Is The Rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:3?

Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

2Thessalonians 2:3

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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In the Book of Isaiah, God reveals to us what the earth will be like during the Millennium.

The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf, the lion and the yearling, and a little child will lead them. The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. The infant will play near the cobra’s den, and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.

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Are you filled with the knowledge of the Lord?

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In the Book of Matthew, Jesus tells us,

Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

For their hearts have become calloused, they can hardly hear with their ears and they have closed their eyes.

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As a little child, did you ever consider the idea of killing an animal so you could eat it? No you did not, because as a little child your heart was pure. Such a thought would have never entered your mind.

But, since you were taught to eat animals from infancy, by the time you were old enough to understand what you were doing, your heart had accepted what it would have never accepted as an innocent child.

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Have you changed and become like a little child?

Or, does your heart remain calloused?

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In the Book of Revelation, we are told,

In the center around the throne were four Living Creatures and they were covered with eyes in front and in back. The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. Each of the four Living Creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying,

"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come."

And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying,

"We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. The nations were angry and your wrath has come."

"The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small— and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

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Do you destroy the earth?

Do you destroy God's Living Creatures?

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In the Book of Revelation, we are told,

The sea gave up the dead that were in it and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire, for nothing impure will ever enter the kingdom of heaven, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life.

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On the day of your judgment will Jesus say to you,

"Your name is not in the Book of Life for how could it be since you were a destroyer of life."?

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And the man who God had plucked from the multitude to awaken the people to the hour of their great judgment was unable to do so. He looked up to God and said,

"My Father, why has your message been met with such defiance? Can they not see their creator is bringing forth the hour of their judgment?"

And God said,

"Let them reap what they sow. If they choose to sow death, then death they will reap."

It’s falling away/departure/ rebelling against.

It means that all at one time the Laws of God, kindness, charity, love, humility, and forgiveness, will be removed in the global population and replaced with hate, anger, vengeance, greed, and unrighteousness. It’s when the Laws of God are removed from men’s hearts in what will seem like an instant, it allows the Man of Lawlessness to rise.

It’s not the rapture. It means there is an event coming that will cause the world to reject God completely. The Qanons call it the “scare event” in which their earthly savior Donald Trump has his glorious 2nd coming(LOL). It has to be massive and affect the entire world all at one time. It’s the collapse of the dollar.

Last Edited by clemmens14 on 02/04/2023 09:34 PM

wow.

OP - you should repent.

Your interpretation is absolute bull crap.

The Bible plainly teaches in multiple locations that most people will "fall away" from the Faith in the end times, and many will be deceived, even the elite.......

"the falling away" means just that. The masses reject faith, as we have seen over the last generation or so.

You need to stop trying to deceive people.

Yes. Unfortunately, there has been a great falling away. It started in a Europe first but in recent years it has come to America.

It is so sad.

The Rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:1–10


"The Removal of the Restrainer is the Rapture

There have been various views concerning the identity of the restrainer...

...the Holy Spirit is the restrainer because only a member of the Godhead is able to restrain this man of sin who is empowered by Satan."


"The “Falling Away” is the Rapture

Two possible solutions have been presented as to the identity of the “falling away.” The first solution is the one traditionally given and is still the most popular view today. It understands the “falling away” as a great apostasy or departure from the faith. Almost any standard commentary will defend this position. For a detailed defense of this view see The Thessalonian Epistles by D. Edmond Hiebert. Basically the argument is that the Greek word translated “falling away” means a religious apostasy. The second solution which is possible understands the “falling away” as a reference to the rapture of the church. This view is defended by E. Schuyler English in his book, Re-Thinking the Rapture.

There are four reasons which, when taken together, seem to indicate that Paul was referring to the rapture when he mentioned this term..."


"Conclusion

If both the removal of the Restrainer and the “falling away” refer to the rapture of the Church, then II Thessalonians 2:1–10 offers two proofs for the rapture occurring before the Tribulation."


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The Rapture Comes First, 2 Thessalonians 2:3 – June 14th, 2020

In a teaching out of 2 Thessalonians 2:3, titled, “The Rapture Comes First” Pastor J.D. provides three reasons why what many refer to as “the falling away,” is actually the rapture of the church.

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Rapture or Apostasy in 2 Thess. 2:3?

Discover several reasons why Dr. Andy Woods believes the Greek word for "departure" in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is better translated a physical departure (rapture), rather than a spiritual departure (apostasy). 2015.

The Lord Himself never taught about a rapture before tribulation, anywhere in scripture.

Twisting His scripture to assert that he did, is pure deception and staunchly warned about those adding to or taking away from His Living Word.

John 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

It’s unfortunate for rapture believers because you never leave Revelation 4. You stay stuck there, where you are stuck right now, waiting to be raptured and not allowing the rest of Revelation to be revealed to you. You are going to follow the AC. You will take his mark. You will face the wrath of God at the end. You never leave Revelation 4. I think of all the false things the world believes, that will be the saddest because most of you are people of faith who just fell for a false teaching. You will go through Tribulation and not even know it.

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The Rapture Sermon Series 18. Explaining the Apostasia in 2 Thess. 2:3a - Part 1

The Rapture 018 - “2 Thessalonians 2:3a,” August 16, 2020. The apostasy controversy - part 1. Dr. Andy Woods, Sr. Pastor.

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Overview: 2 Thessalonians

Right! We all live a life filled with trials and tribulation. All to make us stronger and wiser in preparation to endure to the end s He proclaims. Calling all to be faithful unto the end when He comes with our reward. If your already gone your gonna miss out on that.
He also promises a double outpouring of His Holy Spirit in those days to help withstand the wiles of the devil.
And before the angel of the bottomless pit releases whats in it onto the earth and its inhabitants He marks all of those that are His in the forehead , so as commanded to an angel by Himself not any harm could come to one hair on their heads. That doesnt sound like a rapture out of harms way to me! It sounds like Almighty God says the way through to heaven is through the refiners fire where none but His can follow.

Why all the preparation and promises of help and strength in a time of trouble to befall all of mankind, so He can openly demonstrate to the world who is who and what is what?

Why would anyone want to avoid what He declared as the narrow and difficult road where few there be that find it, but to instead be whisk away from the greatest moment ever foretold in time? Even the apostles argued among themselves thinking they would be alive in that time, and who would perform the greatest works.
While those who claim a rapture away from it is whats been laid out for them.
Sorry but ive been walking in this fallen and evil world for more than 6 decades now, being delivered over and over under the most unsurmountable of circumstances. People trying to kill me, destroy me, ruin me, and hurt the people that i love.

And i watched ever single time Jesus's promise to never forsake me or allow me to fall no matter the odds. It played out on a perpetual basis, even at times when i knew i would be dead meat without Him, and had been unfaithful to Him.

Whats the need for that if your already gone? He set the parameters not me. Everything He teaches is in preparation for the hour of temptation when mens faith on earth will be tested!

He builds warriors and courage in brave men, he isnt looking for escapee's.

Conclusion

The fact that apostasia most likely has the meaning of physical departure is a clear support for pretribulationism. If this is true, (Dr. Tim LaHaye and I believe that it is), then it means that a clear prophetic sequence is laid out by Paul early in his Apostolic ministry. Paul teaches in 2 Thessalonians 2 that the rapture will occur first, before the Day of the Lord commences. It is not until after the beginning of the Day of the Lord that the Antichrist is released, resulting in the events described by him in chapter 2 of 2 Thessalonians. This is the only interpretation that provides hope for a discomforted people. Maranatha!

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"But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,
and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore,and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man."


Luke 21:34-36

Why do you Rapturists indist on twisting and perverting His Word to confirm to the satanic rapture doctrines.

There sre serious consequences for doing so

Why do you believe and insist that Jesus Christ wants His Faithful to suffer the Satanic Hell on Earth?
Why would Jesus Christ want His Faithful Believers the Bride the Church to suffer the Satanic Hell on Earth?
What sense does that make? Why would Jesus do that?

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Dr. Andy Woods on 2nd Thessalonians 2:3 -- "Falling Away"

Thank you for sharing that. Rapturists are becoming increasingly desperate to find other out of context verses to justify the only verse they have so far twisted from its foundations to lead believers astray

For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ

1Thessalonians 5:9


For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little.

Isaiah 28:10


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth.

Revelation 3:10


In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.

John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.

Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.

Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.

Psalms 27:5


"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 24:44-51


But take heed to yourselves,
lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,
and that Day come on you unexpectedly.

For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.

Luke 21:34-36


For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest you should be wise in your own opinion,
that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Romans 11:25


Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1Corinthians 15:50-53


It is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord:
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know,
God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven.
And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows—
how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

2Corinthians 12:1-4


But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
Therefore comfort one another with these words.

1Thessalonians 4:13-18


And may the Lord make you increase and abound in love to one another and to all, just as we do to you,
so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1Thessalonians 3:12,13

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Frenzied opposition indicates Truth.

In the last day.
He gave all of his promises that allow for our escape of all of those things that will come to pass. Those promises ensure us of His deliverance from those things coming to pass, it doesnt mean you escape the time of those things to befall all of mankind!!

It means you are protected from those things during that time!

As i said. You are quoting scripture out of context to justify your deception by the satanic rapture doctrines.

There is only one heavily abused by Rapturists verse by Paul that the whole ungodly house of cards called the satanic rapture doctrines rests upon.

Game, set and match for a Pre-Tribulational Rapture...

How can I be one of the Raptured?

OP what do I need to do?

Lay it all on me.

No that is not the rapture. This is like John 6:66 where Jesus said some tough things and many turned away from Him and followed Him no more.

I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth.

I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.

Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity

you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.

For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;







For anyone with eyes to see..