powering them up the wrong way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83919012 HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS is the right way. But they need to figure out how hydrogen will be safely stored in a car (especially when the vehicle is involved in an accident), how to produce an efficient AND inexpensive fuel cell, along with the infrastructure to provide hydrogen on demand. splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen is the way such a shame every time somebody invents an efficient way to do it... it gets stolen/suppressed and they have a fatal accident |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84892105 United States 06/09/2023 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering Rowan Atkinson is a libtard tosser. I look at this as an example of the phrase "even a broken clock is right twice a day". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83807113 You are too dumb to quote the axiom correctly. It's "a stopped clock is right twice a day" .. For those who quote it incorrectly A broken clock may never be right. For example one that runs slow or fast. |
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You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 81055323 United States 06/09/2023 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering The actor and comedian behind the popular Mr. Bean character has called on drivers to hold off buying an electric vehicle (EV), saying the environmental benefits do not stack up. Quoting: Coastie Patriot Rowan Atkinson, a long-time motor enthusiast with a degree and master’s in electrical engineering, said current EV technology was more harmful to the environment than it was worth. “Increasingly, I’m feeling that our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an end, and that’s no bad thing: we’re realising that a wider range of options need to be explored if we’re going to properly address the very serious environmental problems that our use of the motor car has created,” Atkinson wrote in The Guardian newspaper. He pointed to figures released by automotive giant Volvo revealing that greenhouse gas emissions during the EV production process were 70 percent higher than building a petrol car. “How so?” Atkinson said. “The problem lies with the lithium-ion batteries fitted currently to nearly all-electric vehicles: they’re absurdly heavy, huge amounts of energy are required to make them, and they are estimated to last only upwards of 10 years. He also pointed to current efforts to develop newer technologies, like solid-state batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, and synthetic fuels, but noted more time was needed before they became mainstream. Atkinson said a bigger problem beyond technology was the current three-year leasing model for car ownership, where owners move onto a new car at the end of the timeframe. “This seems an outrageously profligate use of the world’s natural resources when you consider what great condition a three-year-old car is in,” Atkinson said, saying owners could just learn to use their cars for longer instead, effectively lowering demand for new vehicles. [link to www.theepochtimes.com (secure)] Rowan is right. Anyone who cares about the environment will not get an electric or hybrid car. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
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White heteropatriarchal supremacist chemophob User ID: 85919618 United States 06/09/2023 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering The problem with EVs is they are powering them up the wrong way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83919012 HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS is the right way. But they need to figure out how hydrogen will be safely stored in a car (especially when the vehicle is involved in an accident), how to produce an efficient AND inexpensive fuel cell, along with the infrastructure to provide hydrogen on demand. --------------- Don't care. Still voting Trump! ---------- |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85928987 United Kingdom 06/09/2023 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering Rowan Atkinson is a libtard tosser. I look at this as an example of the phrase "even a broken clock is right twice a day". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83807113 err no, despite being Britain's most popular comedian he has been non-personed by the leftozoids for decades - along with all of Britains other popular comedians, who wouldn't pay lipservice to woke lefitist insanity. John Cleese Rick Mayall, Jeremy Clarkson, Benny Hill, Harry Enfield. |
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You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 81055323 United States 06/09/2023 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mr. Bean (atkinson) Actor Says the Electric Car ‘Honeymoon’ Is Over. Benefits dont add up. He has masters in elctrical engineering Rowan Atkinson is a libtard tosser. I look at this as an example of the phrase "even a broken clock is right twice a day". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83807113 err no, despite being Britain's most popular comedian he has been non-personed by the leftozoids for decades - along with all of Britains other popular comedians, who wouldn't pay lipservice to woke lefitist insanity. John Cleese Rick Mayall, Jeremy Clarkson, Benny Hill, Harry Enfield. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |