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Woman Who Was Raped But Refused Abortion: “Babies are Babies No Matter How They’re Conceived

 
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You're an old guy, I've been a woman for 50 years...YES, women of my generation use abortion as birth control because they have no moral backbone, they're lazy and like to fuck indiscriminately and also drink and drug out. If they become impregnated, many have been told that it's "just a clump of cells" so they have no problem aborting.
 Quoting: Ginseng


If that's the case then birth control should be avaliable to everyone without exception. Of course many anti abortion people are against birth control too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


So your position is that you advocate for people having indiscriminate sex because it feels good and they shouldn't worry about the consequences?

And it's the government's responsibility to put the women on hormones so they can be fucked over and over again by different men who don't give a shit about them and certainly don't want to have babies?

What kind of society is that? A sick one.
 Quoting: Ginseng


Bottom line is if birth control was readily available to all women there would be few abortions. So which is better?
 Quoting: NDFarm


Birth control is readily available to any woman who wants it.
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My my my. So many rapes going on in abortion world today.
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Less than 1% of abortions are reported as a result of rape.
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and what happens to the woman who was violated and did not want the child of a rapist in her and did not ask for it and now has an 18 year burden to take care of a child that was forced into her and every time she sees it she is reminded of how she was raped and her life was forever changed against her will?

amazing how the unborn child of a rapist has more rights to you then the woman being raped

so if your wife or daughter or sister was raped, you'd of course want them to birth it right? And go through all the burdens of medical bills and physical pain and 9 months of their life being forever altered because a rapist criminal broke into their womb against their will
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


Wow, so self centered.

You are the adult. You protect the child. And that might mean giving it up for adoption if the circumstances disturb you.
 Quoting: Ginseng


self centered, as I defend the right of a victim of rape...

and what do you think fo a person who wants to have sex with a woman against her will... sounds, i dunno, totally self centered huh... to only think about yourself and force yourself on a woman who does not want you to

so an adult who was raped has to protect a child that was forced into them by a self centered rapist?

and who pays for the the wooman to carry the child to term? How about when she needs to take time of work to give birth and recover, who covers her loss of income... since you are not self centered and all, who helps the victim of the rape and unwanted crime against her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


Women in the last 50 years, especially, have been indoctrinated to be totally self centered and separated from their natural inclination.

You protect the child, period. Your "situation" doesn't matter...you are a parent now.

If you were so a slutty drunkard that slept with everyone in the bar and ended up pregnant...you now have an obligation. And if you feel that the guy raped you, even though you yourself took several shots and was blackout drunk...that's on you.

There is no reason to kill the child, who is innocent. If you can't handle it, give it up for adoption.

Most "rapes" are "date rapes". It is a fairly recent phenomenon...it's when the girl gets drunk as shit and the dude she hooked up with at the bar fucks her.

I'm not really sympathetic. I think you need to do better, as women. (And I'm also a woman).
 Quoting: Ginseng


most rapes are date rapes... i thought you said they were the result of drunken gang bangs

please provide the data stating most rapes are date rapes or drunken gang bangs

and since when is getting drunk and being fucked a recent phenomenon? People been getting drunk and fucking for millennia
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It seems like "adults" never grow up these days. They remain self centered children, regardless of age.
 Quoting: Ginseng


if i forced you to have to pay $14,000 - 20,000 and altered your body for a year and you had to miss work and lose income and you never asked for any of that, you would of course just be a grown up adult and deal with it right

you'd be fine with that right... i if fucked up your body and finances and career and life and you did not want me to

you are a grown up right, so you'd of course accept me literally and figuratively fucking your life up and costing you tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills and stealing a year of your life from you right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


Shut up kid.

Don't fuck if you can't afford it.
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The child has a right to be in a loving home, either with the birth family or an adoptive home.
 Quoting: tiger1


and what right does the woman who was raped have? to not want the financial and medical burden to go through the 9 months plus 3 month recovery after cariing a child she never asked for?

who pays for her medical bills and all the things she has to go through carrying a child that she did not ask for that was forced into her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


The innocent child has a right to life ! As for medical and financial concerns, there are organizations and individuals to help women in these situations.
 Quoting: tiger1


and what right does the woman have to not have to carry a child forced into her?

and where are these medical and financial organizations and individuals that cover all the costs and loss of income for women who carry the babies of criminal rapists?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


Look up the yellow pages for Abortion alternative organizations. In my area, Right To Life has a free clinic, and referrals to other organizations that help with financial support, housing, food, etc.
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Why give the death penalty to an innocent child, for the crime of the biological father? Punish the rapist, not the child !

IF a rape victim gets treated at the ER after a rape, the chances of pregnancy are minuscule. Even without treatment, the chance of a rape victim getting pregnant after an assault is very low. The biggest concern is definitely disease. She needs medical care no matter what, because of injuries and disease.
 Quoting: tiger1


They will get the morning after pill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81680631


They can get a medicine to start their periods.
 Quoting: tiger1


Yes, it can "kick out" the embryo if newly attached or stop fertilized egg from attaching.
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If that's the case then birth control should be avaliable to everyone without exception. Of course many anti abortion people are against birth control too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


So your position is that you advocate for people having indiscriminate sex because it feels good and they shouldn't worry about the consequences?

And it's the government's responsibility to put the women on hormones so they can be fucked over and over again by different men who don't give a shit about them and certainly don't want to have babies?

What kind of society is that? A sick one.
 Quoting: Ginseng


Bottom line is if birth control was readily available to all women there would be few abortions. So which is better?
 Quoting: NDFarm


Birth control is readily available to any woman who wants it.
 Quoting: tiger1


and rape is available to any man who wants it

what about for the woman who don't want to be raped and have to be impregnated by violent criminals.. what is available to them, besides having the seed of a criminal rapist forced into them against their will?
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My my my. So many rapes going on in abortion world today.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Less than 1% of abortions are reported as a result of rape.
 Quoting: tiger1


Yep.

Some even say that Mary was raped by a Roman soldier. Their solution would have been to kill the child before birth. But then, anyone who would murder an innocent baby over a crime committed by a man probably isn't a believer anyway.
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and what right does the woman who was raped have? to not want the financial and medical burden to go through the 9 months plus 3 month recovery after cariing a child she never asked for?

who pays for her medical bills and all the things she has to go through carrying a child that she did not ask for that was forced into her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


The innocent child has a right to life ! As for medical and financial concerns, there are organizations and individuals to help women in these situations.
 Quoting: tiger1


and what right does the woman have to not have to carry a child forced into her?

and where are these medical and financial organizations and individuals that cover all the costs and loss of income for women who carry the babies of criminal rapists?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


Look up the yellow pages for Abortion alternative organizations. In my area, Right To Life has a free clinic, and referrals to other organizations that help with financial support, housing, food, etc.
 Quoting: tiger1


so you cannot cite any links show where these organizations state they will cover ALL financial costs and damages incurred from carrying a rape baby to term

got it
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Put the criminal to death, not the innocent child.
 Quoting: tiger1


and what happens to the woman who was violated and did not want the child of a rapist in her and did not ask for it and now has an 18 year burden to take care of a child that was forced into her and every time she sees it she is reminded of how she was raped and her life was forever changed against her will?

amazing how the unborn child of a rapist has more rights to you then the woman being raped

so if your wife or daughter or sister was raped, you'd of course want them to birth it right? And go through all the burdens of medical bills and physical pain and 9 months of their life being forever altered because a rapist criminal broke into their womb against their will
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


What crime did the innocent child commit? Is being alive a crime?
 Quoting: tiger1


what crime did the woman commit? why must she be punished with rape, financial burdens and physical burdens and societal burdens because a rapist can't control themselves?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


What crime did the child commit? Why should the innocent child be given the death penalty?
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It seems like "adults" never grow up these days. They remain self centered children, regardless of age.
 Quoting: Ginseng


if i forced you to have to pay $14,000 - 20,000 and altered your body for a year and you had to miss work and lose income and you never asked for any of that, you would of course just be a grown up adult and deal with it right

you'd be fine with that right... i if fucked up your body and finances and career and life and you did not want me to

you are a grown up right, so you'd of course accept me literally and figuratively fucking your life up and costing you tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills and stealing a year of your life from you right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


Shut up kid.

Don't fuck if you can't afford it.
 Quoting: Ginseng


again you show you have a juvenile mentally retarded understanding of rape and sex amongst adults

show us on the doll where the people at the bar hurt you
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You cannot change the minds of those who would shed innocent blood for their own lust. Don't try to save them. They're already dead.
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What crime did the child commit, to receive the death penalty?
 Quoting: tiger1


what crime did the woman commit, and why must she be punished with not only being raped but having to pay for 9 months of the pregnancy forced on her by a criminal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


no one said the raped women HAS to raise the child.

Put the child up for adoption !

Give the innocent child a chance !

Half of that baby IS YOU !

Kill it... and a part of you dies, too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81451989


why does she have to pay for the 9 months to carry a child she did not ask to have?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


There is support out there for pregnant women.
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You're an old guy, I've been a woman for 50 years...YES, women of my generation use abortion as birth control because they have no moral backbone, they're lazy and like to fuck indiscriminately and also drink and drug out. If they become impregnated, many have been told that it's "just a clump of cells" so they have no problem aborting.
 Quoting: Ginseng


If that's the case then birth control should be avaliable to everyone without exception. Of course many anti abortion people are against birth control too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


So your position is that you advocate for people having indiscriminate sex because it feels good and they shouldn't worry about the consequences?

And it's the government's responsibility to put the women on hormones so they can be fucked over and over again by different men who don't give a shit about them and certainly don't want to have babies?

What kind of society is that? A sick one.
 Quoting: Ginseng


Bottom line is if birth control was readily available to all women there would be few abortions. So which is better?
 Quoting: NDFarm


What is the problem with birth control?

I was a "latch key" kid in the 80's and I got my own birth control at age 15 in southern California. It wasn't hard.
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That's great. But not all women share the same opinion.
 Quoting: Captain Cosmos


Exactly.

I mean if I put myself in that women's shoes (which sorry, I'd abort) I would have to consider the fact that at some point while child grows up, could I trust myself to not get triggered by who knows what, a memory, anything and if so, would I start to resent the child and subconciouslu treat or love it less than I should

What if it's a boy and starts to resemble my rapist and I see his face everything I look at my child, ugg, that would S U C K

what if OUR child has potential DNA that some how wasprone to being raped?

Would I tell the child the truth later in life or lie until I dead about some fantasy guy that was their dad?

Just saying.... FUCK ALL THAT


 Quoting: ChickenLilLips


You are caught either way !!

Being a rape baby, i have spoken with many women who have aborted.

Their child, if it had lived, would be... say 6 years old?

EVERY six year old they see, reminds them of their aborted baby !

"that could MY six year old playing there" !


This is especially true if they had a sonogram, and knew the sex of the child.
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and what happens to the woman who was violated and did not want the child of a rapist in her and did not ask for it and now has an 18 year burden to take care of a child that was forced into her and every time she sees it she is reminded of how she was raped and her life was forever changed against her will?

amazing how the unborn child of a rapist has more rights to you then the woman being raped

so if your wife or daughter or sister was raped, you'd of course want them to birth it right? And go through all the burdens of medical bills and physical pain and 9 months of their life being forever altered because a rapist criminal broke into their womb against their will
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


What crime did the innocent child commit? Is being alive a crime?
 Quoting: tiger1


what crime did the woman commit? why must she be punished with rape, financial burdens and physical burdens and societal burdens because a rapist can't control themselves?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


What crime did the child commit? Why should the innocent child be given the death penalty?
 Quoting: tiger1


I already answered you, none

yet you refuse to answer what crime the woman committed

why should an innocent woman be violently raped and then be forced to carry her rapist's baby to term? what crime did she commit to deserve that punishment?

the first crime that starts all this is the rape... so start there, what crime did the woman commit to deserve to be assaulted and violated against her will?
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If that's the case then birth control should be avaliable to everyone without exception. Of course many anti abortion people are against birth control too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


So your position is that you advocate for people having indiscriminate sex because it feels good and they shouldn't worry about the consequences?

And it's the government's responsibility to put the women on hormones so they can be fucked over and over again by different men who don't give a shit about them and certainly don't want to have babies?

What kind of society is that? A sick one.
 Quoting: Ginseng


Bottom line is if birth control was readily available to all women there would be few abortions. So which is better?
 Quoting: NDFarm


What is the problem with birth control?

I was a "latch key" kid in the 80's and I got my own birth control at age 15 in southern California. It wasn't hard.
 Quoting: Ginseng


what is the problem with rape... oh right the violating a woman against their will cause you are a self centered adult who wants sex even though a woman says no
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What crime did the child commit, to receive the death penalty?
 Quoting: tiger1


what crime did the woman commit, and why must she be punished with not only being raped but having to pay for 9 months of the pregnancy forced on her by a criminal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


Punish the criminal. There is support available for pregnant women, and adoption is a loving option.
 Quoting: tiger1


the law does punish the criminal

the rapist punished the woman and ruined her life... what did crime did she commit?

and please provide links to the organizations offering full financial support for women of rapes and covering them having to go on maternity leave and lose their job to carry the baby of a criminal
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


Here is just one of several in my area. If you want to find one in your area, google it.

[link to lakeloveslife.org (secure)]
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If that's the case then birth control should be avaliable to everyone without exception. Of course many anti abortion people are against birth control too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


So your position is that you advocate for people having indiscriminate sex because it feels good and they shouldn't worry about the consequences?

And it's the government's responsibility to put the women on hormones so they can be fucked over and over again by different men who don't give a shit about them and certainly don't want to have babies?

What kind of society is that? A sick one.
 Quoting: Ginseng


Bottom line is if birth control was readily available to all women there would be few abortions. So which is better?
 Quoting: NDFarm


Birth control is readily available to any woman who wants it.
 Quoting: tiger1


Some women don't have the money.
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no one said the raped women HAS to raise the child.

Put the child up for adoption !

Give the innocent child a chance !

Half of that baby IS YOU !

Kill it... and a part of you dies, too
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why does she have to pay for the 9 months to carry a child she did not ask to have?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


Because REAL LOVE means putting anothers needs before your own !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81451989


and RAPE means putting your need before those of innocent bystanders
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including your innocent baby !
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what crime did the woman commit, and why must she be punished with not only being raped but having to pay for 9 months of the pregnancy forced on her by a criminal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


no one said the raped women HAS to raise the child.

Put the child up for adoption !

Give the innocent child a chance !

Half of that baby IS YOU !

Kill it... and a part of you dies, too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81451989


why does she have to pay for the 9 months to carry a child she did not ask to have?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


There is support out there for pregnant women.
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yeah, no shit, for women who wanted to get pregnant and start a family... and even then no organization agrees to fully pay all the medical and financial costs incurred for 12 months it takes to carry a baby to term and recover

what support is there for women who did not want a criminal to force a baby into them

please provide the links to these organizations you claim fully take care of the life and finances of women who are raped and keep the baby
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Wow, so self centered.

You are the adult. You protect the child. And that might mean giving it up for adoption if the circumstances disturb you.
 Quoting: Ginseng


self centered, as I defend the right of a victim of rape...

and what do you think fo a person who wants to have sex with a woman against her will... sounds, i dunno, totally self centered huh... to only think about yourself and force yourself on a woman who does not want you to

so an adult who was raped has to protect a child that was forced into them by a self centered rapist?

and who pays for the the wooman to carry the child to term? How about when she needs to take time of work to give birth and recover, who covers her loss of income... since you are not self centered and all, who helps the victim of the rape and unwanted crime against her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


They are many organizations who will help her through this, financially, medically, and with whatever else she needs.
 Quoting: tiger1


and yet you cannot link to any that state they will cover the entire cost of a rape victim's pregnancy and the possible loss of her job / career

I musta missed that part of health insurance options
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


If she cannot work, there is a network of people who will take her in, and support her all the way.
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I can't think of any maternal medical reasons to kill the baby.

Terminate a pregnancy, yes, like in eclampsia and pre-eclampsia.

terminating a pregnancy in that case means early delivery, which is NOT murdering it.
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Heart issues, cancer, and many other related ones where the pregnancy even getting to preemie stage, ie 20 weeks would be life endangering. And in fact if you wait long to terminate when there is a potential soul coming in to the body suit it doesn't live in yet, in the first trimester, remember entering at the end of the pregnancy. The first trimester is not a chain saw massacre and I've always been full pro choice until that stage is done. Soul isn't your body suit. Body suits are little miracles if the mother is old enough to have a child, isn't a victim of rape or incest, and isn't in danger.
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The soul is present at conception, as are all other blueprints of humanity.

Pregnancy is safe for almost all women with pre-existing conditions like those you name. A C-section may be preferable as the type of delivery.

Even a high-risk pregnancy is far safer than a jab at any stage of a woman's life.

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why does she have to pay for the 9 months to carry a child she did not ask to have?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


Because REAL LOVE means putting anothers needs before your own !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81451989


and RAPE means putting your need before those of innocent bystanders
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85154091


including your innocent baby !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81451989


the innocent baby started in the balls of the criminal who assaults an innocent woman

why is the woman's being assaulted not innocent?
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Please allow me to make this point -

This abortion thing is not about rape. Rape does happen and it's terrible when it does, but is not the driver of all these women wanting to have abortions.

Women have abortions MOSTLY because they live in a society which tells them it's ok to go out and get shit faced and fuck everybody. Sorry for the crudeness, but that's basically it.

Young women have been driven into corporate careers instead of motherhood, and at the same time, they are encouraged to "party" which means drinks and drugs, and fucking everything in sight.

So let me ask you this....if your women value THAT, as opposed to other behaviors...do we have a good society?
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Re: Woman Who Was Raped But Refused Abortion: “Babies are Babies No Matter How They’re Conceived
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self centered, as I defend the right of a victim of rape...

and what do you think fo a person who wants to have sex with a woman against her will... sounds, i dunno, totally self centered huh... to only think about yourself and force yourself on a woman who does not want you to

so an adult who was raped has to protect a child that was forced into them by a self centered rapist?

and who pays for the the wooman to carry the child to term? How about when she needs to take time of work to give birth and recover, who covers her loss of income... since you are not self centered and all, who helps the victim of the rape and unwanted crime against her?
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They are many organizations who will help her through this, financially, medically, and with whatever else she needs.
 Quoting: tiger1


and yet you cannot link to any that state they will cover the entire cost of a rape victim's pregnancy and the possible loss of her job / career

I musta missed that part of health insurance options
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If she cannot work, there is a network of people who will take her in, and support her all the way.
 Quoting: tiger1


you continue to claim this, but cannot link to this network

if it's so easily available, it should be easy for you to link to it
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Re: Woman Who Was Raped But Refused Abortion: “Babies are Babies No Matter How They’re Conceived
Please allow me to make this point -

This abortion thing is not about rape. Rape does happen and it's terrible when it does, but is not the driver of all these women wanting to have abortions.

Women have abortions MOSTLY because they live in a society which tells them it's ok to go out and get shit faced and fuck everybody. Sorry for the crudeness, but that's basically it.

Young women have been driven into corporate careers instead of motherhood, and at the same time, they are encouraged to "party" which means drinks and drugs, and fucking everything in sight.

So let me ask you this....if your women value THAT, as opposed to other behaviors...do we have a good society?
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rape does happen... but but but you said all rapes are just drunk women at gang bangs.

and what value do you think being a rapist brings to a good society?
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I can't think of any maternal medical reasons to kill the baby.

Terminate a pregnancy, yes, like in eclampsia and pre-eclampsia.

terminating a pregnancy in that case means early delivery, which is NOT murdering it.
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Heart issues, cancer, and many other related ones where the pregnancy even getting to preemie stage, ie 20 weeks would be life endangering. And in fact if you wait long to terminate when there is a potential soul coming in to the body suit it doesn't live in yet, in the first trimester, remember entering at the end of the pregnancy. The first trimester is not a chain saw massacre and I've always been full pro choice until that stage is done. Soul isn't your body suit. Body suits are little miracles if the mother is old enough to have a child, isn't a victim of rape or incest, and isn't in danger.
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The soul is present at conception, as are all other blueprints of humanity.

Pregnancy is safe for almost all women with pre-existing conditions like those you name. A C-section may be preferable as the type of delivery.

Even a high-risk pregnancy is far safer than a jab at any stage of a woman's life.

let that sink in.
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let that sink in... is what the rapist says when he cums in an innocent woman
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Because REAL LOVE means putting anothers needs before your own !
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and RAPE means putting your need before those of innocent bystanders
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including your innocent baby !
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the innocent baby started in the balls of the criminal who assaults an innocent woman

why is the woman's being assaulted not innocent?
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didn't say she / it was...

but you keep squirming...

You defend your position with the passion of a woman who has had AT LEAST one abortion.
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and what happens to the woman who was violated and did not want the child of a rapist in her and did not ask for it and now has an 18 year burden to take care of a child that was forced into her and every time she sees it she is reminded of how she was raped and her life was forever changed against her will?

amazing how the unborn child of a rapist has more rights to you then the woman being raped

so if your wife or daughter or sister was raped, you'd of course want them to birth it right? And go through all the burdens of medical bills and physical pain and 9 months of their life being forever altered because a rapist criminal broke into their womb against their will
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Wow, so self centered.

You are the adult. You protect the child. And that might mean giving it up for adoption if the circumstances disturb you.
 Quoting: Ginseng


self centered, as I defend the right of a victim of rape...

and what do you think fo a person who wants to have sex with a woman against her will... sounds, i dunno, totally self centered huh... to only think about yourself and force yourself on a woman who does not want you to

so an adult who was raped has to protect a child that was forced into them by a self centered rapist?

and who pays for the the wooman to carry the child to term? How about when she needs to take time of work to give birth and recover, who covers her loss of income... since you are not self centered and all, who helps the victim of the rape and unwanted crime against her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


Women in the last 50 years, especially, have been indoctrinated to be totally self centered and separated from their natural inclination.

You protect the child, period. Your "situation" doesn't matter...you are a parent now.

If you were so a slutty drunkard that slept with everyone in the bar and ended up pregnant...you now have an obligation. And if you feel that the guy raped you, even though you yourself took several shots and was blackout drunk...that's on you.

There is no reason to kill the child, who is innocent. If you can't handle it, give it up for adoption.

Most "rapes" are "date rapes". It is a fairly recent phenomenon...it's when the girl gets drunk as shit and the dude she hooked up with at the bar fucks her.

I'm not really sympathetic. I think you need to do better, as women. (And I'm also a woman).
 Quoting: Ginseng


WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

"If you were so a slutty drunkard that slept with everyone in the bar and ended up pregnant... ****YOU TALKING ABOUT A HUMAN OR FUKN CAT?****

you now have an obligation. ***TO ABORT LOL***

And if you feel that the guy raped you,
****YA KNOW, ALL YOU SLUTTY BAR WHORES, NEXT DAY YOU SIT UP IN BED HUNGOVER AND PONDER THAT THOUGHT IF YOU F E E L HE RAPED YOU****

even though you yourself took several shots and was blackout drunk...
****SLUTTY DRUNK WHORES GET DOSED WITH GHB I THEIR DRINKS AS MUCH AS THE VIRGINS ATTHE BAR NOT TAKING SHOTS****


that's on you"
****JUST SAYING LADIES BE CAREFUL OUT THERE, GET DRUNK, GET RAPED AND AS THIS POSTER SAYS... ITS ALL ON YOU SAYS THIS PRO RAPIST****

YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME RIGHT?


WHAT IN THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

FYI DONT COME OFF AS SOMEONE WHO THINKS THAT A WOMEN WHO DRANK SHOTS AT A BAR DESERVES TO BE RAPED

ITS NOT A GOOD LOOK (UNLESS YOU'RE PRO-RAPE
YOU IGNORANT FUCK

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