What Is Your Soul? Is it a spirit creature detachable from your physical body, or is that the devil's 'immortality' deception?

It is a piece of made up fiction.. grow up.. little kiddies.. ain't no sky wizard

Jesus taught to fear God who can destroy both body and soul in hell. If the soul is destroyed in hell, what are you saying?

Spirit and Soul are similar in construct as Mind and Body in the physical. The Bible has all sorts of thoughts about this and that, but really you need to be able to answer your question for yourself. I recommend you look up Robert Monroe Institute and try working on getting out of your body while conscious and it will answer a lot of questions for you. Although it will generate more questions, but they will be different questions.

I will never understand how people would worship or blindly follow text that says that after having lived on this planet with all the evil crap that goes on here that if you don't somehow do it right you get to suffer in hell for all eternity. First that's just cruel and second, at the point of eternity time collapse so how's that even possible.

It is more likely we come here to actually be allowed to make mistakes and learn and observe how different actions create different results to grow our soul into something worth having in the first place. I think the bible also talks about this as well in that the after world was created for us and this world is allowed to exist in all its evil to test/grow the soul. Who knows, but let your inner world guide you and let your heart be your compass and take everything physical with a grain of salt. Just do your best, you will be fine.

I wish you peace on your journey.

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Sounds to me like the Bible is saying body and soul are two separate things and that the soul can continue to live after the body is killed or dies.

Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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No God need be involved.

No God need be involved.

I have been told that the nature of the work of ages is the will of the spirit to govern the soul. This suggests that the spirit and soul are two distinct entities and are dependent on each other.
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“Soul” and “Spirit”—What Do These Terms Really Mean?


WHEN you hear the terms “soul” and “spirit,” what comes to your mind? Many believe that these words mean something invisible and immortal that exists inside us. They think that at death this invisible part of a human leaves the body and lives on. Since this belief is so widespread, many are surprised to learn that it is not at all what the Bible teaches. What, then, is the soul, and what is the spirit, according to God’s Word?
“SOUL” AS USED IN THE BIBLE

For later.

All religions teach the same thing. You have body which interacts with the physical. The body is mortal it only can engage with the physical directly. You then have mind, mind exists on its own separate from the body yet attached to the body through the brain. The body being mortal will die The mind being separate but attached to the body can remain conscious for quite a period after physical death. Yet mind too dissolves. You then have your astral or spirit body that is immortal. People who practice remote viewing, astral projection are very familiar with this. The astral / spiritual body is incapable of interacting with the physical because it lacks matter/substance. The soul is largely used to describe the aspects of self that exist beyond body and mind. There are two other aspects of our spirit body when you are able to see into the etheric and the akashic. However the self dissolves with every state. Until one realizes that it is almost indistinguishable an individual soul from what we call God / greater consciousness / collective consciousness / universal mind.

You are not a soul, the soul is the vessel that puts you into a body container. Many thing are put into containers..

90% AI NPC
9% Wardens/MiB/Controllers
1% ISBN Immortal Spiritual Beings

Religion was written by the wardens to keep you dumb..

Hell is an imaginary place for the purpose of fear control

This ISBN prison is as close to the fictional hell as it gets

Human bodies are just containers

“SOUL” AS USED IN THE BIBLE

First, consider the soul. You may remember that the Bible was originally written mainly in Heb..w and Greek. When writing about the soul, the Bible writers used the He..ew word nephesh or the Greek word psykheʹ. These two words occur well over 800 times in the Scriptures, and the New World Translation renders them “soul,” either in the main text or in footnotes. When you examine the way “soul” or “souls” is used in the Bible, it becomes evident that this word basically refers to (1) people, (2) animals, or (3) the life that a person or an animal has. Let us consider some scriptures that present these three different senses.

People. “In Noah’s day . . . a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water.” (1 Peter 3:20) Here the word “souls” clearly stands for people—Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives. Exodus 16:16 mentions instructions given to the Israelites regarding the gathering of manna. They were told to gather it “according to the number of the people [“souls,” footnote]” that each of them had in his tent. So the amount of manna that was gathered was based on the number of people in each family. Some other Biblical examples of the application of “soul” or “souls” to a person or to people are in the footnotes found at Genesis 46:18; Joshua 11:11; Acts 27:37; and Romans 13:1.

Animals. In the Bible’s creation account, we read: “Then God said: ‘Let the waters swarm with living creatures [“souls,” footnote], and let flying creatures fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.’ Then God said: ‘Let the earth bring forth living creatures [“souls,” footnote] according to their kinds, domestic animals and creeping animals and wild animals of the earth according to their kinds.’ And it was so.” (Genesis 1:20, 24) In this passage, fish, domestic animals, and wild animals are all referred to by the same word—“souls.” Birds and other animals are called souls in the footnotes found at Genesis 9:10; Leviticus 11:46; and Numbers 31:28.

Spirit is to soul as body is to brain or mind. What is recorded in the physical brain is also recorded in the soul. After death the soul holds the knowledge and memory that was in the brain. The spirit becomes the soul’s new body after the physical body has died.
That’s why the terminology ‘spirits of dead people’.
The spirit is the dead person’s body, and the soul is the brain or mind of that body.

Meanwhile while Satan's fanciful original lie takes his worshipers down with him Divine truth prevails, only among the brave;
I have also seen this under the sun: In the place of justice there was wickedness, and in the place of righteousness there was wickedness. 17 So I said in my heart: “The true God will judge both the righteous and the wicked, for there is a time for every activity and every action.”
18 I also said in my heart about the sons of men that the true God will test them and show them that they are like animals, 19 for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals; they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit. So man has no superiority over animals, for everything is futile. 20 All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust. Ecc3:16

Prove it.

THE “SPIRIT” IDENTIFIED

Let us now consider the Bible’s use of the term “spirit.” Some people think that “spirit” is just another word for “soul.” However, that is not the case. The Bible makes clear that “spirit” and “soul” refer to two different things. How do they differ?

Bible writers used the Heb..w word ruach or the Greek word pneuma when writing about the “spirit.” The Scriptures themselves indicate the meaning of those words. For instance, Psalm 104:29 states: “If you [Jehovah] take away their spirit [ruach], they die and return to the dust.” And James 2:26 notes that “the body without spirit [pneuma] is dead.” In these verses, then, “spirit” refers to that which gives life to a body. Without spirit, the body is dead. Therefore, in the Bible the word ruach is translated not only as “spirit” but also as “force,” or life-force. For example, concerning the Flood in Noah’s day, God said: “I am going to bring floodwaters upon the earth to destroy from under the heavens all flesh that has the breath [ruach] of life.” (Genesis 6:17; 7:15, 22) “Spirit” thus refers to an invisible force (the spark of life) that animates all living creatures.

The soul and the spirit are not the same. The body needs the spirit in much the same way as a radio needs electricity—in order to function. To illustrate this further, think of a portable radio. When you put batteries in a portable radio and turn it on, the electricity stored in the batteries brings the radio to life, so to speak. Without batteries, however, the radio is dead. So is another kind of radio when it is unplugged from an electric outlet. Similarly, the spirit is the force that brings our body to life. Also, like electricity, the spirit has no feeling and cannot think. It is an impersonal force. But without that spirit, or life-force, our bodies “die and return to the dust” as the psalmist stated.

Speaking about man’s death, Ecclesiastes 12:7 states: “The dust [of his body] returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.” When the spirit, or life-force, leaves the body, the body dies and returns to where it came from—the earth. Comparably, the life-force returns to where it came from—God. (Job 34:14, 15; Psalm 36:9) This does not mean that the life-force actually travels to heaven. Rather, it means that for someone who dies, any hope of future life rests with Jehovah God. His life is in God’s hands, so to speak. Only by God’s power can the spirit, or life-force, be given back so that a person may live again.

How comforting it is to know that this is exactly what God will do for all of those resting in “the memorial tombs”! (John 5:28, 29) At the time of the resurrection, Jehovah will form a new body for a person sleeping in death and bring it to life by putting spirit, or life-force, in it. What a joyful day that will be!

How comforting it is to know that this is exactly what God will do for all of those resting in “the memorial tombs”! (John 5:28, 29) At the time of the resurrection, Jehovah will form a new body for a person sleeping in death and bring it to life by putting spirit, or life-force, in it. What a joyful day that will be!

If you would like to learn more about the terms “soul” and “spirit” as used in the Bible, you will find valuable information in the brochure What Happens to Us When We Die? and on pages 375-384 of the book Reasoning From the Scriptures, both published by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Your Soul, Your Spirit and the Hereafter

PERHAPS you have experienced the empty feeling that comes with losing a loved one in death. On such occasions most persons feel not only sad but also very helpless. It is only natural to wonder: What happens to a person when he dies? Is he still conscious somewhere? Is there a real hope that the dead will live again? The Bible contains a comforting answer to these questions.

I believe consciousness exists beyond your mind, but the mind is the receiver. If your mind becomes damaged you damage the connection to consciousness so it's only partially received. I'm just speculating so no sources.

Like someone said already, consciousness is not made of matter.

I believe "made from dust" is an allegory for "made from the Earth", as in we were produced from materials native to Earth.

You're killing me here, If the mind is a receiver what's your transmitter?

How does it work then with the 144,000 who you say do go to heaven? Wouldn’t they have to have a separate spirit/soul that is distinct and separate from their physical body in order to be able to live in heaven?

No, great question, that's what happens when they die, they are spontaneously transformed from physical to spirit creatures as Paul explained the transformation;

But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed, 52in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we will be changed. For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality. 54But when this which is corruptible puts on incorruption and this which is mortal puts on immortality, then the saying that is written will take place: “Death is swallowed up forever.” 55“Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting? 1Cor15:50

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