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POLL: MAN STEALS $100 FROM a STORE'S REGISTER. THEN HE BUYS $70 OF GOODS FROM THAT STORE & GETS $30 CHANGE. HOW MUCH DID THE STORE LOSE?

 
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store:
-$100
-$70 in goods
-$30 in change

youths:
$70 returned

=>$130
 Quoting: OculusVision


lol... lol.... LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85145540


right, the robber also spends $30 by giving the bill, so the 30s cancel each other out, so it's just $100.
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Too late. Your stupid is already showing. lol
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For the purpose of this poll, profit margins are not taken into consideration.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


How convenient, and it makes the results of the poll useless in determining the stores actual losses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Translation: muh head hurtsez tryin to do simple maf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14267443


Actually I gave the only correct answer because I realize unrealized profits cannot be stolen.


I explained my reasoning succinctly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


"Unrealized profit" becomes "Realized" once it's stolen, doesn't it, LOL
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store:
-$100
-$70 in goods
-$30 in change

youths:
$70 returned

=>$130
 Quoting: OculusVision


lol... lol.... LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85145540


right, the robber also spends $30 by giving the bill, so the 30s cancel each other out, so it's just $100.
 Quoting: OculusVision


100 dollars MINUS the unrealized profits which are NOT losses on the 70 dollars RETAIL price. The goods were not worth the 70 dollar price on them
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Re: POLL: MAN STEALS $100 FROM a STORE'S REGISTER. THEN HE BUYS $70 OF GOODS FROM THAT STORE & GETS $30 CHANGE. HOW MUCH DID THE STORE LOSE?
$100 because that is the final value of cash and products the man stole from the store.

Stole $100 but gave it back to buy goods so the net effect to the store is $0. But then he got $70 in products and $30 in change and left the store.
Does this mean we're not friends anymore? You know, if I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it.
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How convenient, and it makes the results of the poll useless in determining the stores actual losses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Translation: muh head hurtsez tryin to do simple maf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14267443


Actually I gave the only correct answer because I realize unrealized profits cannot be stolen.


I explained my reasoning succinctly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


"Unrealized profit" becomes "Realized" once it's stolen, doesn't it, LOL
 Quoting: Ginseng


Why?
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$200 is winning the poll, LOL

(But the answer, based on the stipulations, is $100)
 Quoting: Ginseng


Yes it is indeed. The theft was for 100. At the point of business purchase, anywhere, including the place that had the theft, that transaction is done at profit to the company.

The original 100 dollar theft is the issue.

And insurance matters, which are expensive to begin with, aren't the issue, the original theft was.
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The only real question is can you steal something form a thief that hasn't been stolen itself yet.

PROFIT = THEFT



You can call it what you ant to if it makes you feel better about being ripped off
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78747136


The only question is, did the thief steal the stores profit or not when he walked out of the store? This profit never existed, it was potential profit. A significantly large part of the original 100 dollars was profit, in fact, but the store had already realized those profits.

This is NOT "does a thief steal from a thief when he steals from him" problem, this is a logical calculation of the stores actual LOSSES. 30 dollars cash + 70 dollars RETAIL PRICE of the goods the thief bought and walked out of the store with minus the amount the store would have made in profit off of those 70 dollars retail prices
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Losses include the market value of the store's products. When the thief stole them, he didn't just steal their cost to stock the products but he stole the profits they would have made.

Supply and demand, Laissez-Fair of the market. No criminal or "average Joe" gets to walk into a shop and demand the product at cost the shop paid for it. You want milk or eggs? Then buy some land and grown your own cows and chickens, if you feel it's unfair to pay the shop owner any profit.
 Quoting: Ginseng


You CANNOT steal unrealized profits
PERIOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


That's bullshit. If you take something that doesn't belong to you, you have no say as to how much it was worth. You don't know. And if you're just a loser scumbag who has to steal because you can't get by, just go to a fucking food bank. It's free. If you're stealing luxury items, then you're a double scumbag.

You don't get to decide what the value is of my product. The market decides.
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Re: POLL: MAN STEALS $100 FROM a STORE'S REGISTER. THEN HE BUYS $70 OF GOODS FROM THAT STORE & GETS $30 CHANGE. HOW MUCH DID THE STORE LOSE?
2.4% = OTHER = CORRECT

The store claimed on their insurance you dick brains the store lost nothing at all it actually gained - It sold produce and got robbed it is actually making money.

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Re: POLL: MAN STEALS $100 FROM a STORE'S REGISTER. THEN HE BUYS $70 OF GOODS FROM THAT STORE & GETS $30 CHANGE. HOW MUCH DID THE STORE LOSE?
When deposits are done, then $100 is going to be missing from the till.

(-100)
(-070)
(+100)
(-030)
=
-100

What the store actually loses depends on cost, but if it was where I ass. managed with my store manager that cashier well...

She would lose a job and her dignity. The next day, the girl would be walked handcuffed out, charged with theft. My manager was a bitch. She would do that even though charges would drop.

She had a gay cashier taken away for giving a 50% discount on a $30 map/booklet. The maps were discounted 30%-50% depending and our store got busy and he was confused.

The poor guy. The store really doesnt lose much..the employees do.
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The only question is, did the thief steal the stores profit or not when he walked out of the store? This profit never existed, it was potential profit. A significantly large part of the original 100 dollars was profit, in fact, but the store had already realized those profits.

This is NOT "does a thief steal from a thief when he steals from him" problem, this is a logical calculation of the stores actual LOSSES. 30 dollars cash + 70 dollars RETAIL PRICE of the goods the thief bought and walked out of the store with minus the amount the store would have made in profit off of those 70 dollars retail prices
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Losses include the market value of the store's products. When the thief stole them, he didn't just steal their cost to stock the products but he stole the profits they would have made.

Supply and demand, Laissez-Fair of the market. No criminal or "average Joe" gets to walk into a shop and demand the product at cost the shop paid for it. You want milk or eggs? Then buy some land and grown your own cows and chickens, if you feel it's unfair to pay the shop owner any profit.
 Quoting: Ginseng


You CANNOT steal unrealized profits
PERIOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


That's bullshit. If you take something that doesn't belong to you, you have no say as to how much it was worth. You don't know. And if you're just a loser scumbag who has to steal because you can't get by, just go to a fucking food bank. It's free. If you're stealing luxury items, then you're a double scumbag.

You don't get to decide what the value is of my product. The market decides.
 Quoting: Ginseng


The "free" market?

cruise

You fucking retard, if it were truly a free market you wouldn't be paying some asshole that didn't produce anything his "cut" on it.

The reason this is so critical for us to understand is we are not only the buyers of these goods, we produce them as well. They pay us less that they make off of our labor because they want to have swimming polls and yachts on OUR dime
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Zero.



The store had insurance
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Translation: muh head hurtsez tryin to do simple maf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14267443


Actually I gave the only correct answer because I realize unrealized profits cannot be stolen.


I explained my reasoning succinctly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


"Unrealized profit" becomes "Realized" once it's stolen, doesn't it, LOL
 Quoting: Ginseng


Why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Because there is no longer any potential. The theft is similar to a sale, and the sale ended up being a loss rather than a profit.

I get that profit is "potential", but there are many factors that one can use to predict and comfortably rely on. You're just trying to encourage theft and you sound like a butthurt commie who can't make it.
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2.4% = OTHER = CORRECT

The store claimed on their insurance you dick brains the store lost nothing at all it actually gained - It sold produce and got robbed it is actually making money.

Stupid Humans
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Hey moron. Op said the store is selling AT COST.

-10 to your IQ

Oh sorry. you don't understand numbers.

I'll rephrase and a way you will understand.

U mor stupider now.
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The only real question is can you steal something form a thief that hasn't been stolen itself yet.

PROFIT = THEFT



You can call it what you ant to if it makes you feel better about being ripped off
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So you're an anti-capitalist troll too.

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Zero.



The store had insurance
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Good answer!
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Actually I gave the only correct answer because I realize unrealized profits cannot be stolen.


I explained my reasoning succinctly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


"Unrealized profit" becomes "Realized" once it's stolen, doesn't it, LOL
 Quoting: Ginseng


Why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Because there is no longer any potential. The theft is similar to a sale, and the sale ended up being a loss rather than a profit.

I get that profit is "potential", but there are many factors that one can use to predict and comfortably rely on. You're just trying to encourage theft and you sound like a butthurt commie who can't make it.
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No 'maam. I am NOT "trying to encourage theft", I was asked to calculate a stores losses, and I did so accurately and explained myself
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Losses include the market value of the store's products. When the thief stole them, he didn't just steal their cost to stock the products but he stole the profits they would have made.

Supply and demand, Laissez-Fair of the market. No criminal or "average Joe" gets to walk into a shop and demand the product at cost the shop paid for it. You want milk or eggs? Then buy some land and grown your own cows and chickens, if you feel it's unfair to pay the shop owner any profit.
 Quoting: Ginseng


You CANNOT steal unrealized profits
PERIOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


That's bullshit. If you take something that doesn't belong to you, you have no say as to how much it was worth. You don't know. And if you're just a loser scumbag who has to steal because you can't get by, just go to a fucking food bank. It's free. If you're stealing luxury items, then you're a double scumbag.

You don't get to decide what the value is of my product. The market decides.
 Quoting: Ginseng


The "free" market?

cruise

You fucking retard, if it were truly a free market you wouldn't be paying some asshole that didn't produce anything his "cut" on it.

The reason this is so critical for us to understand is we are not only the buyers of these goods, we produce them as well. They pay us less that they make off of our labor because they want to have swimming polls and yachts on OUR dime
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Common sense ain't common when you are a communist.

Keep pushing nonsense at your own peril.
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The only real question is can you steal something form a thief that hasn't been stolen itself yet.

PROFIT = THEFT



You can call it what you ant to if it makes you feel better about being ripped off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Then given your philosophy, are you self sustaining and providing everything for yourself and family?

Are you managing cattle, chickens, vegetable gardens and everything (including EXPENSE) that goes into that?

Are you making your clothes out of foxes you slaughter? Are you collecting rain water to drink?

Communism is a failed system and it has been proven time and time again.

The person you go buy your "stuff" from has a lot of other costs that you're too young and stupid to understand. And if you don't like it, do it yourself.
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The only real question is can you steal something form a thief that hasn't been stolen itself yet.

PROFIT = THEFT



You can call it what you ant to if it makes you feel better about being ripped off
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So you're an anti-capitalist troll too.

:chicomtroll:
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


I am anti-capitalist because capitalism has created all the worlds current problems, and it provides for and enables a parasitic "upper crust" most of us revile.
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No way to determine without knowing the actual store costs of the goods.
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For the purpose of this poll, profit margins are not taken into consideration.
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You poll has insufficient data then and is invalid.
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The only real question is can you steal something form a thief that hasn't been stolen itself yet.

PROFIT = THEFT



You can call it what you ant to if it makes you feel better about being ripped off
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So you're an anti-capitalist troll too.

:chicomtroll:
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


I am anti-capitalist because capitalism has created all the worlds current problems, and it provides for and enables a parasitic "upper crust" most of us revile.
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That is communism you dumb simp. He mocks you in the book and tells you as much.
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The only real question is can you steal something form a thief that hasn't been stolen itself yet.

PROFIT = THEFT



You can call it what you ant to if it makes you feel better about being ripped off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Then given your philosophy, are you self sustaining and providing everything for yourself and family?

Are you managing cattle, chickens, vegetable gardens and everything (including EXPENSE) that goes into that?

Are you making your clothes out of foxes you slaughter? Are you collecting rain water to drink?

Communism is a failed system and it has been proven time and time again.

The person you go buy your "stuff" from has a lot of other costs that you're too young and stupid to understand. And if you don't like it, do it yourself.
 Quoting: Ginseng


I am not a "communist" ,but you do have shit for brains.

Profit is a form of taxation on the people who do all of the work
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Re: POLL: MAN STEALS $100 FROM a STORE'S REGISTER. THEN HE BUYS $70 OF GOODS FROM THAT STORE & GETS $30 CHANGE. HOW MUCH DID THE STORE LOSE?
The store lost $30 plus the real cost of the goods, which is not known. If the real cost of the goods is assumed at $70, then the store lost $100.
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The only real question is can you steal something form a thief that hasn't been stolen itself yet.

PROFIT = THEFT



You can call it what you ant to if it makes you feel better about being ripped off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


So you're an anti-capitalist troll too.

:chicomtroll:
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


I am anti-capitalist because capitalism has created all the worlds current problems, and it provides for and enables a parasitic "upper crust" most of us revile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


That is communism you dumb simp. He mocks you in the book and tells you as much.
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Reviling a parasitic "upper crust" is "communism"?

I see

There is another "ism" you know, one that isn't capitalist or communist.
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The store lost $30 plus the real cost of the goods, which is not known. If the real cost of the goods is assumed at $70, then the store lost $100.
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CORRECT
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POLL: A MAN STEALS $100 FROM A STORE'S REGISTER. THEN HE BUYS $70 WORTH OF GOODS FROM THAT STORE & GETS $30 CHANGE. HOW MUCH DID THE STORE LOSE?

For the purpose of this poll, profit margins and other side / fringe related expenses are not taken into consideration.

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 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


The guy walked out of the store with $70 worth of product and $30 cash that he didn't walk in with. So the store got hit for $100.
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The only real question is can you steal something form a thief that hasn't been stolen itself yet.

PROFIT = THEFT



You can call it what you ant to if it makes you feel better about being ripped off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171


Then given your philosophy, are you self sustaining and providing everything for yourself and family?

Are you managing cattle, chickens, vegetable gardens and everything (including EXPENSE) that goes into that?

Are you making your clothes out of foxes you slaughter? Are you collecting rain water to drink?

Communism is a failed system and it has been proven time and time again.

The person you go buy your "stuff" from has a lot of other costs that you're too young and stupid to understand. And if you don't like it, do it yourself.
 Quoting: Ginseng


I am not a "communist" ,but you do have shit for brains.

Profit is a form of taxation on the people who do all of the work
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So, you are not self sustaining and have no idea about the expense that would take.

You expect "shops" to provide for all your needs and you want it at the cost the shop pays, LOL. As if they don't have families of their own to take care of.

Wow, you are such a tard, LOL. Young, I assume.
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Re: POLL: MAN STEALS $100 FROM a STORE'S REGISTER. THEN HE BUYS $70 OF GOODS FROM THAT STORE & GETS $30 CHANGE. HOW MUCH DID THE STORE LOSE?
The store lost in cash $100 + $30 change = $130 but also lost goods for a market value of $70, so in total lost $200

The real loss will be $130 + the net cost of the goods, which is unknown.





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