Why does God adopt 144,000 as sons, aren't all obedient his children? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84644348 United States 02/07/2023 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF YOU WILL SIMPLY QUOTE THE VERSES REGARDING THE 144,000 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85226130 YOU WILL NOT NEED ANYONE TO EXPLAIN THEM TO YOU. THEY ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR. PROMISE. . This is not true. You can not read the Bible on your own. You must have the Watchtower publications along with the Bible so the Watchtower can tell you what the Bible says. The Watchtower is smart and we are dumb sheep and need to follow the good shepherd Tony Morris and his band of merry men. |
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(OP) User ID: 78176519 United States 02/07/2023 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF YOU WILL SIMPLY QUOTE THE VERSES REGARDING THE 144,000 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85226130 YOU WILL NOT NEED ANYONE TO EXPLAIN THEM TO YOU. THEY ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR. PROMISE. . This is not true. You can not read the Bible on your own. You must have the Watchtower publications along with the Bible so the Watchtower can tell you what the Bible says. The Watchtower is smart and we are dumb sheep and need to follow the good shepherd Tony Morris and his band of merry men. Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 2I heard a sound coming out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was like singers who accompany themselves by playing on their harps. 3And they are singing what seems to be a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth. Rv14 Last Edited by DGN on 02/07/2023 10:47 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83557032 Japan 02/08/2023 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84943068 --- Do the events associated with Christ’s presence take place in a very brief time or over a period of years? Matt. 24:37-39: “Just as the days of Noah were, so the presence [“coming,” RS, TEV; “presence,” Yg, Ro, ED; Greek, parousia] of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.” (The events of “the days of Noah” that are described here took place over a period of many years. Jesus compared his presence with what occurred back then.) At Matthew 24:37 the Greek word parousia is used. Literally it means a “being alongside.” Liddell and Scott’s Greek-English Lexicon (Oxford, 1968) gives “presence, of persons,” as its first definition of parousia The sense of the word is clearly indicated at Philippians 2:12, where Paul contrasts his presence ( parousia) with his absence (apousia). On the other hand, in Matthew 24:30, which tells of the “Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” as Jehovah’s executioner at the war of Armageddon, the Greek word erkhomenon is used. Some translators use ‘coming’ for both Greek words, but those that are more careful convey the difference between the two. )w.org |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80855121 United States 02/08/2023 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most likely, someone just made up the story and the 144,000. There’s no reason to believe it’s actually true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78741318 Whether it is true or not may not be certain. But one thing is certain, that at our low state of awareness our personal human biases will twist anything to become the way we wanted it to be. |
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(OP) User ID: 79880016 United States 02/08/2023 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is not about obedience or works Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81022464 it is trusting the sacrifice of Christ on the cross Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. 18[iNevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith without works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 22You see that his faith was active along with his works and his faith was perfected by his works, 23and the scripture was fulfilled that says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called Jehovah’s friend. Ja2:14 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85086549 United States 02/08/2023 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is not about obedience or works Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81022464 it is trusting the sacrifice of Christ on the cross Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. 18[iNevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith without works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 22You see that his faith was active along with his works and his faith was perfected by his works, 23and the scripture was fulfilled that says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called Jehovah’s friend. Ja2:14 And many Jehovah's Witnesses will approach him in that day and say Lord Lord haven't we done all these works in your name ? Haven't we copy and pasted Watchtower articles and posted them on GLP and haven't we knocked on doors, and haven't we shunned our children, mothers, fathers sposes in you name Jehovah? And He will say to the Jehovah's Witnesses, Depart from me you worker's of iniquity. I NEVER KNEW YOU |
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(OP) User ID: 75124521 United States 02/08/2023 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects, and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves. 2Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct, and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively. 3Also, they will greedily exploit you with counterfeit words. But their judgment, decided long ago, is not moving slowly, and their destruction is not sleeping. 2Pe2 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78019223 United States 11/10/2023 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm so happy I'm awakening to the fact all scripture was rewritten. We been lied to. What's even funnier is people who tell me o well I go by the bible. .....I say show me where Christmas trees and Easter bunnies are in there. Religion...a program in the simulation doing its job well. The romantic love program is another great distraction. Rachel |
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