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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85209427 France 02/05/2023 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would organize my response in several areas. Quoting: JustmeTX Absolute scientific proof. - Persistence of a massive rubble pile at molten iron temperatures for 30 days after the event. Impossible without nano-thermite explanation. (the reaction continued in the pile for 30 days, using excess unreacted thermite, which would self regulate at the observed temperatures in a confined environment (the rubble pile), in accordance with Le Chatelier's principle. - Lab findings of Unreacted nano-thermite in the dust - Lab findings of products of nano-thermite reaction (iron micro-spheres formed when elemental iron is produced from the strongly exothermic reaction, which start as tiny bits of molton iron that is ejected from the reaction, becomes airborne and hardens to a sphere. They also found leftover polymers from the sol gel process. They (Mt Sinai Hosp) also found nanocarbon fibers in the lungs of first responders, a fiber that acts like asbestos and causes lung cancer, which plagued these men for the rest of their short lives. - Observation of molten iron running out of the towers, as reported by firefighters and visible on any footage of the towers. - Radar tracking that shows the WTC attack plane speeds at OVER 500 knots air speed at very low altitude. Impossible because they lacked the engine power and impossible because the airframe would disintegrate with those air drag forces and impossible because the flight control surfaces would fail in several ways. (Flutter, physically breaking, or existing in an area where they would have no effect at those speeds (an effect that was first noticed on the P-38 Lightning planes from WWII. They had to extend the tail booms to get the Elevator on the tail clear of an air convergence zone that developed at higher speeds. Obvious lies - Commercial planes operating at impossible speeds at low altitudes. - Cell phone calls from planes at 30,000 feet. - The Shanksville fake plane crash. There was no plane. responders remarked that there was no evidence of a plane crash. just a little grass fire. - Passports emerged from a colossal fireball and landed in an FBI agent's hands in good readable condition. - Bush and others said "Nobody could ever imagine that a civilian airliner could be used as a weapon to strike a building". They were literally war gaming this scenario throughout government. - Random terrorists that had not even demonstrated pilot competence on a cessna prop plane could not possibly have flow heavy, multi-engine, modern glass cockpit jets, and perform maneuvers at impossible speeds, which even seasoned pilots were unable to replicate on flight simulators. Obvious shill reading a script - Harley Davidson guy Poisoned investigation. - 911 commission was led by members of PNAC. - 911 commission did not even mention WTC 7 - Investigations never once considered explosives. - Building was not tested for explosives residues. Obvious cover up and interference with investigation - They confiscated the hard drives of all security cameras anywhere near the WTC. They released almost no footage. - Rumsfeld and his team doing a debris collection walk across the lawn of the Pentagon after the event. Evidence is supposed to be preserved! These fucks are on video tampering with a crime scene. - The steel from the WTC collapse was hauled off to China as fast as humanly possible and remelted. - Bush and Cheney refused to testify under oath or separately or in public. Their testimony was given in secret, not under oath, and sitting together so Cheney could answer the questions, as Bush had the mental capacity of a chimp. Coverups mafia style: Murder of world Explosive demolitions expert Danny Jowenko, who stated several times on video and audio recordings that the WTC collapse was 100% a controlled demolition. The arrest of CIA asset Susan Lindhauer under the brand new Patriot act. She had been the back channel to Iraq. She told her story and they tried to lobotomize her. Only a courageous lawyer and her own indomitable force of will kept her from having her brain turned into pudding. Foreknowledge of future events - stock manipulations - The purchase of the WTC by "Lucky Larry" which had a massive asbestos problem and insuring the heck out of it. - The BBC reporting that WTC 7 collapsed about a half hour before it actually collapsed. - Lucky Larry Silverstein made sure to avoid the WTC that day. - Lucky Larry said he told them to "Pull it" And they "Pulled it", and WTC 7 came down. Its use for political purposes - Patriot Act was in the can and ready to pass. This removed citizen rights to privacy and established the freedom sucking search Nazis (TSA) at the airports. - Used as a basis for war. - A war against Afghanistan and Iraq, neither of which was even shown to be involved. Coincidences - Multiple war games that day to divert fighters and have them chase image ghosts all over the country. - First day on the job for the guy that was supposed to coordinate air defenses. - Emergency phone systems that didn't work. - Cheney telling someone to follow his original orders (to not engage an air target headed to the Pentagon.) - The PNAC had just said that year that "what we need is a new Pearl Harbor". Something with enough body count to enrage the nation for war. Anyway, the list writes itself. I have omitted a lot of stuff, but those are the highlights without having to look up anything. Indeed well compiled list. I really fell for the "Pearl Harbor of our lifetime" after 9.11 but eventually the pieces of the puzzle made sense. WTC 7 was the ultimate tell for me- lower level interior collapse has the hallmarks of controlled demolition. |
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User ID: 84369183 United States 02/05/2023 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would organize my response in several areas. Quoting: JustmeTX Absolute scientific proof. - Persistence of a massive rubble pile at molten iron temperatures for 30 days after the event. Impossible without nano-thermite explanation. (the reaction continued in the pile for 30 days, using excess unreacted thermite, which would self regulate at the observed temperatures in a confined environment (the rubble pile), in accordance with Le Chatelier's principle. - Lab findings of Unreacted nano-thermite in the dust - Lab findings of products of nano-thermite reaction (iron micro-spheres formed when elemental iron is produced from the strongly exothermic reaction, which start as tiny bits of molton iron that is ejected from the reaction, becomes airborne and hardens to a sphere. They also found leftover polymers from the sol gel process. They (Mt Sinai Hosp) also found nanocarbon fibers in the lungs of first responders, a fiber that acts like asbestos and causes lung cancer, which plagued these men for the rest of their short lives. - Observation of molten iron running out of the towers, as reported by firefighters and visible on any footage of the towers. - Radar tracking that shows the WTC attack plane speeds at OVER 500 knots air speed at very low altitude. Impossible because they lacked the engine power and impossible because the airframe would disintegrate with those air drag forces and impossible because the flight control surfaces would fail in several ways. (Flutter, physically breaking, or existing in an area where they would have no effect at those speeds (an effect that was first noticed on the P-38 Lightning planes from WWII. They had to extend the tail booms to get the Elevator on the tail clear of an air convergence zone that developed at higher speeds. Obvious lies - Commercial planes operating at impossible speeds at low altitudes. - Cell phone calls from planes at 30,000 feet. - The Shanksville fake plane crash. There was no plane. responders remarked that there was no evidence of a plane crash. just a little grass fire. - Passports emerged from a colossal fireball and landed in an FBI agent's hands in good readable condition. - Bush and others said "Nobody could ever imagine that a civilian airliner could be used as a weapon to strike a building". They were literally war gaming this scenario throughout government. - Random terrorists that had not even demonstrated pilot competence on a cessna prop plane could not possibly have flow heavy, multi-engine, modern glass cockpit jets, and perform maneuvers at impossible speeds, which even seasoned pilots were unable to replicate on flight simulators. Obvious shill reading a script - Harley Davidson guy Poisoned investigation. - 911 commission was led by members of PNAC. - 911 commission did not even mention WTC 7 - Investigations never once considered explosives. - Building was not tested for explosives residues. Obvious cover up and interference with investigation - They confiscated the hard drives of all security cameras anywhere near the WTC. They released almost no footage. - Rumsfeld and his team doing a debris collection walk across the lawn of the Pentagon after the event. Evidence is supposed to be preserved! These fucks are on video tampering with a crime scene. - The steel from the WTC collapse was hauled off to China as fast as humanly possible and remelted. - Bush and Cheney refused to testify under oath or separately or in public. Their testimony was given in secret, not under oath, and sitting together so Cheney could answer the questions, as Bush had the mental capacity of a chimp. Coverups mafia style: Murder of world Explosive demolitions expert Danny Jowenko, who stated several times on video and audio recordings that the WTC collapse was 100% a controlled demolition. The arrest of CIA asset Susan Lindhauer under the brand new Patriot act. She had been the back channel to Iraq. She told her story and they tried to lobotomize her. Only a courageous lawyer and her own indomitable force of will kept her from having her brain turned into pudding. Foreknowledge of future events - stock manipulations - The purchase of the WTC by "Lucky Larry" which had a massive asbestos problem and insuring the heck out of it. - The BBC reporting that WTC 7 collapsed about a half hour before it actually collapsed. - Lucky Larry Silverstein made sure to avoid the WTC that day. - Lucky Larry said he told them to "Pull it" And they "Pulled it", and WTC 7 came down. Its use for political purposes - Patriot Act was in the can and ready to pass. This removed citizen rights to privacy and established the freedom sucking search Nazis (TSA) at the airports. - Used as a basis for war. - A war against Afghanistan and Iraq, neither of which was even shown to be involved. Coincidences - Multiple war games that day to divert fighters and have them chase image ghosts all over the country. - First day on the job for the guy that was supposed to coordinate air defenses. - Emergency phone systems that didn't work. - Cheney telling someone to follow his original orders (to not engage an air target headed to the Pentagon.) - The PNAC had just said that year that "what we need is a new Pearl Harbor". Something with enough body count to enrage the nation for war. Anyway, the list writes itself. I have omitted a lot of stuff, but those are the highlights without having to look up anything. Indeed well compiled list. I really fell for the "Pearl Harbor of our lifetime" after 9.11 but eventually the pieces of the puzzle made sense. WTC 7 was the ultimate tell for me- lower level interior collapse has the hallmarks of controlled demolition. I was very busy with work at the time, so didn't look into any of the irregularities for several years. Finally I clicked on a video showing WTC 7 drop like a textbook demolition and said, oh crap! This cannot possibly be explained by the official story. The building was way too broad across to drop in such a coordinated level manner. Simply not possible. Then I saw the Presentation that Professor/Dr. Niels Harrit gave at the Toronto 9-11 Symposium, it was all laid bare. People can be excused for not seeing through this. Nano-thermite was a newly invented substance, created by the military for the Small Diameter bomb if I am not mistaken. Before that, such demolition charges were quite obvious because of the sounds of the exploding charges. Nanothermite can create the same devastation without nearly as much sound of explosions. The PNC assumed they could outsmart Americans with this trickery. And they largely were correct and succeeded. But once the various experts got together and compared notes at the Toronto Symposium, it was game over. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/05/2023 01:47 PM Justme |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84619153 United States 02/05/2023 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would organize my response in several areas. Quoting: JustmeTX Absolute scientific proof... Obvious lies... Obvious shill reading a script... Poisoned investigation... Obvious cover up and interference with investigation... Coverups mafia style... Foreknowledge of future events... Its use for political purposes... Coincidences... Anyway, the list writes itself. I have omitted a lot of stuff, but those are the highlights without having to look up anything. thinking of the server when i deleted info. pls forgive. |
JustmeTX
User ID: 84369183 United States 02/05/2023 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would organize my response in several areas. Quoting: JustmeTX Absolute scientific proof... Obvious lies... Obvious shill reading a script... Poisoned investigation... Obvious cover up and interference with investigation... Coverups mafia style... Foreknowledge of future events... Its use for political purposes... Coincidences... Anyway, the list writes itself. I have omitted a lot of stuff, but those are the highlights without having to look up anything. thinking of the server when i deleted info. pls forgive. No worries, I should have done the same. :) Justme |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85096990 United States 02/05/2023 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mine is the fact that they cant show us one pic, of a 757 hitting the Pentagon. If they could do that, that would go a long way Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78494304 There are 2 videos of a missile hitting the Pentagon. Someone recently showed one on here. The one they posted was REALLY GOOD showed a bird’s eye view of the missile hitting the Pentagon. 100% UNDENIABLE. It’s over at that point. Pretty mother fucking insane that everyone still acts like a plane hit it. It was obvious as fuck that a plane didn’t hit it given how minimal the damage was. Here ya go. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80692706 United States 02/05/2023 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, actually, it would have been the phone call on the plane that slammed into the ground. Being short just one hijacker doesn't equal a failed hijack. And that phone call was sus as hell with them saying to storm the hijackers after finding out that the planes were slamming into buildings. It sounded really suspect, like maybe the aliens thought that since they decreased the hijacker count by one that they could now legitly force the plane into the ground. Really suspect. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66121452 United States 02/05/2023 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The least credible part of the farce was two super tall buildings being demolished from the top down and falling into their own footprint. Then building seven was demolished from the bottom up, with the building falling into its own footprint again, using a different and more conventional demo technique. THEN, molten metal remained in the cavity at the base remaining there for over two months. That was not normal anywhere. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85198688 United States 02/05/2023 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mine is the fact that they cant show us one pic, of a 757 hitting the Pentagon. If they could do that, that would go a long way Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78494304 What about the people who were driving on the Interstate and saw it? They were on TV you know. The people who weren't on TV were the folks who saw the Shanksville plane shot down by a tomahawk missile striking the cockpit and blowing US mail all over the place (common practice for commercial airliners) like a chinese balloon over Pennsylvania |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85198688 United States 02/05/2023 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suppose WTC7 was also demoed by nano-thermite and classified thermobarics as contingency for WTC ever since the complex was built to house gold, government secrets, and proprietary data. They shot down a plane over PA They blew up some buildings Thousands of people died It was a low end pittance compared to the MILLIONS who have been genocided by Big Pharma's Operation OrangeSpeed Clot Shot or the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died over fake wars orchestrated by CIA |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77844058 United States 02/05/2023 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are more cameras around the pentagram(gon), than just about any place in the jewnited states at that time and not a single clear video of an airplane coming in to leave a what, 19 ft. hole in the building? Only one grainy video of a flash of what might be the end of a collision of something that looked to be a bomb or rocket? That was my first red flag. After that, to everything was evidence against the official narrative. They're should've been multiple, date I say dozens or hundreds of videos of this. |
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