witness bullshit...

No, I don't believe I've seen you dear.

Honestly guys, if you want to say something do please grow the balls to simply say such in ways that those reading here can understand.

I realize you gutless types get off on thinking yourselves SO much more amazing than others because you've "mastered" yet another cryptic code bullshit methodology, but can we be honest here? If you people had any courage, you'd say your piece, just like I'm doing, you know, the guy who actually DOES have balls?

And it's not that I'm not "intelligent" enough to decipher what you're saying above, but quite frankly I'm BORED and really am not interested in your shit. (that'd be so called "illumintion" included)

So, if you can't muster the courage, do just piss the hell off, K?

Now can't we all just get along?

Sackcloth was most often made of coarse, black goat's hair. As its name indicates, it was used for sacks, but was also customarily worn by mourners (in some countries, the ancient custom is still faintly seen today when mourners wear black arm bands at funerals), or as a sign of deep repentance and humility. Ashes were often included as a further symbol of personal abhorrence and chagrin.

Mourning


"Then Jacob rent his garments, and put sackcloth upon his loins, and mourned for his son many days." (Genesis 37:34 RSV)

"Then David said to Joab and to all the people who were with him, "Rend your clothes, and gird on sackcloth, and mourn before Abner." And King David followed the bier." (2 Samuel 3:31 RSV)

"When Mordecai learned all that had been done, Mordecai rent his clothes and put on sackcloth and ashes, and went out into the midst of the city, wailing with a loud and bitter cry" (Esther 4:1 RSV) (see Haman)

Repentance


"Then He began to upbraid the cities where most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent. "Woe to you, Chorazin! woe to you, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes." (Matthew 11:20-21 RSV) (see Miracles Of Jesus Christ)

"So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh, according to the word of The Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, three days' journey in breadth. Jonah began to go into the city, going a day's journey. And he cried, "Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!" And the people of Nineveh believed God; they proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them to the least of them. Then tidings reached the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, removed his robe, and covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. And he made proclamation and published through Nineveh, "By the decree of the king and his nobles: Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste anything; let them not feed, or drink water, but let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and let them cry mightily to God; yea, let every one turn from his evil way and from the violence which is in his hands." (Jonah 3:3-8 RSV)

During the great events prior to The Return Of Jesus Christ, will the "sun become black as sackcloth"?


All of the above statements confirm your thoughts Kodesh. The two witnesses will not be concerned about their garbs - prestige and a hollywood style reception is not likely lol and their message will be one of mourning and repentance. It will be a time to reflect on our world and on ourselves a time to feel remorse, contrition, or self-reproach for what we have done or failed to do; for the millions of people affected by war and poverty who have died needlessly in this world - and for the destruction and violations we have committed against nature - because of mans greed and ego.

Kodesh you hit the nail on the head and how anyone could argue otherwise is beyond me ????? The words speak for themselves.

Good morning Saxon....



Lotus

Joshua 24:21-23
21 But the people said to Joshua, "No! We will serve the LORD." 22 Then Joshua said, "You are witnesses against yourselves that you have chosen to serve the LORD." "Yes, we are witnesses," they replied. 23 "Now then," said Joshua, "throw away the foreign gods that are among you and yield your hearts to the LORD, the God of Israel."

Deuteronomy 17:6-7
6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but no one shall be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. 7 The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you.

Deuteronomy 30:18-20
18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess. 19 This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20 and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the LORD is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Proverbs 12:17
17 A truthful witness gives honest testimony, but a false witness tells lies.

Revelation 11:4
4These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.

Zechariah 4
The Gold Lampstand and the Two Olive Trees

1 Then the angel who talked with me returned and wakened me, as a man is wakened from his sleep. 2 He asked me, "What do you see?" I answered, "I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lights on it, with seven channels to the lights. 3 Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left."

Zechariah 4:10-25
10 "Who despises the day of small things? Men will rejoice when they see the plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel. "(These seven are the eyes of the LORD, which range throughout the earth.)" 11 Then I asked the angel, "What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?" 12 Again I asked him, "What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?" 13 He replied, "Do you not know what these are?" "No, my lord," I said.14 So he said, "These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth."

Footnote: Zechariah 4:14 Or two who bring oil.

Those that claim to be witnesses do you pour out golden oil? Do you know what the golden oil is? Do you know what the olive tree represents? Do you know what the gold lampstand is?

Lotus

Saxon, do you know who "Lucifer" is?

HEY.....no wait......you mean we're all still HERE?!!!!

I thought the passover was going to change all of this?

Did Kodesh Roadkill/Dal...or whatever the hell her name is today turn into Goddess whatever the hell her name is today and fly away?

Why yes, I have the misfortune of knowing that gutless jerk up close and personal.

Why don't you get him to come see you for a change so he'll quite breathing down my neck?

What a pathetic coward, no kidding. Why so many of you want to kiss his ass and do his bidding is beyond me.

Some say he's my younger brother, but there's no way I'd claim kinship to such a sad sad sad spirit being.

If it weren't for all his witless minions donating their power to him, he'd be absolutely NOTHING, no kidding.

Why? You on speaking terms with the moron?

Gold lampstand = Golden King upon which ultimately rests the Light.

I'm not saying the Hebrew stuff doesn't have Truth within, but you and I both know it has been VERY deceptively "translated".

The witnesses will be superfat and wearing sweat pants. MARK IT DOWN

From experience there are different types of sackcloth. If you visit a grain store you will find the rough hessian type and you will also find the soft type that holds the small grains.

In spirituality 'garments' are also states of being. It speaks of people who have been humiliated, become penitent. A person with a contrite heart is warmly received by God.

[link to www.biblemeanings.info]

"Has not my hand made all these things, and so they came into being?" declares the LORD. "This is the one I esteem: he who is humble and contrite in spirit, and trembles at my word." Isaiah 66

Comfort for the Contrite
14 And it will be said: "Build up, build up, prepare the road! Remove the obstacles out of the way of my people."15 For this is what the high and lofty One says— he who lives forever, whose name is holy: "I live in a high and holy place, but also with him who is contrite and lowly in spirit, to revive the spirit of the lowly and to revive the heart of the contrite. Isa:57:14-15

Isaiah 58:5-7

5 Is this the kind of fast I have chosen,
only a day for a man to humble himself?
Is it only for bowing one's head like a reed
and for lying on sackcloth and ashes?
Is that what you call a fast,
a day acceptable to the LORD ?

6 "Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen:
to loose the chains of injustice
and untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free
and break every yoke?

7 Is it not to share your food with the hungry
and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter—
when you see the naked, to clothe him,
and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?

What did Jesus have to say about garments?

"His disciples said, "When will you be shown forth to us and when shall we behold you?" Jesus said, "When you strip naked without being ashamed, and take your garments and put them under your feet like little children and tread upon them, then [you] will see the child of the living. And you will not be afraid." 37 GT

Lotus

Well, the superfat is totally wrong, but the sweat pants is all over it.

You been remote viewing long?

Well, yeah I am.

It is my understanding that Lucifer is me!

...my flesh

I keep trying to knock him down a peg or two, and it's getting easier, but I'm not all the way there yet.


alzaya

Don't blow my cover!

Well, all the Jesus myth and excruciatingly bad hebrew translation aside, that the witness, especially the male, would be extremely humiliated and beat up in this life only stands to reason. This is Lucifer's kingdom, and it's not like they wouldn't recognize this guy the second he arrived. That's what the two giant guardian angels are about.

Too, that's why the "below" picture on the Hopi Prophecy Rock shows the "Pahana" (same guy) walking with a cane to symbolize what I'm relating here. In short, and in real terms, Pahana and your male witness (same guy IMO) is a cripple physically in this life.

What, you expected a "suffering servant" with no suffering? That's one of the big giveaway's of the Jesus Myth, he lived a "cake walk" life to only endure a bad day of dying, hardly anything deserving the "suffering" label.

MANY people have died FAR worse deaths than that fabricated in the Jesus myth.

So, keep gripping that Jesus teddy bear. One day you'll find out just how fake it is and that it really is, just so much "stuffing".

There is more truth in the Hebrew then there is in Revelations. Even the Vatican is now saying that not all in Revelations is truth. Translations always pose a problem and especially when the same words do not apply or are not available. To understand the revelations in the NT is it important to do comparative studies with the Jewish prophets because much of the revelations repeat earlier prophecies and the outcome can be different due to their translations. Do not underestimate the knowledge and gnosis of the Jewish sages/mystics that study these passages daily on many different levels.

Lotus

But aren't you female?

BTW, if someone told you that your "flesh" was Lucifer, more than likely that just means you're descended from his family line like I supposedly am. i.e. hanging in a body complements of the Sargon the Magnificent lineage or some approximation thereof.

Most have been deluded into thinking this lineage to be that of Jesus, but, as you might guess, it's a bit tough for myths to procreate.

Well, alright then, but I don't want to hear no more FAT talk, K?

...A person, or people, with stores of internal "foods" to feed on in lean times....?

Better? Prepared for a time when food will be scarce.

Yeah, that was the point of all the Hebrew retranslation I did here:

[link to z14.invisionfree.com]

Go ahead, pull out a Strong's or whatever and you'll find that it matches really well.

As well, my translation mirrors the kolbrin and many others from our Creator's perspective. Interesting too is the fact that not only had I never heard of the Kolbrin during this work, I later found commentary from Blavasky and Crowley verifying my correct identification of the "god" players as well the correct laying out of all the intense hebrew sex talk.

Actually, IMO, that Hebrew is some pretty accurate stuff and that's the reason they spend so much effort keeping it hidden in plain sight.

When you know the truth Saxon you will also know what is myth and what is not.
He said that when the truth is known it will be like a lava that covers the earth.

Love to you

Lotus

Oh, OK, I'm with ya now. Yeah, I got plenty of that on all counts.

I just don't get the impression that I'm personally going to need the physical food part though.

Lava that covers the Earth. Boy, that sure fits that Light Wave picture I'm seeing.

Oh please Saxon can you not find more reliable sources then HBB and Crowley.

I prefer to trust in God myself.


Lotus

Not true! It was written in symbols for the very purpose that those that created the bible wouldn't know what it meant and couldn't change it. The book was meant for the last days. It has now been unfolded. John the beloved helped!

Remember where Jesus told Peter, "What is it to you if I will that he (referring to John the beloved) tarries till I come back. John never died!

If you want to know what John the Beloved meant when he penned his book, go here:

[link to 666america.com]


Edited:

PS....It is not a religious book. That should tell you something right there!

LOL

OK, look, I'm not exactly a Crowley/Blavatsky fan, but they did know a thing or two about hebrew word definitions etc. They may have got the general thrust of all of this wrong, but they didn't get EVERYTHING wrong. Ya know what I mean man?

And besides, I'm just using that as an example, it's not like they're some kind of "sole source" or anything.

Tell me this Saxon did they ever step foot on the land of Israel? Have you been to Israel Saxon? I can tell you this Saxon if HBB and Crowley had known the whole truth about the Hebrew definitions then the new age/spiritual movement would not be what it is today. I will leave you to read between the lines. However, their fruits tell us a lot about the work. The Jewish people have a rich spirituality based upon virtue and a wonderful mystical heritage that many do not know themselves.

Many people judge the Jewish people based upon scriptures and that is like judging all Christians on the basis of the bible and/or all Muslims based upon the Qu'ran. Once again we shall know them by their fruit means don't look at the seed but what that seed grew into.

Lotus

Actually, I really don't know about them, but as well funded as both of them were, it wouldn't surprise me if they had.

Nope, never been to so called "israel". Is that important to you for some reason?

You DO realize that "Israel" is a bit of a misnomer, right?

And the real reason so many are hyped about Jerusalem has to do with all those ley lines intersecting there, used to control the spirit aspect of this world. That's why Lucifer is so hyped about the place and uses such for human sacrifice all the time. It's ALL about control man and keeping the witless offering up that which should never be given in ignorance.

You didn't think all that FreeMason/Zionist/Jesuit building going on there was conincidental now did ya? That's LUCIFER central man.

Is that what God taught you Saxon or is that what you read and decided for yourself?

Do you really think that buildings in your context are of any concern to God?

It would do you good to go to Israel and pick up the children in your arms and then you might not be so harsh on Israel. When you see the eyes of your own child in the eyes of theirs.

Lotus