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how come Hitler didn't realize that Russia gets cold? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85439223  United States03/27/2023 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79461243 United States03/27/2023 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numerical superiority was entirely with the Red Army, they had excellent artillery and a strong tank force, yet back they rolled, a rout without compare, unprecedented in the annals of Russian and world history. In the first few months some three million officers and men had fallen into enemy hands! " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79456704 An important factor is that in the first 6 months of Operation Barbarossa 2.7 Red Army POWs were killed. That is 2.7 million healthy soldiers who surrendered who were killed. This caused the Soviets to fight harder and their soldiers quickly understood that surrender probably meant death. And we aren't talking about all the civilians murdered or captured as slave labor, this is just soldiers. This is also one of the primary reasons the Germans feared the Soviets as the war turned against Germany. People knew atrocities had been committed and revenge was coming. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] I know at one point the Germans had 3 million Russian POW. I believe they killed them as there was no way Germany was able to feed 3 million POW. It just didn't have the resources. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79461243 United States03/27/2023 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numerical superiority was entirely with the Red Army, they had excellent artillery and a strong tank force, yet back they rolled, a rout without compare, unprecedented in the annals of Russian and world history. In the first few months some three million officers and men had fallen into enemy hands! " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79456704 An important factor is that in the first 6 months of Operation Barbarossa 2.7 Red Army POWs were killed. That is 2.7 million healthy soldiers who surrendered who were killed. This caused the Soviets to fight harder and their soldiers quickly understood that surrender probably meant death. And we aren't talking about all the civilians murdered or captured as slave labor, this is just soldiers. This is also one of the primary reasons the Germans feared the Soviets as the war turned against Germany. People knew atrocities had been committed and revenge was coming. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] I know at one point the Germans had 3 million Russian POW. I believe they killed them as there was no way Germany was able to feed 3 million POW. It just didn't have the resources. |
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Educated Redneck
 User ID: 81905400 United States03/28/2023 02:21 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numerical superiority was entirely with the Red Army, they had excellent artillery and a strong tank force, yet back they rolled, a rout without compare, unprecedented in the annals of Russian and world history. In the first few months some three million officers and men had fallen into enemy hands! " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79456704 An important factor is that in the first 6 months of Operation Barbarossa 2.7 Red Army POWs were killed. That is 2.7 million healthy soldiers who surrendered who were killed. This caused the Soviets to fight harder and their soldiers quickly understood that surrender probably meant death. And we aren't talking about all the civilians murdered or captured as slave labor, this is just soldiers. This is also one of the primary reasons the Germans feared the Soviets as the war turned against Germany. People knew atrocities had been committed and revenge was coming. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] I know at one point the Germans had 3 million Russian POW. I believe they killed them as there was no way Germany was able to feed 3 million POW. It just didn't have the resources. Correct, their plan was to encircle and capture large chunks of the Red Army which they did. And knowing they couldn't feed all these men they planned to kill them and they did. Over 3 million Red Army POWs were killed during the war, 2.7 million of them in just the first few months of Operation Barbarossa. This is why the Germans were terrified of the advancing Red Army. They knew what Germany had done and they knew payback was coming. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 84964441 United States03/28/2023 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The same reason Napoleon didn't realize Russia gets cold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83081225 When over half of his army froze and starved to death while marching back to France he realized it. They see that prize of Moscow and think they'll just take it. They all think the same thing. And Russia kicks their butts every time. The Motherland doesn't lose. never. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79470989 United States03/30/2023 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numerical superiority was entirely with the Red Army, they had excellent artillery and a strong tank force, yet back they rolled, a rout without compare, unprecedented in the annals of Russian and world history. In the first few months some three million officers and men had fallen into enemy hands! " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79456704 An important factor is that in the first 6 months of Operation Barbarossa 2.7 Red Army POWs were killed. That is 2.7 million healthy soldiers who surrendered who were killed. This caused the Soviets to fight harder and their soldiers quickly understood that surrender probably meant death. And we aren't talking about all the civilians murdered or captured as slave labor, this is just soldiers. This is also one of the primary reasons the Germans feared the Soviets as the war turned against Germany. People knew atrocities had been committed and revenge was coming. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] I know at one point the Germans had 3 million Russian POW. I believe they killed them as there was no way Germany was able to feed 3 million POW. It just didn't have the resources. Correct, their plan was to encircle and capture large chunks of the Red Army which they did. And knowing they couldn't feed all these men they planned to kill them and they did. Over 3 million Red Army POWs were killed during the war, 2.7 million of them in just the first few months of Operation Barbarossa. This is why the Germans were terrified of the advancing Red Army. They knew what Germany had done and they knew payback was coming. Knowing this, what is your opinion about Eisenhower's decision to starve the German PoW to death in the Rhine Meadow Camps? It's not as if the US couldn't feed them. You can't compare the huge US economy to the Third Reich that was battling on all fronts and was barely surviving. |
| Educated Redneck
User ID: 81905400 United States03/31/2023 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Educated Redneck An important factor is that in the first 6 months of Operation Barbarossa 2.7 Red Army POWs were killed. That is 2.7 million healthy soldiers who surrendered who were killed. This caused the Soviets to fight harder and their soldiers quickly understood that surrender probably meant death. And we aren't talking about all the civilians murdered or captured as slave labor, this is just soldiers. This is also one of the primary reasons the Germans feared the Soviets as the war turned against Germany. People knew atrocities had been committed and revenge was coming. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] I know at one point the Germans had 3 million Russian POW. I believe they killed them as there was no way Germany was able to feed 3 million POW. It just didn't have the resources. Correct, their plan was to encircle and capture large chunks of the Red Army which they did. And knowing they couldn't feed all these men they planned to kill them and they did. Over 3 million Red Army POWs were killed during the war, 2.7 million of them in just the first few months of Operation Barbarossa. This is why the Germans were terrified of the advancing Red Army. They knew what Germany had done and they knew payback was coming. Knowing this, what is your opinion about Eisenhower's decision to starve the German PoW to death in the Rhine Meadow Camps? It's not as if the US couldn't feed them. You can't compare the huge US economy to the Third Reich that was battling on all fronts and was barely surviving. Fair point, however years of war had left Europe devastated. Production all over the Continent had crashed as manpower was drown into the war. Huge numbers of transport ships had been sunk during the war. Goods were shipped in, but the supply lines had to shift from armaments to civilian supplies. And once supplied reached devastated Europe the distribution networks were very poor. Moving goods inland was difficult as bridges and train tracks had been destroyed in the war. The civilians came first and there wasn't enough to go around. And really nothing could compare to the 2.7 million Soviet POWs killed in the first 8 months of Operation Barbarossa. Last Edited by Educated Redneck on 03/31/2023 01:25 AM |
