REPORT: Murder rate in states voting for Trump exceeded rate in every state voting for Biden. In 2020, 40% higher in Trump states.

Except the murder rate has gone up since Biden took office so how do you explain that. And I have searched out statistics on gun deaths and you can put an emphasis on “40%” but suicide is MUCH higher than murder, in fact I think it was something around 70-90% of all gun fatalities. You also had a higher chance of being shot by a policeman than being murdered by someone with a gun.
Facts matter, skewing statistics to fit a narrative is pathetic.

Maybe your time would be better spent trying to solve our mental health crisis since that is where the majority of gun deaths are coming from.

65% of homicides in those states are committed by blacks (give or take)

The rest of the murders are committed by Hispanics, Whites, and other.

95% of blacks DID NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP.

90% of Hispanics DID NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP.

Are you really this stupid ??

Cool, now remove Dem cities and rerun the numbers. America doesn't even crack the top 100 countries for gun violence if you take away blue cities.

For extra credit run some numbers on the races of the offender and victim. Have fun!

So Chicago and NYC and D.C. and Boston and San Francisco and Seattle and Portland are 40% lower?

Yeah right

From the same people that say Biden won. Yeah right, and a man with a huge penis can put on a wig and dress and instantly be a woman.

At the CPAC Conference earlier this month, Trump claimed that Bragg “is presiding over one of the most dangerous and violent cities in the United States… where killings are taking place at a number like nobody’s ever seen, right in Manhattan.” Trump told the crowd that Bragg should focus on stemming the alleged increase in violent crime instead of the “now ancient” story of Stormy Daniels “where there is no crime anyway.”

Stoking fears of a “violent crime wave” is a well-worn Republican strategy. But crime data for New York City doesn’t support these claims – if anything, it shows the opposite.

According to crime statistics from the New York Police Department (NYPD), overall index crime – which includes murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary, grand larceny, and auto theft – went down by nearly 6% last month compared to February 2022 last year. Shooting incidents and murders in February 2023 were also down 15% and 28%, respectively, compared to the same period last year.

So far this year, the total number of murders in the city is 66 – a 19% decrease compared to the same time last year. This number is also 83% lower than 30 years ago. Similarly, the number of shooting incidents is down by 21% in 2023 compared to the same time last year. Incidents of felony assault and grand larceny auto are up this year compared to this time in 2022, but counts of rape, robbery, burglary, and grand larceny have gone down.

Incidents of the seven major felony offenses in New York City totaled 126,589 in 2022, up 19% from the previous year. But this is roughly the same level as in 2006, when there were a total of 128,682 such incidents. And last year's level of major felony offenses in New York City was still 46% lower than in 2000.

Subway crime is also falling. Between last October and January of this year, crimes on the subway dropped 16% compared with the same period a year before, New York City Mayor Eric Adams announced earlier this year.

New York City remains the safest of America's six largest cities. It is also safer than most smaller metro areas as well. Manhattan, the borough that Bragg represents, is one of the safest places to live in the entire United States.

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Funny math.

Leftists love funny math

What about how the rate in many cases doubled or tripled in blue areas like Chicago, St Louis, and NYC?

It's stats, the whole point is ALL the facts are 'alternative' because they can support any conclusion if made to. Like climate change data.

% of young black males is higher in red states. Simple as.

Mission accomplished. Establish shit hole cities in red states, allow them to be democratically controlled, destabilize the entire state logistics, sit back and cherry pick stats to support more lies, rinse & repeat.

What I mean by the use of statistics in percentages is that it gives the appearance of a huge increase but it could be something like 6 people killed in 2020 and 10 people killed in 2022 so yes 40% increase but does it matter? Not really. Certainly not enough for me to ever give up my guns for protection. I’m not worried about burglars, I’m worried about my government and that is why we have 2A in the first place.

There have been books written with titles such as "How to Lie with Statistics".

It is very easy to manipulate how data is interpreted.

The article was written by and for the intellectually dishonest.

The absurdity of the article is unworthy of rebuttal.

As a simple example, why didn't they choose to use the black population of each state as a reference???

Blacks are committing higher levels of murder than non-blacks, so why didn't they choose to use that as a measure?

If they had done so then they would have to admit that the murder rate is directly correlated with the level of the black population.

Also, the level of poverty is directly correlated with crime and murder. So, what the author(s) are saying is that impoverished areas that want change should just accept their impoverishment. Trump supported economic enrichment in these impoverished areas and that is why he got their support.

So, if blacks in an inner city are in anguish over their impoverishment and crime, then the article is saying that they should just accept it and not want to change things. The same goes for whites now living in economically distressed areas.

MOST of the people against Trump are wealthier or privileged. Teachers and other government employees are an example, as they have tremendous benefits and retirement plans at the expense of people who in return have none. Some of these people are on this board mocking those who pay for the very benefits they receive.

You creeps are just plain evil.

Haha, it only took the second person responding to blow your narrative out of the water & prove that the truth is actually the complete opposite. Thanks for playing.

Facts like those trump states are blue states? I live in Missouri. We host one of if not the most dangerous cities in the US, which set a homicide record in 2021...it's literally so blue it went 90%+ for Biden.
Same for KC.
If the lefty blues in my red state stopped the drive bys, the rate would drop to near-zero. I live in an area of over 100k people and in my 39 years there's been like 3 murders.
When I lived in the good part of STL, a murder a WEEK was SLOW.

The study did that too.

Over the course of the full 21 years between 2000 and 2020, the Red State murder rate was still 12% higher than the Blue State murder rate, even when murders in the largest cities in those red states were removed. And the murder rate was still higher in 18 of 21 years.

Between 2010 and 2020, even after removing New Orleans and Jackson, Louisiana and Mississippi continued to hold the number one and two spots for highest murder rates. Alabama, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, and Tennessee were still consistently in the top 10 after removing their largest city.

In 2020, the states with the highest murder rates stayed roughly the same after making this change: Mississippi in first, then Louisiana, Alabama, South Carolina, Missouri, Illinois, Maryland, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Georgia.

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This is their new ploy. I saw this a week or so ago on here, and they fail to reveal that they are basically all democrat run cities. But because the outlying counties voted red, they are “trump states”.

Exactly . They are completely evil. Liars, cheats, totally rotten to the core.

Loser, you FAIL.

The despair of poverty is directly correlated with murder.

Impoverished areas will have higher murder rates.

People who are well off tend to be less likely murder.

Counties

I will only say living in a Democrat State or City is way scary!

So the burden and responsibility of the murders is shifted to the government and elected officials , and NOT THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY COMMITTING THE MURDERS ??

Wow, you are sick.

Don't blame the criminal , blame the government

So your conclusion is that red states are all impoverished shitholes and therefore have higher murder rates.

Interesting conclusion.

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THE TOP 8 STATES HAVE THE HIGHEST BLACK POPULATIONS

HOLY SHIT , YOU ARE STUPID

IT ISN'T TRUMP VOTERS/SUPPORTERS COMMITTING MURDERS - IT'S BLACK PEOPLE

All the people Killed said they would Vote for trump!

Go Hillary Clinton Kill Kill Kill!

Yes, impoverished shitholes due to a high population of blacks. Mostly poor Southern States.

I've seen this stupid sh1t posted all over social media 1000 times for years. And each time, it is debunked when broken down into the highest populated cities in those states, which more often than not, are democrat controlled cites within the red state.

Fun facts

Percentage of black population in California: 6%

Percentage of black population in Tennessee: 16%



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