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POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?

 
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POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
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the anchor baby one.
discuss.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Do you need a Balloon...

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Do you need a Balloon...

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77459609


lol sure

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"The original intent of the 14th Amendment was clearly not to facilitate illegal aliens defying U.S. law and obtaining citizenship for their offspring, nor obtaining benefits at taxpayer expense. Current estimates indicate there may be over 300,000 anchor babies born each year in the U.S., thus causing illegal alien mothers to add more to the U.S. population each year than immigration from all sources in an average year before 1965."
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Australia rescinded birthright citizenship in 2007, as did New Zealand in 2006, Ireland in 2005, France in 1993, and the United Kingdom in 1983. This leaves the United States and Canada as the only remaining industrialized nations to grant automatic citizenship to every person born within the borders of the country, irrespective of their parents' nationality or immigration status.

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02/03/2023 04:06 PM
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
it's just been misinterpreted through the years...
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02/03/2023 04:23 PM
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
NO!!

The 14th Amendment insures the law applies to everyone equally
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
The 14th Amendment insures the law applies to everyone equally

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applies to everyone equally?

That's a laugh...

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02/03/2023 04:25 PM
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Is the Constitution enforced enough for this idea to matter?

And nope it should not be abolished because it reaches further than the idea of the OP's.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Is the Constitution enforced enough for this idea to matter?

And nope it should not be abolished because it reaches further than the idea of the OP's.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


i listed modified as a choice, in case you didn't notice.
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02/03/2023 04:27 PM
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
NO!!

The 14th Amendment insures the law applies to everyone equally
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73752994


It was made to ensure the offspring of former African American slaves would be considered equal citizens. Even Native Americans were not considered US citizens until after 1920.
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02/03/2023 04:28 PM
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the babies become US citizens... the fathers and mothers do not. Take the babies into our US system for adoption... and arrest and/or deport the illegibly trespassing parents... they lose their rights...case closed.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
NO!!

The 14th Amendment insures the law applies to everyone equally
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73752994


It was made to ensure the offspring of former African American slaves would be considered equal citizens. Even Native Americans were not considered US citizens until after 1920.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81680631


hesright
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I thought it was about giving women the right to vote. Oh well, same answer.
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02/03/2023 04:40 PM
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Is the Constitution enforced enough for this idea to matter?

And nope it should not be abolished because it reaches further than the idea of the OP's.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


i listed modified as a choice, in case you didn't notice.
 Quoting: GenieInABottle


That's cool, but would the current commies in power care if it was modified or not? They will pour even more in over the border.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
it's just been misinterpreted through the years...
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Has it been put before the Supreme Court? Don't the parents have to be in the United States LEGALLY? If not, then yes, it should be modified that the parents have to be legal permenant residences of the United States. Then we can make clear the requirements for President AND any successors, that his/her parents had to have a legal, U.S. citizenship and be born on the physical land of one of the 50 United States for him/her to be a natural born citizen and eligible to be president.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
I thought it was about giving women the right to vote. Oh well, same answer.
 Quoting: vEyeSea


That was the 19th in 1920. The 15th in 1870 guaranteed Black men the right to vote, but no women, including White women. Native Americans were not even citizens until 1924.
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We don't need no more stinking Mexicans.

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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
I thought it was about giving women the right to vote. Oh well, same answer.
 Quoting: vEyeSea


That was the 19th in 1920. The 15th in 1870 guaranteed Black men the right to vote, but no women, including White women. Native Americans were not even citizens until 1924.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81680631


A succession of comedic errors.
Now we get to live the punchline.

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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Welp, there is where all the insurrection bullshit talk comes from. I mean, if they wanted an amendment to confer citizenship on freed slaves then just write it that way. I guess all the insurrection/rebellion language was geared towards Confederates, but give me a break, you can't disenfranchise the entire South. That isn't practical or logical. I do like the fact that it applies due process to across the board to everyone. I don't think it was intended to apply to anchor babies, but here we are.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
19th first
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19th first
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Beat me to it sir. cheers
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02/03/2023 05:46 PM
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Yes, only "special" people should be protected by the law.

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The 14th Amendment allows the federal government to form corporations with all the rights of natural persons.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
The 14th Amendment also created an artificial status called "Citizen of the United States" which, being a creation of the government, is therefore controlled by the government.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Not even people.
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
it's just been misinterpreted through the years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2226485


^This is my understanding. The Anchor Baby interpretation has never been brought before the Supreme Court.

The real question is why hasn't MTG or one of these MAGA people proposed a law clarifying that Anchor Babies are not citizens of the USA, but Citizens of the country to whom their parent's citizenship points.

Then it would go b4 the SC and ruled up or down
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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
the anchor baby one.
discuss.
 Quoting: GenieInABottle


We need more of this

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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
the anchor baby one.
discuss.
 Quoting: GenieInABottle


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Re: POLL: Should the 14th Amendment be abolished?
Yes it should be rescinded and made retroactive to 1965. Basically if you are an anchor born 1965 or later your ass should be stripped of US citizenship and deported along with any spawn you have and their spawn too.





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