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Woman Who Was Raped But Refused Abortion: “Babies are Babies No Matter How They’re Conceived

 
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I'm sure this will not be a popular opinion, but "women" really need to take a little more responsibility and keep their legs together, and rein in the irresponsible substance abuse.

I'm not excusing the men either, but the fact is, women are the gatekeepers of reproduction. It is up to them if you get to stick your dick in them or not (except in cases or violent rape, which should be addressed separately from "partying").
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so all women who are raped are drunks and drug addicts?
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alcohol and drugs play a role in the majority of crimes. Is rape a logical exception?

No.
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Finally a women who gets it and sounds logical.

All you pro abortion freaks can go run in front of a train.
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that woman got it... she didn't want it though.... that's how rape works
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I'm sure this will not be a popular opinion, but "women" really need to take a little more responsibility and keep their legs together, and rein in the irresponsible substance abuse.

I'm not excusing the men either, but the fact is, women are the gatekeepers of reproduction. It is up to them if you get to stick your dick in them or not (except in cases or violent rape, which should be addressed separately from "partying").
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so all women who are raped are drunks and drug addicts?
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alcohol and drugs play a role in the majority of crimes. Is rape a logical exception?

No.
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uuum the people being raped are not committing a crime...... the rapist is

do you know how rape works?
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this topic makes liberals froth at the muzzle
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Why give the death penalty to an innocent child, for the crime of the biological father? Punish the rapist, not the child !

IF a rape victim gets treated at the ER after a rape, the chances of pregnancy are minuscule. Even without treatment, the chance of a rape victim getting pregnant after an assault is very low. The biggest concern is definitely disease. She needs medical care no matter what, because of injuries and disease.
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They will get the morning after pill.
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They can get a medicine to start their periods.
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this topic makes liberals froth at the muzzle
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you know what makes rapists froth at the mouth... raping women
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this topic makes liberals froth at the muzzle
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so if a crack addict methhead mexican black muslim raped you, you'd of course keep the baby right
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My daughter's boyfriend of 4 years was the product of a rape around age 22. Mom was clunked on the head from behind and knocked out for hours. She knew she was raped when she regained consciousness because her clothes were next to her, and then she went to the hospital.

She was going to put him up for adoption but when he was born, well, just so cute. Her family was supportive and she kept him. He's an electrical safety inspector now and nice guy. Mom said she has zero memory of the actual event so no traumatic memories at all, which is nice.

My daughter was born to an Eastern European gal who had an affair with a married guy. We heard she was about 15. It is unthinkable to me that people would have wanted my beautiful girl to have been murdered before birth.

No child deserves to die because their father commits a crime.
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I'm sure this will not be a popular opinion, but "women" really need to take a little more responsibility and keep their legs together, and rein in the irresponsible substance abuse.

I'm not excusing the men either, but the fact is, women are the gatekeepers of reproduction. It is up to them if you get to stick your dick in them or not (except in cases or violent rape, which should be addressed separately from "partying").
 Quoting: Ginseng


so all women who are raped are drunks and drug addicts?
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I didn't say that.

I know that there are legitimate, violent rapes against vulnerable women that couldn't be avoided.

My point is, that MOST of this "I'm pregnant and don't want to be" crap is from party girls who want an easy way out. Because that is where our current society has led us - telling women to forego anything wholesome but embrace partying it up, substance abuse, and indiscriminate fucking.

When you have a society like that, you need a "solution" to the unwanted pregnancies, and the solution is to kill the baby (and kill the mom's soul on some level).

Our society is disgusting. The fact that we even have this problem is disgusting.
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ONE CRIME DOESN'T DESERVE ANOTHER!!!
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I am sure man People have told you there are not many "pro abortion" anyone, just pro compassion.

Men who don't have their body torn apart by birth seem to think they should decide.

But I always see People speaking up for saving every fertile egg, unwilling to take in the unwanted who end up as derelicts on the streets or trafficked to brothels and drugs, unloved unwanted.
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One of my children is adopted. My cousin adopted, my grandmother adopted, several of my friends adopted. Their is a loving home for every child, if they are given a chance at life. BTW, I was a foster parent, my grandmother was too, and several of my friends.
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that is what the rapist thought "there's a loving home for my child... inside that women over there who does not want my child"
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A rapist is not doing the crime to procreate. It is an assault.
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And other rape victims might abuse their rapists child and even commit suicide. So that's why the option needs to be there. People need to get off their high horse.
 Quoting: NDFarm


You're ignoring the option to give birth and adopt the child to loving parents.

You're also ignoring that most females use abortion as a form of "birth control". They can't stop fucking and getting pregnant, so they kill the babies.

You're also ignoring the disgusting culture that young women embrace today. In their minds, it is just fine to be totally slutty drunkards. And when they end up pregnant, it's just fine to kill the baby.
 Quoting: Ginseng


There's no guarantee the baby will be adopted by loving parents. There's plenty of horror stories there too. It might happen but Most women don't use abortion for birth control.
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You're an old guy, I've been a woman for 50 years...YES, women of my generation use abortion as birth control because they have no moral backbone, they're lazy and like to fuck indiscriminately and also drink and drug out. If they become impregnated, many have been told that it's "just a clump of cells" so they have no problem aborting.
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If that's the case then birth control should be avaliable to everyone without exception. Of course many anti abortion people are against birth control too.
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My daughter's boyfriend of 4 years was the product of a rape around age 22. Mom was clunked on the head from behind and knocked out for hours. She knew she was raped when she regained consciousness because her clothes were next to her, and then she went to the hospital.

She was going to put him up for adoption but when he was born, well, just so cute. Her family was supportive and she kept him. He's an electrical safety inspector now and nice guy. Mom said she has zero memory of the actual event so no traumatic memories at all, which is nice.

My daughter was born to an Eastern European gal who had an affair with a married guy. We heard she was about 15. It is unthinkable to me that people would have wanted my beautiful girl to have been murdered before birth.

No child deserves to die because their father commits a crime.
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<<<THIS>>>
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the crime is illegally putting a child in a woman who does not want one

why does the woman have to raise a child she did not ask for and was held down and forced to be put inside her?
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My daughter's boyfriend of 4 years was the product of a rape around age 22. Mom was clunked on the head from behind and knocked out for hours. She knew she was raped when she regained consciousness because her clothes were next to her, and then she went to the hospital.

She was going to put him up for adoption but when he was born, well, just so cute. Her family was supportive and she kept him. He's an electrical safety inspector now and nice guy. Mom said she has zero memory of the actual event so no traumatic memories at all, which is nice.

My daughter was born to an Eastern European gal who had an affair with a married guy. We heard she was about 15. It is unthinkable to me that people would have wanted my beautiful girl to have been murdered before birth.

No child deserves to die because their father commits a crime.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


<<<THIS>>>
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no woman deserves to have to raise a child they did not ask for because a criminal wanted to rape her
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You're ignoring the option to give birth and adopt the child to loving parents.

You're also ignoring that most females use abortion as a form of "birth control". They can't stop fucking and getting pregnant, so they kill the babies.

You're also ignoring the disgusting culture that young women embrace today. In their minds, it is just fine to be totally slutty drunkards. And when they end up pregnant, it's just fine to kill the baby.
 Quoting: Ginseng


There's no guarantee the baby will be adopted by loving parents. There's plenty of horror stories there too. It might happen but Most women don't use abortion for birth control.
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You're an old guy, I've been a woman for 50 years...YES, women of my generation use abortion as birth control because they have no moral backbone, they're lazy and like to fuck indiscriminately and also drink and drug out. If they become impregnated, many have been told that it's "just a clump of cells" so they have no problem aborting.
 Quoting: Ginseng


If that's the case then birth control should be avaliable to everyone without exception. Of course many anti abortion people are against birth control too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


Birth control is not murdering an unborn baby. Birth control is available to anyone who wants it.
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the crime is illegally putting a child in a woman who does not want one

why does the woman have to raise a child she did not ask for and was held down and forced to be put inside her?
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What crime did the child commit, to receive the death penalty?
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this topic makes liberals froth at the muzzle
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didn't trump say mexicans rapists flood the border and we need to keep them out?

so if a mexican rapist raped you or your daughter, you would keep the offspring of a mexican rapist?
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My daughter's boyfriend of 4 years was the product of a rape around age 22. Mom was clunked on the head from behind and knocked out for hours. She knew she was raped when she regained consciousness because her clothes were next to her, and then she went to the hospital.

She was going to put him up for adoption but when he was born, well, just so cute. Her family was supportive and she kept him. He's an electrical safety inspector now and nice guy. Mom said she has zero memory of the actual event so no traumatic memories at all, which is nice.

My daughter was born to an Eastern European gal who had an affair with a married guy. We heard she was about 15. It is unthinkable to me that people would have wanted my beautiful girl to have been murdered before birth.

No child deserves to die because their father commits a crime.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


<<<THIS>>>
 Quoting: tiger1



no woman deserves to have to raise a child they did not ask for because a criminal wanted to rape her
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


Put the criminal to death, not the innocent child.
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McClain said she was raped at age 19 by a serial rapist and conceived her daughter. Although the abuse devastated her and abortions were available, McClain chose to raise her daughter on her own.

“She was the life that I needed to move on,” she said. “I’m happy that I was not exploited by the abortion industry and told the lie that I could have a reset button. Her life made the difference for me.”




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Genetics are genetics too ...
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the crime is illegally putting a child in a woman who does not want one

why does the woman have to raise a child she did not ask for and was held down and forced to be put inside her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


What crime did the child commit, to receive the death penalty?
 Quoting: tiger1


none, the rapist committed the crime of rape

so if a man raped your wife, you'd of course raise the child of a rapist right
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McClain said she was raped at age 19 by a serial rapist and conceived her daughter. Although the abuse devastated her and abortions were available, McClain chose to raise her daughter on her own.

“She was the life that I needed to move on,” she said. “I’m happy that I was not exploited by the abortion industry and told the lie that I could have a reset button. Her life made the difference for me.”




:heartholding:
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Genetics are genetics too ...
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the genetics of criminal rapists
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this topic makes liberals froth at the muzzle
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didn't trump say mexicans rapists flood the border and we need to keep them out?

so if a mexican rapist raped you or your daughter, you would keep the offspring of a mexican rapist?
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The child deserves life. The criminal is the one who should be punished. Adoption is the loving option for the innocent child.
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the crime is illegally putting a child in a woman who does not want one

why does the woman have to raise a child she did not ask for and was held down and forced to be put inside her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


What crime did the child commit, to receive the death penalty?
 Quoting: tiger1


none, the rapist committed the crime of rape

so if a man raped your wife, you'd of course raise the child of a rapist right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


The child has a right to be in a loving home, either with the birth family or an adoptive home.
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My daughter's boyfriend of 4 years was the product of a rape around age 22. Mom was clunked on the head from behind and knocked out for hours. She knew she was raped when she regained consciousness because her clothes were next to her, and then she went to the hospital.

She was going to put him up for adoption but when he was born, well, just so cute. Her family was supportive and she kept him. He's an electrical safety inspector now and nice guy. Mom said she has zero memory of the actual event so no traumatic memories at all, which is nice.

My daughter was born to an Eastern European gal who had an affair with a married guy. We heard she was about 15. It is unthinkable to me that people would have wanted my beautiful girl to have been murdered before birth.

No child deserves to die because their father commits a crime.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


<<<THIS>>>
 Quoting: tiger1



no woman deserves to have to raise a child they did not ask for because a criminal wanted to rape her
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


Put the criminal to death, not the innocent child.
 Quoting: tiger1


and what happens to the woman who was violated and did not want the child of a rapist in her and did not ask for it and now has an 18 year burden to take care of a child that was forced into her and every time she sees it she is reminded of how she was raped and her life was forever changed against her will?

amazing how the unborn child of a rapist has more rights to you then the woman being raped

so if your wife or daughter or sister was raped, you'd of course want them to birth it right? And go through all the burdens of medical bills and physical pain and 9 months of their life being forever altered because a rapist criminal broke into their womb against their will
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the crime is illegally putting a child in a woman who does not want one

why does the woman have to raise a child she did not ask for and was held down and forced to be put inside her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


What crime did the child commit, to receive the death penalty?
 Quoting: tiger1


none, the rapist committed the crime of rape

so if a man raped your wife, you'd of course raise the child of a rapist right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


The child has a right to be in a loving home, either with the birth family or an adoptive home.
 Quoting: tiger1


and what right does the woman who was raped have? to not want the financial and medical burden to go through the 9 months plus 3 month recovery after cariing a child she never asked for?

who pays for her medical bills and all the things she has to go through carrying a child that she did not ask for that was forced into her?
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You're ignoring the option to give birth and adopt the child to loving parents.

You're also ignoring that most females use abortion as a form of "birth control". They can't stop fucking and getting pregnant, so they kill the babies.

You're also ignoring the disgusting culture that young women embrace today. In their minds, it is just fine to be totally slutty drunkards. And when they end up pregnant, it's just fine to kill the baby.
 Quoting: Ginseng


There's no guarantee the baby will be adopted by loving parents. There's plenty of horror stories there too. It might happen but Most women don't use abortion for birth control.
 Quoting: NDFarm


You're an old guy, I've been a woman for 50 years...YES, women of my generation use abortion as birth control because they have no moral backbone, they're lazy and like to fuck indiscriminately and also drink and drug out. If they become impregnated, many have been told that it's "just a clump of cells" so they have no problem aborting.
 Quoting: Ginseng


If that's the case then birth control should be avaliable to everyone without exception. Of course many anti abortion people are against birth control too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


So your position is that you advocate for people having indiscriminate sex because it feels good and they shouldn't worry about the consequences?

And it's the government's responsibility to put the women on hormones so they can be fucked over and over again by different men who don't give a shit about them and certainly don't want to have babies?

What kind of society is that? A sick one.
Ginseng
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this topic makes liberals froth at the muzzle
 Quoting: beeches


didn't trump say mexicans rapists flood the border and we need to keep them out?

so if a mexican rapist raped you or your daughter, you would keep the offspring of a mexican rapist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


The child deserves life. The criminal is the one who should be punished. Adoption is the loving option for the innocent child.
 Quoting: tiger1


and the woman raped does not deserve her life before she was raped...when she did not have to carry a child she did not ask for and did not have to pay for all the expenses of being pregnant for 9 months and the cost of child birth?

why is the woman punished twice... once by the rapist, and then a second time by the financial burden of having to carry a baby she did not want to term?
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A woman's selectivity in choosing a mate is supposed to produce a better next generation. When a woman is raped, this selectivity is denied her and her offspring.

Carrying through with raising some SOB's demon spawn is simply wrong. That genetic line needs to die out.
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Wow What a Godless Moronic thing to say.

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Start crossing off the names on my bucket list.
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the crime is illegally putting a child in a woman who does not want one

why does the woman have to raise a child she did not ask for and was held down and forced to be put inside her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85153939


What crime did the child commit, to receive the death penalty?
 Quoting: tiger1


what crime did the woman commit, and why must she be punished with not only being raped but having to pay for 9 months of the pregnancy forced on her by a criminal?





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