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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474025 Australia 03/20/2023 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its high time we put this satanic pre trib bullshit to an end! The easiest way to study prophecy is to isolate similar " words or phrases " from the bible and focus on them. Here is a good example: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85470469 Rev 20:5 and 20:6 both use the the phrase "first resurrection" No where else in the entire bible is "first resurrection" quoted..... Easy enough :} By the way when something is repeated in the bible its very important and very rare. This particular phrase has it in back to back verses. Amazing! I wonder if there are anymore in the bible. It might be the only one.... So here we see a very important phrase, so what do we do with it. Good question? Yes I'm getting there:} The people in the first resurrection are those who have overcome the mark of the beast and had not worshipped the beast so, they were there when the beast was given control! Do you see it yet? Rev 20 read it... These christians are so blessed and holy they get to be priests of God and Christ and will reign with him in the millenium. No matter what happpens. The bible cleary states that very few people will be left. Just look it up! Oh, and how about this.... these blessed and holy christians coming out of the trib are certainly not portrayed like this in the Left Behind series. So here I am willing to overcome the mark and give my life for Christ and be part of his resurrection. Im about to link this with the most popular rapture passage in the bible. Yes you know it......1 Thes 4:16 and wrap up this debate once and for all! 1 Thes 4:15 according to THE LORD'S OWN WORDS (this phrase is only found once in the bible)we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not preceed those who have fallen aseep...in other words..the RAPTURE takes place RIGHT AFTER the FIRST RESSURECTION..its there in black white and RED! Do you see it? The rapture occurs immediately after the resurrection. Resurrection then Rapture!!!! Remember .... Resurrection then Rapture This is the most important issue in the bible concerning the timing of the rapture (pre, mid ,post) an unraveling it! Its so important that it's repeated in 1 Thes 4:16! " and the dead in Christ rise first " Are not the saints from Rev 20 "the dead in Christ" Well... are they. Certainly they are. they are Gods blessed people. They go first.... First resurrection> I Thes 4:17 "After that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up, with them to meet the Lord in the air" Is not this the rapture??. Do you see it? Resurrection then rapture. Oh, please try not to tell me that there is an earlier resurrection or a "before the first resurrection" Other wise its not the "FIRST RESSURECTION" at all..but a second..or a third. When the Lord said "this is the first resurrection " and repeated himself moments later "Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection" He knew exactly what he meant. There is a second resurrection after the 1000 yrs So there you have it rapture doesnt occur until Jesus returns AFTER the trib..... get ready... were in for the ride of a lifetime... This is not just thoery... Its the Word of God Dont let anyone deceive you, Jesus has a lot to say about false teachers in the end. Look it up. Use a concordance its easy. Bless all who recieve this message with open hearts, for I believed in the pre trib rapture for 20 years until the Lord showed me otherwise. You see you can't sell a pre or mid trib rapture, but you can sell a pre trib one. Just look on your shelf you might have one....... As a matter of fact 240 million copies were sold You know... The Left Behind Series... the largest selling book series in history. A million dollar lie! Satan is laughing all the way to the BANK! This poster makes an excellent argument here. I agree with this person ^ This |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474025 Australia 03/20/2023 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satanic pre trib Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65760832 Rapture doctrine exposed Thread: The rapture is a christian excuse for NOT facing ones fears and duty to God. Thread: HERE IS PROOF THAT THE RAPTURE TEACHING AS TAUGHT BY OUR CHURCHES IS A LIE! Thread: 7 year tribulation and rapture are NOT biblical. Thread: If you believe in the rapture you are not a Christian or a follower of Christ - you are a Darbyist Thread: the sleeper church doctrine of RAPTURE proved wrong by the simple word AIR! Thread: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Thread: WARNING: There Is NO Rapture - Final Proof Thread: The Rapture is not in the bible. You WANT to be Left Behind Thread: The "Rapture" is the GREAT DECEPTION spoken of in II Thessalonians. Thread: Some people on here tend to believe the scofield/Darby changes to the bible. These are false, no rapture! Thread: The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE! Thread: The reason the two jesuits invented the rapture Belief doctrine Thread: PLEASE WAKE UP! The Rapture teaching is misleading many Christians. Thread: JOHN NELSON DARBY INVENTED THE RAPTURE!!! Thread: The error being taught to 90% of all Christians on the Rapture of the Church any Moment! Thread: THERE IS NO RAPTURE-RAPTURE THEORY IS FROM A WOMAN - NOT SCRIPTURE! Thread: The "RAPTURE" Doctrine is a LIE! Thread: new Protestant message, the imputation heresy, the Rapture lie and Christians must be of one belief Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it. Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology Thread: Pre-Trib Rapture? How Does the Last Trump Happen BEFORE that? - KJV Bible Sutdy Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study This And ... Its high time we put this satanic pre trib bullshit to an end! The easiest way to study prophecy is to isolate similar " words or phrases " from the bible and focus on them. Here is a good example: Rev 20:5 and 20:6 both use the the phrase "first resurrection" No where else in the entire bible is "first resurrection" quoted..... Easy enough :} By the way when something is repeated in the bible its very important and very rare. This particular phrase has it in back to back verses. Amazing! I wonder if there are anymore in the bible. It might be the only one.... So here we see a very important phrase, so what do we do with it. Good question? Yes I'm getting there:} The people in the first resurrection are those who have overcome the mark of the beast and had not worshipped the beast so, they were there when the beast was given control! Do you see it yet? Rev 20 read it... These christians are so blessed and holy they get to be priests of God and Christ and will reign with him in the millenium. No matter what happpens. The bible cleary states that very few people will be left. Just look it up! Oh, and how about this.... these blessed and holy christians coming out of the trib are certainly not portrayed like this in the Left Behind series. So here I am willing to overcome the mark and give my life for Christ and be part of his resurrection. Im about to link this with the most popular rapture passage in the bible. Yes you know it......1 Thes 4:16 and wrap up this debate once and for all! 1 Thes 4:15 according to THE LORD'S OWN WORDS (this phrase is only found once in the bible)we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not preceed those who have fallen aseep...in other words..the RAPTURE takes place RIGHT AFTER the FIRST RESSURECTION..its there in black white and RED! Do you see it? The rapture occurs immediately after the resurrection. Resurrection then Rapture!!!! Remember .... Resurrection then Rapture This is the most important issue in the bible concerning the timing of the rapture (pre, mid ,post) an unraveling it! Its so important that it's repeated in 1 Thes 4:16! " and the dead in Christ rise first " Are not the saints from Rev 20 "the dead in Christ" Well... are they. Certainly they are. they are Gods blessed people. They go first.... First resurrection> I Thes 4:17 "After that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up, with them to meet the Lord in the air" Is not this the rapture??. Do you see it? Resurrection then rapture. Oh, please try not to tell me that there is an earlier resurrection or a "before the first resurrection" Other wise its not the "FIRST RESSURECTION" at all..but a second..or a third. When the Lord said "this is the first resurrection " and repeated himself moments later "Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection" He knew exactly what he meant. There is a second resurrection after the 1000 yrs So there you have it rapture doesnt occur until Jesus returns AFTER the trib..... get ready... were in for the ride of a lifetime... This is not just thoery... Its the Word of God Dont let anyone deceive you, Jesus has a lot to say about false teachers in the end. Look it up. Use a concordance its easy. Bless all who recieve this message with open hearts, for I believed in the pre trib rapture for 20 years until the Lord showed me otherwise. You see you can't sell a pre or mid trib rapture, but you can sell a pre trib one. Just look on your shelf you might have one....... As a matter of fact 240 million copies were sold You know... The Left Behind Series... the largest selling book series in history. A million dollar lie! Satan is laughing all the way to the BANK! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474025 Australia 03/20/2023 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 KJV Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83050021 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Who are "....them which are asleep"? Who are "we which are alive..."? If the above is the 2nd coming of the Lord, does this not include all living humans on earth at the end of the TRIB? IF SO .... .... then who are the people with NATURAL BODIES that populate the earth and procreate and live and die during the millineal reign of Christ? ..... And are tested when the enemy is released again after 1000 years? CONCLUSION: There is a pretrib AND post trib rapture. Yes TWO! Paul (above) taught pretrib. Jesus ONLY taught the POST trib rapture. (pretrib was not possible until after His death). Why yall Pre-trib haters so mad??! you are an AI data mining bot for starters, and no one is hating on the pretribbers, except maybe for me. I don't hate them, but I am angry that their stupidity will hurt a lot of people. I get angry at lies, and pretrib rapture is a lie. This Op is a.bot |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84246408 Germany 03/20/2023 02:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am still waiting for someone to explain how 1 Thes 4:15-17 applies to the second coming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85472313 In the last 24 hour and numerous post, nobody has done it yet. 1 Thes 4:15-17 nobody is left to repopulate the earth. So how can it be about the second coming. Somebody Answer. Correct, the rapture cannot be post-trib for that very reason. Those asleep in (1 Thes.4) refer to the dead in Christ before the restrainer is lifted. The rapture will happen when the restrainer is removed as Daughter Babylon is judged (burned) and the man of sin is revealed. Only surviving BELIEVERS will enter and populate the millennium. Once Israel as a nation repents and the Lord returns from the wedding, it will be too late to get saved. No unbelievers will enter the millennium, they will not escape the winepress. Millenial rebels can only be descendants of believers. The attackers are killed at the 2nd Coming: Zechariah 14:12. And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. The Tares are gathered first into the winepress. Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Matthew 13:40-41 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; Then the Wheat is gathered afterwards from the 4 winds. Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. As Christ Returns: Revelation 14:14-16 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. After Christ Returns: Revelation 14:17–20 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. If one tries to apply the Sheep-Goats judgement before the millennium: Sheep-Goats judgement passing the sentence: Joel 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. The Winepress executing the sentence: Joel 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83074727 United States 03/20/2023 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am still waiting for someone to explain how 1 Thes 4:15-17 applies to the second coming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85472313 In the last 24 hour and numerous post, nobody has done it yet. 1 Thes 4:15-17 nobody is left to repopulate the earth. So how can it be about the second coming. Somebody Answer. Correct, the rapture cannot be post-trib for that very reason. Those asleep in (1 Thes.4) refer to the dead in Christ before the restrainer is lifted. The rapture will happen when the restrainer is removed as Daughter Babylon is judged (burned) and the man of sin is revealed. Only surviving BELIEVERS will enter and populate the millennium. Once Israel as a nation repents and the Lord returns from the wedding, it will be too late to get saved. No unbelievers will enter the millennium, they will not escape the winepress. Millenial rebels can only be descendants of believers. The attackers are killed at the 2nd Coming: Zechariah 14:12. And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. The Tares are gathered first into the winepress. Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Matthew 13:40-41 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; Then the Wheat is gathered afterwards from the 4 winds. Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. As Christ Returns: Revelation 14:14-16 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. After Christ Returns: Revelation 14:17–20 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. If one tries to apply the Sheep-Goats judgement before the millennium: Sheep-Goats judgement passing the sentence: Joel 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. The Winepress executing the sentence: Joel 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. Thank you. How about that lost psycho australian guy??! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85471233 United States 03/20/2023 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satanic pre trib Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65760832 Rapture doctrine exposed Thread: The rapture is a christian excuse for NOT facing ones fears and duty to God. Thread: HERE IS PROOF THAT THE RAPTURE TEACHING AS TAUGHT BY OUR CHURCHES IS A LIE! Thread: 7 year tribulation and rapture are NOT biblical. Thread: If you believe in the rapture you are not a Christian or a follower of Christ - you are a Darbyist Thread: the sleeper church doctrine of RAPTURE proved wrong by the simple word AIR! Thread: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Thread: WARNING: There Is NO Rapture - Final Proof Thread: The Rapture is not in the bible. You WANT to be Left Behind Thread: The "Rapture" is the GREAT DECEPTION spoken of in II Thessalonians. Thread: Some people on here tend to believe the scofield/Darby changes to the bible. These are false, no rapture! Thread: The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE! Thread: The reason the two jesuits invented the rapture Belief doctrine Thread: PLEASE WAKE UP! The Rapture teaching is misleading many Christians. Thread: JOHN NELSON DARBY INVENTED THE RAPTURE!!! Thread: The error being taught to 90% of all Christians on the Rapture of the Church any Moment! Thread: THERE IS NO RAPTURE-RAPTURE THEORY IS FROM A WOMAN - NOT SCRIPTURE! Thread: The "RAPTURE" Doctrine is a LIE! Thread: new Protestant message, the imputation heresy, the Rapture lie and Christians must be of one belief Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it. Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology Thread: Pre-Trib Rapture? How Does the Last Trump Happen BEFORE that? - KJV Bible Sutdy Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study This And ... Its high time we put this satanic pre trib bullshit to an end! The easiest way to study prophecy is to isolate similar " words or phrases " from the bible and focus on them. Here is a good example: Rev 20:5 and 20:6 both use the the phrase "first resurrection" No where else in the entire bible is "first resurrection" quoted..... Easy enough :} By the way when something is repeated in the bible its very important and very rare. This particular phrase has it in back to back verses. Amazing! I wonder if there are anymore in the bible. It might be the only one.... So here we see a very important phrase, so what do we do with it. Good question? Yes I'm getting there:} The people in the first resurrection are those who have overcome the mark of the beast and had not worshipped the beast so, they were there when the beast was given control! Do you see it yet? Rev 20 read it... These christians are so blessed and holy they get to be priests of God and Christ and will reign with him in the millenium. No matter what happpens. The bible cleary states that very few people will be left. Just look it up! Oh, and how about this.... these blessed and holy christians coming out of the trib are certainly not portrayed like this in the Left Behind series. So here I am willing to overcome the mark and give my life for Christ and be part of his resurrection. Im about to link this with the most popular rapture passage in the bible. Yes you know it......1 Thes 4:16 and wrap up this debate once and for all! 1 Thes 4:15 according to THE LORD'S OWN WORDS (this phrase is only found once in the bible)we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not preceed those who have fallen aseep...in other words..the RAPTURE takes place RIGHT AFTER the FIRST RESSURECTION..its there in black white and RED! Do you see it? The rapture occurs immediately after the resurrection. Resurrection then Rapture!!!! Remember .... Resurrection then Rapture This is the most important issue in the bible concerning the timing of the rapture (pre, mid ,post) an unraveling it! Its so important that it's repeated in 1 Thes 4:16! " and the dead in Christ rise first " Are not the saints from Rev 20 "the dead in Christ" Well... are they. Certainly they are. they are Gods blessed people. They go first.... First resurrection> I Thes 4:17 "After that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up, with them to meet the Lord in the air" Is not this the rapture??. Do you see it? Resurrection then rapture. Oh, please try not to tell me that there is an earlier resurrection or a "before the first resurrection" Other wise its not the "FIRST RESSURECTION" at all..but a second..or a third. When the Lord said "this is the first resurrection " and repeated himself moments later "Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection" He knew exactly what he meant. There is a second resurrection after the 1000 yrs So there you have it rapture doesnt occur until Jesus returns AFTER the trib..... get ready... were in for the ride of a lifetime... This is not just thoery... Its the Word of God Dont let anyone deceive you, Jesus has a lot to say about false teachers in the end. Look it up. Use a concordance its easy. Bless all who recieve this message with open hearts, for I believed in the pre trib rapture for 20 years until the Lord showed me otherwise. You see you can't sell a pre or mid trib rapture, but you can sell a pre trib one. Just look on your shelf you might have one....... As a matter of fact 240 million copies were sold You know... The Left Behind Series... the largest selling book series in history. A million dollar lie! Satan is laughing all the way to the BANK! And you're as bad as the pre trib karens posting your wall of text over and over 20 fucking times on the same thread is proof of your own struggle. 1 simple scripture would suffice, there are plenty scriptures that do not allow for a rapture, its his second coming as well as the last one , on the last day! Just like the only name in which man can be saved by, and its Jesus! Not jehovah, or yaweh, none come unto the Father except through the nme of His Son Jesus! John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again [at the last day]. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474025 Australia 03/20/2023 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satanic pre trib Rapture doctrine exposed Thread: The rapture is a christian excuse for NOT facing ones fears and duty to God. Thread: HERE IS PROOF THAT THE RAPTURE TEACHING AS TAUGHT BY OUR CHURCHES IS A LIE! Thread: 7 year tribulation and rapture are NOT biblical. Thread: If you believe in the rapture you are not a Christian or a follower of Christ - you are a Darbyist Thread: the sleeper church doctrine of RAPTURE proved wrong by the simple word AIR! Thread: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Thread: WARNING: There Is NO Rapture - Final Proof Thread: The Rapture is not in the bible. You WANT to be Left Behind Thread: The "Rapture" is the GREAT DECEPTION spoken of in II Thessalonians. Thread: Some people on here tend to believe the scofield/Darby changes to the bible. These are false, no rapture! Thread: The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE! Thread: The reason the two jesuits invented the rapture Belief doctrine Thread: PLEASE WAKE UP! The Rapture teaching is misleading many Christians. Thread: JOHN NELSON DARBY INVENTED THE RAPTURE!!! Thread: The error being taught to 90% of all Christians on the Rapture of the Church any Moment! Thread: THERE IS NO RAPTURE-RAPTURE THEORY IS FROM A WOMAN - NOT SCRIPTURE! Thread: The "RAPTURE" Doctrine is a LIE! Thread: new Protestant message, the imputation heresy, the Rapture lie and Christians must be of one belief Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it. Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology Thread: Pre-Trib Rapture? How Does the Last Trump Happen BEFORE that? - KJV Bible Sutdy Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study Its high time we put this satanic pre trib bullshit to an end! The easiest way to study prophecy is to isolate similar " words or phrases " from the bible and focus on them. Here is a good example: Rev 20:5 and 20:6 both use the the phrase "first resurrection" No where else in the entire bible is "first resurrection" quoted..... Easy enough :} By the way when something is repeated in the bible its very important and very rare. This particular phrase has it in back to back verses. Amazing! I wonder if there are anymore in the bible. It might be the only one.... So here we see a very important phrase, so what do we do with it. Good question? Yes I'm getting there:} The people in the first resurrection are those who have overcome the mark of the beast and had not worshipped the beast so, they were there when the beast was given control! Do you see it yet? Rev 20 read it... These christians are so blessed and holy they get to be priests of God and Christ and will reign with him in the millenium. No matter what happpens. The bible cleary states that very few people will be left. Just look it up! Oh, and how about this.... these blessed and holy christians coming out of the trib are certainly not portrayed like this in the Left Behind series. So here I am willing to overcome the mark and give my life for Christ and be part of his resurrection. Im about to link this with the most popular rapture passage in the bible. Yes you know it......1 Thes 4:16 and wrap up this debate once and for all! 1 Thes 4:15 according to THE LORD'S OWN WORDS (this phrase is only found once in the bible)we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not preceed those who have fallen aseep...in other words..the RAPTURE takes place RIGHT AFTER the FIRST RESSURECTION..its there in black white and RED! Do you see it? The rapture occurs immediately after the resurrection. Resurrection then Rapture!!!! Remember .... Resurrection then Rapture This is the most important issue in the bible concerning the timing of the rapture (pre, mid ,post) an unraveling it! Its so important that it's repeated in 1 Thes 4:16! " and the dead in Christ rise first " Are not the saints from Rev 20 "the dead in Christ" Well... are they. Certainly they are. they are Gods blessed people. They go first.... First resurrection> I Thes 4:17 "After that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up, with them to meet the Lord in the air" Is not this the rapture??. Do you see it? Resurrection then rapture. Oh, please try not to tell me that there is an earlier resurrection or a "before the first resurrection" Other wise its not the "FIRST RESSURECTION" at all..but a second..or a third. When the Lord said "this is the first resurrection " and repeated himself moments later "Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection" He knew exactly what he meant. There is a second resurrection after the 1000 yrs So there you have it rapture doesnt occur until Jesus returns AFTER the trib..... get ready... were in for the ride of a lifetime... This is not just thoery... Its the Word of God Dont let anyone deceive you, Jesus has a lot to say about false teachers in the end. Look it up. Use a concordance its easy. Bless all who recieve this message with open hearts, for I believed in the pre trib rapture for 20 years until the Lord showed me otherwise. You see you can't sell a pre or mid trib rapture, but you can sell a pre trib one. Just look on your shelf you might have one....... As a matter of fact 240 million copies were sold You know... The Left Behind Series... the largest selling book series in history. A million dollar lie! Satan is laughing all the way to the BANK! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474176 United States 03/20/2023 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satanic pre trib Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65760832 Rapture doctrine exposed Thread: The rapture is a christian excuse for NOT facing ones fears and duty to God. Thread: HERE IS PROOF THAT THE RAPTURE TEACHING AS TAUGHT BY OUR CHURCHES IS A LIE! Thread: 7 year tribulation and rapture are NOT biblical. Thread: If you believe in the rapture you are not a Christian or a follower of Christ - you are a Darbyist Thread: the sleeper church doctrine of RAPTURE proved wrong by the simple word AIR! Thread: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Thread: WARNING: There Is NO Rapture - Final Proof Thread: The Rapture is not in the bible. You WANT to be Left Behind Thread: The "Rapture" is the GREAT DECEPTION spoken of in II Thessalonians. Thread: Some people on here tend to believe the scofield/Darby changes to the bible. These are false, no rapture! Thread: The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE! Thread: The reason the two jesuits invented the rapture Belief doctrine Thread: PLEASE WAKE UP! The Rapture teaching is misleading many Christians. Thread: JOHN NELSON DARBY INVENTED THE RAPTURE!!! Thread: The error being taught to 90% of all Christians on the Rapture of the Church any Moment! Thread: THERE IS NO RAPTURE-RAPTURE THEORY IS FROM A WOMAN - NOT SCRIPTURE! Thread: The "RAPTURE" Doctrine is a LIE! Thread: new Protestant message, the imputation heresy, the Rapture lie and Christians must be of one belief Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it. Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology Thread: Pre-Trib Rapture? How Does the Last Trump Happen BEFORE that? - KJV Bible Sutdy Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study This And ... Its high time we put this satanic pre trib bullshit to an end! The easiest way to study prophecy is to isolate similar " words or phrases " from the bible and focus on them. Here is a good example: Rev 20:5 and 20:6 both use the the phrase "first resurrection" No where else in the entire bible is "first resurrection" quoted..... Easy enough :} By the way when something is repeated in the bible its very important and very rare. This particular phrase has it in back to back verses. Amazing! I wonder if there are anymore in the bible. It might be the only one.... So here we see a very important phrase, so what do we do with it. Good question? Yes I'm getting there:} The people in the first resurrection are those who have overcome the mark of the beast and had not worshipped the beast so, they were there when the beast was given control! Do you see it yet? Rev 20 read it... These christians are so blessed and holy they get to be priests of God and Christ and will reign with him in the millenium. No matter what happpens. The bible cleary states that very few people will be left. Just look it up! Oh, and how about this.... these blessed and holy christians coming out of the trib are certainly not portrayed like this in the Left Behind series. So here I am willing to overcome the mark and give my life for Christ and be part of his resurrection. Im about to link this with the most popular rapture passage in the bible. Yes you know it......1 Thes 4:16 and wrap up this debate once and for all! 1 Thes 4:15 according to THE LORD'S OWN WORDS (this phrase is only found once in the bible)we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not preceed those who have fallen aseep...in other words..the RAPTURE takes place RIGHT AFTER the FIRST RESSURECTION..its there in black white and RED! Do you see it? The rapture occurs immediately after the resurrection. Resurrection then Rapture!!!! Remember .... Resurrection then Rapture This is the most important issue in the bible concerning the timing of the rapture (pre, mid ,post) an unraveling it! Its so important that it's repeated in 1 Thes 4:16! " and the dead in Christ rise first " Are not the saints from Rev 20 "the dead in Christ" Well... are they. Certainly they are. they are Gods blessed people. They go first.... First resurrection> I Thes 4:17 "After that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up, with them to meet the Lord in the air" Is not this the rapture??. Do you see it? Resurrection then rapture. Oh, please try not to tell me that there is an earlier resurrection or a "before the first resurrection" Other wise its not the "FIRST RESSURECTION" at all..but a second..or a third. When the Lord said "this is the first resurrection " and repeated himself moments later "Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection" He knew exactly what he meant. There is a second resurrection after the 1000 yrs So there you have it rapture doesnt occur until Jesus returns AFTER the trib..... get ready... were in for the ride of a lifetime... This is not just thoery... Its the Word of God Dont let anyone deceive you, Jesus has a lot to say about false teachers in the end. Look it up. Use a concordance its easy. Bless all who recieve this message with open hearts, for I believed in the pre trib rapture for 20 years until the Lord showed me otherwise. You see you can't sell a pre or mid trib rapture, but you can sell a pre trib one. Just look on your shelf you might have one....... As a matter of fact 240 million copies were sold You know... The Left Behind Series... the largest selling book series in history. A million dollar lie! Satan is laughing all the way to the BANK! And you're as bad as the pre trib karens posting your wall of text over and over 20 fucking times on the same thread is proof of your own struggle. 1 simple scripture would suffice, there are plenty scriptures that do not allow for a rapture, its his second coming as well as the last one , on the last day! Just like the only name in which man can be saved by, and its Jesus! Not jehovah, or yaweh, none come unto the Father except through the nme of His Son Jesus! John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again [at the last day]. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474025 Australia 03/20/2023 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Behold the pure demonic HATE of pre tribbers. Thread: MAY 21st is REAL!!..JUDMENT COMES AND RAPTURE WILL HAPPEN!!..DONT DARE MOCK OR YOU WILL PAY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474025 Australia 03/20/2023 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Demonic hate Everyone MUST listen to ICE and HAROLD..Gods CHOSEN VESSELS....cause if you DONT and keep mocking God and doubting Ice and Camping... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348134 You will fall away from the truth and be left behind and then cast into HELL and you will be writhing and screaming in the special HELL God created for all those who fall away and MOCK. Just imagine how you will feel after three million years roasting and screaming in flames filled with agony and regret because you fell away from the truth. God will have ZERO mercy on the evil ones who forsake the church and Gods special prophet who has NEVER been wrong..Harold Camping. God in his GREAT WRATH will have them burnt alive in the most satanic horror show ever to be devised by anyone. The torture will be far far worse than any human dictator ever came up with. You will see your skin peeling off in hell every second of every day..screaming forever and ever in agony..never able to die. So dont forsake the church or mock Ice and Harold..Gods chosen vessels..his beloved messengers...or you WILL BURN in hell in unremitting TORTURE forever and ever..and be left behind to suffer the cruellest fate God in His compassion could come up with..that fate of HELL. Be at peace..KNOW the Love and Mercy of God....TRUST in what Ice and Harold say or BURN IN HELL FOREVER!! He calls to you NOT to forsake him and force Him into having you tortured horrifically forever and ever....he does not WANT to torture you but he WILL if you keep MOCKING and DOUBTING! Return to His embrace of LOVE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474176 United States 03/20/2023 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Behold the pure demonic HATE of pre tribbers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85474025 Thread: MAY 21st is REAL!!..JUDMENT COMES AND RAPTURE WILL HAPPEN!!..DONT DARE MOCK OR YOU WILL PAY! Behold another hater of the word of Jesus! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83046858 United States 03/20/2023 04:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 KJV Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83050021 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Who are "....them which are asleep"? Who are "we which are alive..."? If the above is the 2nd coming of the Lord, does this not include all living humans on earth at the end of the TRIB? IF SO .... .... then who are the people with NATURAL BODIES that populate the earth and procreate and live and die during the millineal reign of Christ? ..... And are tested when the enemy is released again after 1000 years? Why yall Pre-trib haters so mad??! 1 Thes 4:15-17 reveals 100% of the believers are raptured or resurrected during this event. If this is the second coming, who populates earth and who does Jesus rule during the 1000 year reign? So how can this scripture be about thr 2nd coming? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474025 Australia 03/20/2023 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 KJV Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83050021 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Who are "....them which are asleep"? Who are "we which are alive..."? If the above is the 2nd coming of the Lord, does this not include all living humans on earth at the end of the TRIB? IF SO .... .... then who are the people with NATURAL BODIES that populate the earth and procreate and live and die during the millineal reign of Christ? ..... And are tested when the enemy is released again after 1000 years? Why yall Pre-trib haters so mad??! 1 Thes 4:15-17 reveals 100% of the believers are raptured or resurrected during this event. If this is the second coming, who populates earth and who does Jesus rule during the 1000 year reign? So how can this scripture be about thr 2nd coming? Its been answered seven times now you retarded bot. Thats what PROVES this thrrad is a bot run data mining thread. No human could be THIS fucking retarded. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474025 Australia 03/20/2023 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And lets not forget.. Its always the hesuit masonic criwd thats into diddling kids. And pre tribbers are sponsired and run by them. And this us why... Them rapture tards love diddling their little ones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85068578 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Thread: Pedophile Pastor Rapes Young Teens Girls At Church |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77237285 United States 03/20/2023 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump for those that have studied to show themselves approved and have learned to rightly divide Gods Word. Absolutely correct...without right division, it's impossible to understand the perfectness of GODS word. Christ clearly tells us his earthly ministry was to the j****s. Jesus's ministry to Paul was AFTER resurrection and AFTER the j*****s rejected the great commission. Paul was given the message of the dispensation of GRACE, and ONLY Paul addresses "the body of Christ" ie "Christians", and the rapture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79954307 United States 03/20/2023 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From my thread - yes, there is a rapture - a quick summary of what has been said... Yes, there is a rapture: 1 Thess 4 17 After that, we who are still alive (believers) and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Matthew 24 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. ------- Rev 19 - Jesus returns with him army (people who were resurrected and raptured). He and his army in what is known as the armaggheddon - will throw satan in the pit for 1000 yrs and antichrist in the lake of fire. Then he will stand on the mount olives - and begin his 1000 reign with those few still alive on earth, and the "people/J" who were protected in the wilderness Rev 12... |
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User ID: 84039964 United States 03/20/2023 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 KJV Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83050021 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Who are "....them which are asleep"? Who are "we which are alive..."? If the above is the 2nd coming of the Lord, does this not include all living humans on earth at the end of the TRIB? IF SO .... .... then who are the people with NATURAL BODIES that populate the earth and procreate and live and die during the millineal reign of Christ? ..... And are tested when the enemy is released again after 1000 years? CONCLUSION: There is a pretrib AND post trib rapture. Yes TWO! Paul (above) taught pretrib. Jesus ONLY taught the POST trib rapture. (pretrib was not possible until after His death). Why yall Pre-trib haters so mad??! Not all non-believers die. Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, [that] every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85474754 United States 03/20/2023 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 KJV Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83050021 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Who are "....them which are asleep"? Who are "we which are alive..."? If the above is the 2nd coming of the Lord, does this not include all living humans on earth at the end of the TRIB? IF SO .... .... then who are the people with NATURAL BODIES that populate the earth and procreate and live and die during the millineal reign of Christ? ..... And are tested when the enemy is released again after 1000 years? CONCLUSION: There is a pretrib AND post trib rapture. Yes TWO! Paul (above) taught pretrib. Jesus ONLY taught the POST trib rapture. (pretrib was not possible until after His death). Why yall Pre-trib haters so mad??! most of you are not alive.. you are walking dead. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79954307 United States 03/20/2023 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 KJV Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83050021 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Who are "....them which are asleep"? Who are "we which are alive..."? If the above is the 2nd coming of the Lord, does this not include all living humans on earth at the end of the TRIB? IF SO .... .... then who are the people with NATURAL BODIES that populate the earth and procreate and live and die during the millineal reign of Christ? ..... And are tested when the enemy is released again after 1000 years? CONCLUSION: There is a pretrib AND post trib rapture. Yes TWO! Paul (above) taught pretrib. Jesus ONLY taught the POST trib rapture. (pretrib was not possible until after His death). Why yall Pre-trib haters so mad??! Not all non-believers die. Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, [that] every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. It's difficult to believe there will be non-believers - but by the end of the 1000 yr reign - satan is able to gather a huge army to come up against the "new city" and saints. Just goes to show - people completely forget the past. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83031342 United States 03/20/2023 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not everbody dies? exactly my point. that shows 1 Thes 4;15-17 CANNOT APPLY to the second coming! not everbody dies? exactly my point. that shows 1 Thes 4;15-17 CANNOT APPLY to the second coming! not everbody dies? exactly my point. that shows 1 Thes 4;15-17 CANNOT APPLY to the second coming! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83251010 United States 03/20/2023 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not everbody dies? exactly my point. that shows 1 Thes 4;15-17 CANNOT APPLY to the second coming! not everbody dies? exactly my point. that shows 1 Thes 4;15-17 CANNOT APPLY to the second coming! not everbody dies? exactly my point. that shows 1 Thes 4;15-17 CANNOT APPLY to the second coming! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85476243 Australia 03/20/2023 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Them rapture tards love their little ones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85068578 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Thread: Pedophile Pastor Rapes Young Teens Girls At Church |
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