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what does this mean for average americans? please explain. im not a moneytard.
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moar of your $ for Ukraine
(perhaps in wheelbarrows)
they need it moar
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If the rate is up to 5.0%, why are the rates the Banks pay on your money not going up?
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Because they bought a lot of bonds that at the time were yeilding 0% pretty much. The Fed raised rates so fast and hard that now they are unable to unload those bonds and purchase fresh bonds yielding a higher percentage that they can pass on to you.
What you do is move your excess funds into short term Tbills and you will make a better percentage than what the bank can pay you. This will also add to our demise.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Uh oh guys, looks like the rollercoaster of this current financial crisis might take another dip

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Or maybe UBS just wants to negotiate for more stuff. They may not want to take over credit suisse, maybe they found a bunch of toxic shit that even they cant swallow.
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That is NOT what the article says AT ALL.
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Non-paywall version: UBS set for talks with Michael Klein to terminate Credit Suisse investment bank deal
[link to www.moneycontrol.com (secure)]

UBS is set to enter talks with Michael Klein to terminate a deal that would have seen the Wall Street dealmaker [Klein] take control of much of Credit Suisse's investment bank

They're terminating Michael Klein's involvement.
Not the CS buyout.
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JPM: "$1.1 Trillion Has Exited The Most Vulnerable Banks"
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"We Are Headed For Another Train Wreck": Bill Ackman Blames Janet Yellen For Restarting The Bank Run

Yesterday, @SecYellen made reassuring comments that led the market and depositors to believe that all deposits were now implicitly guaranteed. That coupled with a leak suggesting that @USTreasury, @FDICgov and @SecYellen were looking for a way to guarantee all deposits reassured the banking sector and depositors.

This afternoon, @SecYellen walked back yesterday’s implicit support for small banks and depositors, while making it explicit that systemwide deposit guarantees were not being considered.

We have gone from implicit support for depositors to @SecYellen explicit statement today that no guarantee is being considered with rates now being raised to 5%. 5% is a threshold that makes bank deposits that much less attractive. I would be surprised if deposit outflows don’t accelerate effective immediately.
[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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JPM: "$1.1 Trillion Has Exited The Most Vulnerable Banks"
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"We Are Headed For Another Train Wreck": Bill Ackman Blames Janet Yellen For Restarting The Bank Run

Yesterday, @SecYellen made reassuring comments that led the market and depositors to believe that all deposits were now implicitly guaranteed. That coupled with a leak suggesting that @USTreasury, @FDICgov and @SecYellen were looking for a way to guarantee all deposits reassured the banking sector and depositors.

This afternoon, @SecYellen walked back yesterday’s implicit support for small banks and depositors, while making it explicit that systemwide deposit guarantees were not being considered.

We have gone from implicit support for depositors to @SecYellen explicit statement today that no guarantee is being considered with rates now being raised to 5%. 5% is a threshold that makes bank deposits that much less attractive. I would be surprised if deposit outflows don’t accelerate effective immediately.
[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


There are multiple narratives being sold back to back, as per usual. They do this in every crisis. Create the problem - lie about the problem - lie some more - change the lie to a new narrative - confuse the hell out people by repeating both lies ad nauseum so they don’t have confidence in what to do. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
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The truth of the matter is the banks are always insolvent due to fractional reserve lending.

To make matters worse, the fed removed the reserve requirements for all banks, they don't even have to hold 10% cash reserves. They don't have to hold anything.

If 2% of the depositors want their deposits back, the bank has to shut the doors because they can't even get pallets of cash fast enough. I guess they might say they could wire any amount to another bank, processed in order, but with the derivatives tower all banks are inter-related.

This is all by design now when the WEF heads are ready they can crash the banks and economies any time they want, wait long enough for true panic and suffering to settle in, then offer their central bank digital currency scam.
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JPM: "$1.1 Trillion Has Exited The Most Vulnerable Banks"
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"We Are Headed For Another Train Wreck": Bill Ackman Blames Janet Yellen For Restarting The Bank Run

Yesterday, @SecYellen made reassuring comments that led the market and depositors to believe that all deposits were now implicitly guaranteed. That coupled with a leak suggesting that @USTreasury, @FDICgov and @SecYellen were looking for a way to guarantee all deposits reassured the banking sector and depositors.

This afternoon, @SecYellen walked back yesterday’s implicit support for small banks and depositors, while making it explicit that systemwide deposit guarantees were not being considered.

We have gone from implicit support for depositors to @SecYellen explicit statement today that no guarantee is being considered with rates now being raised to 5%. 5% is a threshold that makes bank deposits that much less attractive. I would be surprised if deposit outflows don’t accelerate effective immediately.
[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


There are multiple narratives being sold back to back, as per usual. They do this in every crisis. Create the problem - lie about the problem - lie some more - change the lie to a new narrative - confuse the hell out people by repeating both lies ad nauseum so they don’t have confidence in what to do. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
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yeah, that "multiple narrative" shit might work
for elections but money either exists or it doesn't.

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yeah, that "multiple narrative" shit might work
for elections but money either exists or it doesn't.

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Well, but if it pops into existance when it is created out of nothing, then one can conclude that money simply exists. Not limited to anything else than the will of the people pushing the buttons.
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European markets have taken the interest rate hike well thought they'd be a big sell off...all calm...
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Markets are green, NASDAQ up 1.27%
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Markets are green, NASDAQ up 1.27%
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Irrelevant. Come back in a month or two and see where they are at. Markets just don't go straight up or down and you know this.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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A message from someone whose daughter works for FDIC:


Daughter works for FDIC. She texts to me out is the blue and says “enjoy your money now, not going to be worth much soon”.
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Everything they do is to devalue the dollar. Food has basically doubled in the last 2 years. Vehicles are almost the price of what houses should cost and houses have doubled to quadrupled in price. Meanwhile taxes have gone up, and red tape has as well.

The middle class is almost no more. Wages have gone down.

You have to be blind or an elite to not see this.

Only gonna get worse as everything they do is to make it worse. Doesn't even matter if you pull your money out of the banks because the dollar is being devalued every day.
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Markets are green, NASDAQ up 1.27%
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Irrelevant. Come back in a month or two and see where they are at. Markets just don't go straight up or down and you know this.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Of course I know, the overall average is 12% annual growth and we average 20%
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Markets are green, NASDAQ up 1.27%
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Irrelevant. Come back in a month or two and see where they are at. Markets just don't go straight up or down and you know this.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Of course I know, the overall average is 12% annual growth and we average 20%
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so you're basically matching inflation.

lol
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Markets are green, NASDAQ up 1.27%
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Irrelevant. Come back in a month or two and see where they are at. Markets just don't go straight up or down and you know this.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Of course I know, the overall average is 12% annual growth and we average 20%
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so you're basically matching inflation.

lol
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Inflation is generally 2-3% annually
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