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I am a craftsman baker from France, our vocation is threatened by europe, ask me anything

 
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I’m curious about your flour as compared to flour we have in America, because many people don’t feel well when they eat products with gluten in them. I think our wheat is a different type and a high percentage of our seed is now hybrid and genetically modified. Is France using gmo wheat now too? I hope not.
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I’ve heard that industrial bread is allocated a rise time of 30 minutes while some craft bread are left to rise much longer, giving the gluten time to be worked over by the yeast. This leaves a bread that is more acceptable for folks who are gluten intolerant.
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Hello to you all
It is 3h17 in the morning and this is the time we start to work in france when we really bake and not just warming up frozen pastries from a brand like Banette which is killing our profession.
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Hello France, sorry to hear about the problems, i don't really know what the fix is but i hope you can still make your artisan pastries.
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I’m curious about your flour as compared to flour we have in America, because many people don’t feel well when they eat products with gluten in them. I think our wheat is a different type and a high percentage of our seed is now hybrid and genetically modified. Is France using gmo wheat now too? I hope not.
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I’ve heard that industrial bread is allocated a rise time of 30 minutes while some craft bread are left to rise much longer, giving the gluten time to be worked over by the yeast. This leaves a bread that is more acceptable for folks who are gluten intolerant.
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Interesting!
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There are seven "bakeries" in my city, and not one of them makes bread. All they bake are expensive, artificially flavored cupcakes covered in shortning based frosting from five gallon buckets. So sick of haveing to bake myself to get anything resembling good quality, old fasioned bread.

Any of you with easy access to a real bakery, not a cupcakery, should count yourself lucky and support them regularly.
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I do not know this person
But this is how you work the bread REALLY.


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Wow, amazing talent, is this how you make your bread?

What an art.
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I use the same method but l live in an other region so the ingredients are a little different.
But he is a real baker, and a very nice person
But we use the exact same method.
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Ask you anything?

Where can you find the best macarons to buy online, not necessarily with only ganache filling because I like buttercream too. I would like to buy some good handmade not factory made in China macarons.

I would really like to find the traditional tete de la neg!o pastry but because of the name it probably no longer exists. It was chocolate meringue shells with coffee buttercream holding them together and around the outside, and the whole thing covered with chocolate sprinkles.

In the meantime I search for macarons.
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Ladurée or Lenôtre

Ladurée they contain a lot of sugar so l hope you have a lot of water to drink
Lenôtre if you like unusual tastes and perfumes

You can not find têtes de nègres anymore
There has been some craziness about it because they say it is very racist
No one dare to do this anymore, it is the free world but only if you do what they tell you, it is very funny…!
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Thank you very much for your reply!

I had heard of the Laduree macarons, I thought of ordering some but I am glad you told me they have lots of sugar as I don't like overly sweet bakery items. I will look up the Lenotre macarons! They sound like I might like them especially if they are not too sweet or artificial.

That is sad about the tete de negres. I lived in Nanterre when I was little and that was my favorite pastry as a kid. I always wanted to find them but sadly another tradition comes to an end in the name of political correctness.
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Nanterre nowadays has the same reputation of mexico for drugs
Quite some dangerous city if you like to be safe with your family.
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Hello to you all
It is 3h17 in the morning and this is the time we start to work in france when we really bake and not just warming up frozen pastries from a brand like Banette which is killing our profession.
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Hello France, sorry to hear about the problems, i don't really know what the fix is but i hope you can still make your artisan pastries.
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I will say in 2 or 3 years it will be impossible to continue if they stay on this road with the economy and the general atmosphere in the country.
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There are seven "bakeries" in my city, and not one of them makes bread. All they bake are expensive, artificially flavored cupcakes covered in shortning based frosting from five gallon buckets. So sick of haveing to bake myself to get anything resembling good quality, old fasioned bread.

Any of you with easy access to a real bakery, not a cupcakery, should count yourself lucky and support them regularly.
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Even if you are not a craftsman baker, i prefer to eat what you do
The stores you talk about they would be closed by justice in france
You can not be called a baker if you dont sell bread.
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What dough hydration should I use for a hoagie roll?
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If you can translate hoagie roll please
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It's sort of like a miniature baguette without a crust. Made with GMO American Franken-wheat. No self-respecting French craftsman would ever bake such an abomination.
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There are seven "bakeries" in my city, and not one of them makes bread. All they bake are expensive, artificially flavored cupcakes covered in shortning based frosting from five gallon buckets. So sick of haveing to bake myself to get anything resembling good quality, old fasioned bread.

Any of you with easy access to a real bakery, not a cupcakery, should count yourself lucky and support them regularly.
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Even if you are not a craftsman baker, i prefer to eat what you do
The stores you talk about they would be closed by justice in france
You can not be called a baker if you dont sell bread.
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I prefer to spend time with you and maybe l show you what you can do to have a good result with your oven , than to go at these fake stores and give money to such fraud people. What you do is good and you are a good person.
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What dough hydration should I use for a hoagie roll?
 Quoting: Florida Man


If you can translate hoagie roll please
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84148280


It's sort of like a miniature baguette without a crust. Made with GMO American Franken-wheat. No self-respecting French craftsman would ever bake such an abomination.
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The problem is not because it is american
America has lot of adorable people
The problem in my humble opinion it is the american industry of food
It was talked about the vaccine to depopulate countries
It is true but the real depopulation it is with food people eat these days
It exist for a lot more time than the vaccine and they make a lot more money with this
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What dough hydration should I use for a hoagie roll?
 Quoting: Florida Man


If you can translate hoagie roll please
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84148280


It's sort of like a miniature baguette without a crust. Made with GMO American Franken-wheat. No self-respecting French craftsman would ever bake such an abomination.
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The problem is not because it is american
America has lot of adorable people
The problem in my humble opinion it is the american industry of food
It was talked about the vaccine to depopulate countries
It is true but the real depopulation it is with food people eat these days
It exist for a lot more time than the vaccine and they make a lot more money with this
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yes, I think that's exactly right. It's very sad.
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It seems rather genocidal to be baking craftsmen in an oven.
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Best butter for croissants , pains au chocolat, pains au raisin, brioche parisienne



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It seems rather genocidal to be baking craftsmen in an oven.
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I am not sure that I would be a good dinner honestly
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This is the milk used for this butter to make the croissants pains au chocolat etc..

To do the right products it is a long line and you must know everything that is done in this line
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This is true hand made ingredients

If it is not made like this and you are a tourist and you want to eat the real products, you are being treated like a tourist, not like a guest
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Move to the US!! I know a woman from France who owns a French Patisserie in New Hampshire and is doing very well. People love that stuff over here. She makes everything from scratch. Her son is a pastry chef.
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Great bakers are artists that should be highly treasured.
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[link to maisondesconfitures.fr (secure)]

In the village of Gassin

There is a person who do unique fruit jam

It is considered one of the best in france
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Hello! My 14 year old daughter wants to become a pastry chef one day. What is the best path to get her there? Should she study abroad (France) for a year or two, or are there others paths that would benefit her?

The goal for her is to own small bakery. Thank you for any guidance.
 Quoting: Texas Dave


Your daughter when she has the right age and when she feel like to move for her vocation should go to france for this
In a gault et millau baker or pastry chef according to what she wants
It is the last true manner to learn this job
We choose our flour from farmers
Our butter from people who make their butter themselves using no machine
All these things add up and make the gault millau pastry chefs and bakers
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Move to the US!! I know a woman from France who owns a French Patisserie in New Hampshire and is doing very well. People love that stuff over here. She makes everything from scratch. Her son is a pastry chef.
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In usa i can not have the ingredients that I use here
It costs a lot of money to make these ingredients travel to me and it is just in france.
So if I must make them travel every 5 days to america, I would be ruined in 2 month maybe or I would have to sell what I do at price that are not acceptable for me and also for the clients.
I am not interested really in money, i am interested in what i do and the ingredients that I use
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Great bakers are artists that should be highly treasured.
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In name of craftsmen bakers I say thank you very much!
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Hello! My 14 year old daughter wants to become a pastry chef one day. What is the best path to get her there? Should she study abroad (France) for a year or two, or are there others paths that would benefit her?

The goal for her is to own small bakery. Thank you for any guidance.
 Quoting: Texas Dave


Your daughter when she has the right age and when she feel like to move for her vocation should go to france for this
In a gault et millau baker or pastry chef according to what she wants
It is the last true manner to learn this job
We choose our flour from farmers
Our butter from people who make their butter themselves using no machine
All these things add up and make the gault millau pastry chefs and bakers
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:fivestars:
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hf
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Move to the US!! I know a woman from France who owns a French Patisserie in New Hampshire and is doing very well. People love that stuff over here. She makes everything from scratch. Her son is a pastry chef.
 Quoting: 88


In usa i can not have the ingredients that I use here
It costs a lot of money to make these ingredients travel to me and it is just in france.
So if I must make them travel every 5 days to america, I would be ruined in 2 month maybe or I would have to sell what I do at price that are not acceptable for me and also for the clients.
I am not interested really in money, i am interested in what i do and the ingredients that I use
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You are a true artisan with integrity, a dying breed.
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Move to the US!! I know a woman from France who owns a French Patisserie in New Hampshire and is doing very well. People love that stuff over here. She makes everything from scratch. Her son is a pastry chef.
 Quoting: 88


In usa i can not have the ingredients that I use here
It costs a lot of money to make these ingredients travel to me and it is just in france.
So if I must make them travel every 5 days to america, I would be ruined in 2 month maybe or I would have to sell what I do at price that are not acceptable for me and also for the clients.
I am not interested really in money, i am interested in what i do and the ingredients that I use
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You are a true artisan with integrity, a dying breed.
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you do like this when you like what you do
When someone who cooks food or is a baker or pastry chef
When he does this for money, it is not the correct road
It is a little like when you are a fireman, you do this because you like to help people in difficult situations, not to have your name in the newspaper peace
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Move to the US!! I know a woman from France who owns a French Patisserie in New Hampshire and is doing very well. People love that stuff over here. She makes everything from scratch. Her son is a pastry chef.
 Quoting: 88


In usa i can not have the ingredients that I use here
It costs a lot of money to make these ingredients travel to me and it is just in france.
So if I must make them travel every 5 days to america, I would be ruined in 2 month maybe or I would have to sell what I do at price that are not acceptable for me and also for the clients.
I am not interested really in money, i am interested in what i do and the ingredients that I use
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You are a true artisan with integrity, a dying breed.
 Quoting: Avenger1


you do like this when you like what you do
When someone who cooks food or is a baker or pastry chef
When he does this for money, it is not the correct road
It is a little like when you are a fireman, you do this because you like to help people in difficult situations, not to have your name in the newspaper peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78434089


Much respect. hf
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Thanks to the good people like you, we can enjoy our morning cafe au lait and croissant.

We don't want food made by a machine.
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I am from Canada and cannot eat processed food.It makes me sick. Keep cooking. Such a blessing to the world.
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Thanks to the good people like you, we can enjoy our morning cafe au lait and croissant.

We don't want food made by a machine.
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I am from Canada and cannot eat processed food.It makes me sick. Keep cooking. Such a blessing to the world.
 Quoting: Truthseeker123-456


I know in canada people love to cook this is great
Always appreciable to eat something that someone did himself or herself
Just because it was done for you.
Of course sometime it is the first time people try to do something so maybe it is not perfect, but this intention is what you want in every human.
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Hello! My 14 year old daughter wants to become a pastry chef one day. What is the best path to get her there? Should she study abroad (France) for a year or two, or are there others paths that would benefit her?

The goal for her is to own small bakery. Thank you for any guidance.
 Quoting: Texas Dave


Your daughter when she has the right age and when she feel like to move for her vocation should go to france for this
In a gault et millau baker or pastry chef according to what she wants
It is the last true manner to learn this job
We choose our flour from farmers
Our butter from people who make their butter themselves using no machine
All these things add up and make the gault millau pastry chefs and bakers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84148280


That is badass.





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