Sincere heartfelt help needed...this may open a can of worms, but please, would you express your understanding, all are welcome to comment

personally i dont see why you need a saviour or messiah to reach god. There is no need for a middleman.

Why does the phone always ring when you're in the bathtub?

Never bothers me, we have a shower only; I let it ring out, if its important, they'll leave a message or call back!

Jesus words in the Bible have such a ring of truth and authority(as He says we will be judged by His words, it's really important to get to know what he says)

Trust Jesus ... pray to the father in His name... believe

Justice/judgment will be worked out later(give it all to Him)

I was born into a Christian family. Was baptized as well. Had a very religious grandmother who passed away some years ago whom I felt was the best person I have ever known, and still believe this.

I chose not to be religious simply because of the organization that churches belong to or that churches represent. I wish not to be part of a collective population that bows down to a god known from a book. I do not think atheists are right either since I do believe in a supernatural being, yet choose not to worship anyone in particular.

I do pray (more like talk to either my psyche or whoever is listening). I would still go to church once in a while (not for anything in particular but to feel better; I feel something great after church). I would still wear a cross.

But I just don't agree with the current state of organized religion. Though I tolerate and respect anyones and everyones views on religion.

It also angers me once in a while when I think about what has caused all the wars in the past and the present, and what might cause new ones in the future. Religion is laced into these wars as though it's common practice to do so.. which unfortunately it is. Muslim extremists are one example. Evangelicals are another.

It does sadden me that both groups of people look up to a god that is in fact perhaps the one & only god there is. Yet they fight and kill one another.

Does that answer your quest?

Those are all great questions. Can't wait to see answers.

Find a quiet room...get down on your knees...clear your mind of all of the chatter, and talk to God. Tell Him everything that is bothering you. Ask Him all of these questions...thank Him for the opportunity to come to Him and to bring all of it to Him...then just wait in silence for that still small voice to quietly begin to fill you with answeres throughout your day, and when the answers begin to come, don't forget to thank Him and praise Him in awe and wonder for becoming real to you:) :rose:

So why don't the Minsters of Christ/Pastors/Reverend's (shepherds) etc, jump up and down, and get on the air saying that all other 'beliefs' are offensive and blasphemous to them? Don't the Muslims jump up and down if their 'prophet' is ridiculed in any way. Is Mohammed worthy of worship? Is he God's only real prophet?

Why do God's shepherds sit back like cowards and refuse to shout out that Christ is the only one true God, in their 'comfortable church lives'. Where's their guts?
Which cross do they take up daily? Which verses do they use 'when it suits them', yet deny the other many hundreds that may confront/convict their hidden sins/secret lives?

Do they think Christ really isn't watching ALL THEY DO and say?

Whose reputation is tarnished when the Benny Hinn's, or that other guy who had sex/drugs proved to be in his 'other life'?

Why do people blame God for the things that mankind does?

Your answer is appreciated, but Im a laymen, not a theologian, your language is like speaking dutch to a japanese.

Thanks, wonderful comments.

Please by the way GLPs, I love this site, Im not angry, or meaning to sound 'abrupt', I just so thank you for all of your opinions.

First of all. I am a Christian. Why? When I was saved I asked Jesus to come into my heart, and he did. I felt totally different, the world looked compeletly different.

I believe in my Bible, always have, but now more then ever, I see the prophecies of my Bible coming true.

"Where is your God when children starve, the elderly are abused, the innocent are murdered or taken advantage off, etc etc."

There is a time when the world becomes so evil and full of sin, that God steps back and allows evil to take over. I believe we living that time now.

"Why do Muslims deny Christ? "
They believe Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of God.


"And why are Christians so sure that their Christ is the only way to receive eternal life."
We believe that this is the truth. The truth told by Jesus's deciples(followers when he was here on earth). There is historic accounts through history, in all types of religions and cultures, of Jesus being here on earth. Most can agree he was here. But many cant agree on whether he was the Son of God. I look at it this way. Yes Faith is needed. Just Faith. But also one thing stands out to me. Jesus's deciples told the story of the cruxifiction, and Jesus rising from the grave. This could only be done by the Son of God. Sure, you could say the story was made up by his deciples or whatever. But when you think about it, there is this fact. Jesus's deciples faced torture and death, just by admitting they are a Christian. Many men will follow a lie, and teach lies. How many will actually die for a lie????

"Why do Jehovah's Witnesses deny blood transfusions, deny celebrations, Christmas, birthdays?"
Im not real sure about the blood thing, but the others they deny because they believe they are Pagan rituals, and honestly I see where they are coming from. Though Im not a JW

"Why are the Exclusive Brethren so exclusive and shun all others when the Christ I believe in said "To love as he loves, and and all are His children, to serve others as He serves?"
Why do some churches say they love Christ and yet in their 'clicky circles' look down upon another, they consider less worthy of their time, yet worthy in the sight of God?" I put these together, they have the same answer:

It is not my place to question someone elses salvation, yet it makes you wonder if these people are truly saved. Though in defense, we are all still human, and have sin. These people probably carry alot of baggage from being raised certain ways.

"Why do 'some' churches refuse to marry two people that are in love?"
Not sure exactly what you mean here?

"Will the real God please stand up, will someone help me please, tell me, to be a christian, what does God expect of me as a human here on earth?"

To live as a Christian means, to live a closely to God as possible, to try to encompass the things he would do, the way he would act. Yes we all fall short of that, but we must try. And if we dont, then be humble, and regretful of what we've done wrong. Ask for forgiveness. No you dont have to go to church for this. But church, when you find the right one, does help you remember, and make you think more about the things you should do. It also helps you understand the Bible. Which is also important. You want to pray and ask for understanding in the Bible, so when you read on you own, you understand better. As a Christian you shouldnt turn your back on someone for not being what you are, or what you think is right. God did not do that to us. He loved us anyway, though we werent the perfect children. We are supposed to speak the truth to these people and not turn our backs on them. To bring them to Christ through his word, and as examples.

To become a Christian you have to believe in God, one God, The God. To believe that he sent his son to die on the cross for your sins. To ask for forgivness of those sins through Jesus, and truly feel guilty about them. To ask Jesus to come into your heart and accept him as your Savior.

"Is Christ really coming back? When? Why do others consider His return a complete fable?"

Yes. When? Noone knows the exact day, or hour. But the bible does say we will know the time. The Bible spells it all out exactly. But you need a good Reference Bible, that will bring you to different books of the Bible where descriptions of the end times are located. Its spoken about in other places then just Revelations. Why do others consider his return a complete fable? The Bible says that many will be decieved, by false prophets, false Gods, and False Messiahs. I wish they would believe, but you cant change everyone. All you can do is pray for them. And lead by example.

"Are churches where Christ is only to be found? Is the 'do not forsake the gathering of the brethren' the scripture that will deny me entering heaven? Is that a pre-requisite to salvation?"

No, No and No to all. As said earlier, the right church can help you walk a closer path with God. The only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. Wherever you find him :)

"Why does Pentecostalism flaunt 'prosperity doctrines' as ok, when Christ walked in humility?"

Dont know much about that one. Im still a student myself.

Ok Im thinking you already have a view on the rest, and actually might have had your own view of the questions Ive already answered. Hope this helps someone.

You don't need sincere heartfelt help... you need a lobotomy.

With such a cold heart and words to match, sounds like you've already had one.

You have to be cruel to be kind.

Thanks for your reply.

So if God returns, according to Revelation 6 ..at the end 'let mountains fall upon us rather than face God's wrath'; who are calling to ask this to happen to them?

Where in this world is there a 'Philadelpia' church; again, according to the seven churches mentioned in Revelation, this 'type' of church, is the only one Jesus approved of and was pleased with. Why? What were these 'christians' doing right that other 'christians/churches' aren't?

And if not, why aren't they?


Is tithing a way of making money, a 'using of the scriptures' to make money, some say its wrong some say its not, some say its OT. According to what I've read it says NOT to preach the gospel for money!???

Some people say 'Ask anything in My (God's) name, and it shall be given unto you', the scipture I mean....but they rarely say the last bit from the pulpit 'if you are walking according to My purposes'.???

Why do some believe in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, the callings of Prophet, Teacher, Preacher, Evangelist etc, while some churches teach/preach, that that all stopped after Pentecost? What is a Prophet anyway? How does one know they are? Are they especially special to God (looking at the OT ones, if anyone messed with them, God took those who did outta the planet. And why did those in the OT, and if (prophets exist today), the ones who knew and confessed to believe in God, refuse to listen to prophets words. And why did prophets act so weird, were mocked and jeered at by 'believers', let alone none believers (Jerimiah, Ezekiel, and especially Isaiah come to mind...did really weird things, and said God told them too). How come these kind of men seemed to 'hear/know' God more than others? Were they God's favourites? How does one become a prophet?

I have a huge problem by the way, when I've dared to go to church, I have a very bad 'black and white' blunt mouth problem, and yet, I'm shunned because I'm told 'oh now, don't be too truthful about what God expects'? And THIS is by 'christians'. And why do christians sit in church through a sermon, and next thing on the outside their GOSSIPING about someone in the congregation.

AND MY BIGGEST GRIPE IS THIS...Why is it that they SAY 'women can't preach or teach'? Who said they can't? Paul told women in the church to 'be quiet and wait until they got home to ask their husbands etc yada yada, in my research, BECAUSE Paul was addressing women who were EX Diana worshippers.

And just so I don't sound confused, the very first person to tell people Christ had risen, was A WOMAN, now fancy that, the Lord appeared to an prostitute, whose words seemed to adore Him so very much, and He chose HER to appear to and to go tell others He had risen.

Did Christ have a problem with women speaking?

Or is it a male thing, in 2008 ....STILL!

Thanks again.

Cruelty and kindness, are as different as night and day.

Cruelty is usually a favourite pastime of a Narcissist.

Get real. You never had a bird fly into your window and break it's wings? the kindest thing to do is to kill it as painlessly as possible which is also cruel. Cruelty and kindness are seasoned bedfellows.

Putting an animal/bird if there is no possible way to humanly save it, is HUMANE. In one's heart, there is usually in balanaced normal people COMMON SENSE to show an act of mercy and compassion rather than to allow a suffering animal to linger on in pain until it breathes its last breath.

Cruelty is NEVER humane, it is a far different thing, from a heart that thinks only of oneself.

Narcissim, point blank.

I would see things posted on GLP...things that I wasn't taught to believe...like reincarnation, etc.

About 5 years ago, I started really wondering if what my Christian background taught me was true.

I search the internet, and began to believe that much of it wasn't true. One of the things I came to realiae is that Jesus' blood did not take our sins away.

One day, someone posted a thread that got a lot of flack from the LDS people. Out of curiosity about why the LDS posters was so upset. I went to the link and started reading.

I read the whole thing in 3 days. It verified everything that I had discovered as truth.

The document that I read was the "Sealed" part of the Book of Mormon that had just been translated. The LDS people didn't believe it because the translator was an ex-LDS member, and the document criticized the LDS...as the worst religion in the World....because they had gone so far astray from what the original BoM taught. They added things, and basically invented their own doctrine, as all religions do.

Anyway, that document changed my life, for which I am grateful.

The Document stressed over and over the message of Jesus the Christ...Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Plus, it told of many things the bible left out.

The translator is sharing many more things with us now in a forum type group.

The veil over his memory has been removed. He was given the mission to have the truth on the earth by the year of 2012.

Do you know what the main thing he has taught us? ....It's that we really don't need him to reveal mysteries to us...we can know ourselves all that we have forgotten by the Holy Spirit....and that can come only by living the gospel that Jesus taught.





[link to thesealedportion.com]

You asked for comments, the AC gave his opinion, that's all.

Is there a God, I don't know, many people seem to believe in one.

They seem to benefit from the existance of their God, so good for them.

Others have made a quasiscience their God and believe that over the years of predatory actions allowed for the accumalation of proteins causing their brains to develop the capacity to program their dna with a great deal of complexity, thus an amoeba divided and became a monkey via the magic of stem cells.

I wasn't there when the Earth first showed up, whether God made Earth happened or a space amoebe sneezed, for all I know God could be a space amoeba !.

I don't see the point in praying, if god exists and is watching he already knows what I'm going to pray about. If God doesn't exist, I'm just talking to myself.

If religion makes someone a better person, then I'm all for it. More often than not it does.

[link to www.urantia.org]

Read the Urantia book twice, and call in the morning.

@ OPie - **yawn** - move PAST Beliefs, and get some PROOFS.

Believe what you can prove.

"You asked for comments, the AC gave his opinion, that's all" Yes this was his remark, it was not a helful one, sarcasm is usually hatred of oneself, and it is NEVER encouraging which I believe, IMO, is what the world lacks.

Why do we speak with masks of sarcassm, when in fact, we are fearful of being rejected, so we pursue to put another down due to our OWN insecurity.

That being said, religion is man made, it has nothing to do with a 'relationship' with someone we love. We can be very 'rigid' in a relationship with some one, though over time, it bankrupts one of true initmacy.

We were created to grow with things that lift us up, like encouragment, not sacarssm or cruel deliberate spiteful remarks that tears us down.

I will say this, and again, its just my observation, when the bad guys want their own way (non believers in this instance) they jump up and down and make a whole hullabaloo until they get their own way. Like Muslims, they DEMAND that the world bows down to THEIR precious mohammed, that his is above any mild insult, and they will not tolerate it.
So, the world has changed, and ajusted its 'tolerances' mainly to suit not 'offending' anything with a Muslim stamp on it.

The christians on the other hand, remain silent, I seem them as gutless, and cowards when it comes to shouting out and standing up for the Christ they so called are prepared 'to die for and pick up their cross daily.

In other words, Muslims, die for their faith, be it by atrocious unfair murderous attacks on innocent people, with the belief of some fairytale reward of x amount of virgins (sounds lust motivated by my understanding), so, whether this is right or wrong, and of course, the extremists are themselves inhumanely cold heartedly wrong to commit acts of blowing up innocent people, or BEHEADING a girl just because their Sharia law says 'blah blah blah', and they say that this pleases a loving Holy God? Or how about the mutilation of women's genitals? Or if a woman is raped in the Middle east, unless three witness can prove it was NOT her fault, she is outcasted and becomes 'the shame of the family'. So there you go, God not only, according to that faith, agrees to humiliate, murder and mame women's genetalia, He, according to their 'laws' give the males the honour to do it. A brother or father can KILL a daughter, and the woman just has to cop it!!!

So when will the silent cowardly christians that say they believe in the Justice and Holiness of Christ, stand up for those who have no voice or cannot protect themselves.

I mean, if only the christians has the courage and guts of some of the characters in the bible, could they say 'I follow Christ and would die for my faith'.

>>>Why do Mormons, Catholics and JW's have extra scriptures/another book of their 'church' and yet say their not 'adding to the Bible's words' (revelation 22)???<<



Keep in mind that ALL of the books that are presented in the bible were written individually at separate times. When John the beloved wrote those words, he was referring to THAT book only...Revelation. He had no idea they would create a book out of various writings.

The Bible and the Book of Mormon have 'stumbling' blocks in them...for a reason. Not everyone is ready for the same amount of truth at the same time.

Some things in the bible were changed to read the way they believed. Search Council of Nicea.

OP, if you are really searching for truth,I envite you to start here:

[link to thesealedportion.com]

That book is ONLY the beginning of your search for truth.

Actually, they do not celebrate birthday's and christmas because they believe every day should be a celebration of life through Christ, not just 'special' days. Not sure about the blood thing either, something to do with possibly getting 'unpure' blood. (When they marry someone outside of the faith, either they are thrown out of the church, or their intended must convert.)

I called my cousin. The blood thing is that JW's believe that their body is the 'temple' and if they take transfusions, they run the risk of getting the blood of someone that 'unpure'.

Ok, so if God inspired our minds, according to 2 Tim 3.16, well then, when He inspired/gave the passion to those who chose to be doctors, well now, God must have sent a wrong 'inspiration' to their minds when it came to having the insight of tranfusing blood, that matches, to SAVE a life. So God isn't as I'm led to believe perfect, holy, omnipotent, omnipresent or omnitiscient?

As for marrying outside of 'their man made faith', and the Watchtower is the only 'gospel' they are brainwashed into thinking its the be all and end all, well, so the JW's are ABOVE God's laws? Does'nt God give mankind free will. Have the JW's the same authority as Christ? Did Jesus 'throw out people because they didn't do as He told them to? Did Jesus FORCE people to obey, or else?

Celebrations are cultural, and they have in mind the purpose of relationships, celebrating a coming together of people to enjoy a happy occassion.

Isn't God all for joy and celebration? Wasn't Jesus first miracle at a wedding? Where He turned the water into wine, so the festivities could continue. Sounds to me Jesus enjoyed special occasions, and seeing others happily being in harmony with on another.

I'll tell you what these 'religous' man made 'no no's' of dont do this or dont do that are; its called Legalism!

Jesus died for imperfect people, and then the very grace He afforded to us, is then by legalistic people, like placing a heavy yoke on a person's neck, expecting them to reach perfection, when the only perfect person died for all of our imperfections.

God handed down the truth and the devil said, "Let's organize it and call it religion."

Seems to focus too much on the flesh and world.

I think my point was that you asked for comments. Whether the guy hates himself or not really doesn't bother me in the slightest, the worst it amounts to is that he could be an EMO that's sitting in a dark room slicing himself up. Sorry but his problems aren't mine, so I really couldn't care less !.



I don't know, if some people are that fearful of being rejected then they should log off the internet. People use the supposed anonymity to vent out their frustrations in the real world. I think people are more likely to reject a person over the internet than what they would if they were face to face.



That's crap,(see people do reject others more easily over the internet!) if religion was man made, then God as such would be a psychological entity that we've created to give us a sense of acceptence and affection.
I propose that in that event, that the person we have a relationship with is ourselves!
It's also impossible to be 'rigid' in a relationship, such relationships tend to be unhealthy, in that case it's better to be happy alone.



If we are created, then God exists and religion has it's basis in something other than man. I get the impression you're playing devil's advocate!
Very well, people like encouragement because it makes them 'feel good'. However sarcasm can be used to point out that the person has just stated an rhetorical question that they already know the answer to. In this way the person is ecouraged to think about what was said because sometimes it's better if the person figures out the answer for themself. I.e If a woman asks you. "Does my bum look fat?" You can say. "No, but that skirt has to go on a diet!" She'll huff and puff, then you'll suggest that she wear that shaping underwear you bought her. Then you watch her get changed!



For all I know about religion, Allah could be the 'one true God.' Muslims are like muslims because their religion doesn't allow them to do anything that's fun other than rape and pillage. Most moderate muslims are just like anyone else, if you cut them they bleed. The extremists have nothing to live for so they become the muslim equivalent of an EMO and go blow something up. There's nothing I can say that'll hurt them because it sucks to be them.



Their beliefs state they have to turn the other cheek when someone slugs them. It doesn't say anything about not calling the cops. If you ask me anyone willing to die for their religion is an imbecile, someone that's willing to kill for their religion has they're head screwed on the right way! Someone that's willing to die for their religion is someone that hasn't got anything to live for, so they try to attach some sort of meaning to their death, I think they're losers.



I don't believe anyone is really innocent, everyone has their skeletons in the closet. People will do nearly anything given some motivation and half a reason to do it, whether positive or negative. It's unfortunate that muslims want to blow themselves up, but as long as they're in the middle east, it's not my problem. It is precisely the reasons you've stated above that the American military should stay in Iraq and kill thousands more muslims!



There are thousands of cowardly christians in Iraq, gleefully killing arabs by the thousands. These cowardly christians have stomped an dictator into the dust and hope to bring peace to the arabs there so that they'll stay there and stop blowing up innocent people. There are millions more cowardly christians that support the first bunch of cowardly christians by paying their taxes and keeping the American war machine running!



As I've stated previously, I think people that die for their faith are idiots that deserve to die. Rather than dying for their faith the cowardly christians would rather kill millions of muslims and go home to their families that I'm sure miss them everyday they're away.

Dying for your faith isn't heroic, it's idiotic. The goal of modern warfare isn't to die for your country but rather to make the other guy die for his.