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Woman Who Was Raped But Refused Abortion: “Babies are Babies No Matter How They’re Conceived | |
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Eilonwy
 User ID: 85141745  United States01/25/2023 05:32 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think she is a wonderful example that women in this predicament can look towards to make an important decision. That is great, because it is an unusual predicament, and needs great thought. Any person, even a bad one, is not 100% bad. And the baby is also the daughter or son of the mama. No one is 100% good either. “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
| wait....what?
User ID: 83854465 United States01/25/2023 05:43 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.lifenews.com (secure)] Quoting: beeches McClain said she was raped at age 19 by a serial rapist and conceived her daughter. Although the abuse devastated her and abortions were available, McClain chose to raise her daughter on her own. “She was the life that I needed to move on,” she said. “I’m happy that I was not exploited by the abortion industry and told the lie that I could have a reset button. Her life made the difference for me.”   And….  And….   |
| NDFarm
User ID: 74573828 United States01/25/2023 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NDFarm And that's the point anti abortion people won't look at. A fetus early on isn't a baby. It is a human from the instant of conception, before implantation, before birth. maybe being human is not enough to warrant protection, to some. A human fetus obviously. But not a baby yet. the stage matters not And that's just your opinion, nothing else. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84947659 United States01/25/2023 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why give the death penalty to an innocent child, for the crime of the biological father? Punish the rapist, not the child ! Quoting: tiger1 IF a rape victim gets treated at the ER after a rape, the chances of pregnancy are minuscule. Even without treatment, the chance of a rape victim getting pregnant after an assault is very low. The biggest concern is definitely disease. She needs medical care no matter what, because of injuries and disease. What about when it is a seed and not yet a child. And that's the point anti abortion people won't look at. A fetus early on isn't a baby. No and it can't leap in the womb! But it can destroy the body and life of a raped child or someone who should not have a child! I remember reading one case where a 12 year old was raped by dad, she aborted the baby on her own, afraid he would beat and torcher any child just as she was living for all her years. Who ever helps someone like her? Child services! Yeah sure! She risked her own life to keep from bring a baby into that household. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83793264  Ukraine01/25/2023 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The irony is I doubt anyone in the "golden era" old days that most conservatives hark after would have expected a woman to have the baby of a rapist, this is a new fanatical idea. There's no common sense and proportionality any more, both sides of the debate are equally lunatics these days. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84947659 United States01/25/2023 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally a women who gets it and sounds logical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73972319 All you pro abortion freaks can go run in front of a train. ONE CRIME DOESN'T DESERVE ANOTHER!!! I am sure man People have told you there are not many "pro abortion" anyone, just pro compassion. Men who don't have their body torn apart by birth seem to think they should decide. But I always see People speaking up for saving every fertile egg, unwilling to take in the unwanted who end up as derelicts on the streets or trafficked to brothels and drugs, unloved unwanted. |
| Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States01/25/2023 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And other rape victims might abuse their rapists child and even commit suicide. So that's why the option needs to be there. People need to get off their high horse. Quoting: NDFarm You're ignoring the option to give birth and adopt the child to loving parents. You're also ignoring that most females use abortion as a form of "birth control". They can't stop fucking and getting pregnant, so they kill the babies. You're also ignoring the disgusting culture that young women embrace today. In their minds, it is just fine to be totally slutty drunkards. And when they end up pregnant, it's just fine to kill the baby. Last Edited by Ginseng on 01/25/2023 06:19 PM Ginseng |
| Gypo O'Leary
User ID: 84283356  Italy01/25/2023 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A woman's selectivity in choosing a mate is supposed to produce a better next generation. When a woman is raped, this selectivity is denied her and her offspring. Quoting: JustmeTX Carrying through with raising some SOB's demon spawn is simply wrong. That genetic line needs to die out. this isn't really true. going back through history, most people lived in isolated tribal groups and sociologists and anthropologists theorize that the rape of women captured in raids may have worked as an genetic exogenic force, to prevent in-breeding in tribes. Stone Age tribes (like most American Indian groups) routinely raided each other and immediately raped any captured woman. A. Nonymous Coward |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81680631 United States01/25/2023 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why give the death penalty to an innocent child, for the crime of the biological father? Punish the rapist, not the child ! Quoting: tiger1 IF a rape victim gets treated at the ER after a rape, the chances of pregnancy are minuscule. Even without treatment, the chance of a rape victim getting pregnant after an assault is very low. The biggest concern is definitely disease. She needs medical care no matter what, because of injuries and disease. They will get the morning after pill. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81680631 United States01/25/2023 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A woman's selectivity in choosing a mate is supposed to produce a better next generation. When a woman is raped, this selectivity is denied her and her offspring. Quoting: JustmeTX Carrying through with raising some SOB's demon spawn is simply wrong. That genetic line needs to die out. The genetics of a rapist would be the worst. |
| Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States01/25/2023 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leftist fanatical abortion supporters are wrong, but I think fanatical pro-lifers who would force a woman to have even the baby of a rapist are wrong too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83793264 The irony is I doubt anyone in the "golden era" old days that most conservatives hark after would have expected a woman to have the baby of a rapist, this is a new fanatical idea. There's no common sense and proportionality any more, both sides of the debate are equally lunatics these days. I would have the baby, no matter how it was conceived. In younger days I might not have been strong enough to raise it myself, but even back then I realized it was not the fault of the baby. Just give it up for adoption. There are really wonderful parents that want to adopt and provide a loving home. If you kill the baby, there are two victims - the baby and the mother who killed it, and that mother will have to carry that with her her entire life (on some level, most repress it to some degree but it is always there). Ginseng |
| Dave2545
User ID: 83891849 United States01/25/2023 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Philippians 4:8 (King James Version) Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. This woman is a blessing to the child and to us. Dave2545 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81451989 United States01/25/2023 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A woman's selectivity in choosing a mate is supposed to produce a better next generation. When a woman is raped, this selectivity is denied her and her offspring. Quoting: JustmeTX Carrying through with raising some SOB's demon spawn is simply wrong. That genetic line needs to die out. The genetics of a SERIAL rapist would be the worst. fixed it for you.... oh.. and your "casual lady friend" just called. You know that consensual sex you two had last night? well she's changed her mind and decided it was rape. Please report to the hospital immediately... for CASTRATION !! |
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| NDFarm
User ID: 74573828 United States01/25/2023 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And other rape victims might abuse their rapists child and even commit suicide. So that's why the option needs to be there. People need to get off their high horse. Quoting: NDFarm You're ignoring the option to give birth and adopt the child to loving parents. You're also ignoring that most females use abortion as a form of "birth control". They can't stop fucking and getting pregnant, so they kill the babies. You're also ignoring the disgusting culture that young women embrace today. In their minds, it is just fine to be totally slutty drunkards. And when they end up pregnant, it's just fine to kill the baby. There's no guarantee the baby will be adopted by loving parents. There's plenty of horror stories there too. It might happen but Most women don't use abortion for birth control. |
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| Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States01/25/2023 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And other rape victims might abuse their rapists child and even commit suicide. So that's why the option needs to be there. People need to get off their high horse. Quoting: NDFarm You're ignoring the option to give birth and adopt the child to loving parents. You're also ignoring that most females use abortion as a form of "birth control". They can't stop fucking and getting pregnant, so they kill the babies. You're also ignoring the disgusting culture that young women embrace today. In their minds, it is just fine to be totally slutty drunkards. And when they end up pregnant, it's just fine to kill the baby. There's no guarantee the baby will be adopted by loving parents. There's plenty of horror stories there too. It might happen but Most women don't use abortion for birth control. You're an old guy, I've been a woman for 50 years...YES, women of my generation use abortion as birth control because they have no moral backbone, they're lazy and like to fuck indiscriminately and also drink and drug out. If they become impregnated, many have been told that it's "just a clump of cells" so they have no problem aborting. Ginseng |
| HYpEr7l9Er
User ID: 75756457  Canada01/25/2023 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.lifenews.com (secure)] Quoting: beeches McClain said she was raped at age 19 by a serial rapist and conceived her daughter. Although the abuse devastated her and abortions were available, McClain chose to raise her daughter on her own. “She was the life that I needed to move on,” she said. “I’m happy that I was not exploited by the abortion industry and told the lie that I could have a reset button. Her life made the difference for me.” Please it is pro choice not pro abortion. If you do not want an abortion then you do not have to have one. MlCHAEL |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81451989 United States01/25/2023 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some may resent the child, neglect it due to the oftentimes brutal experience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11441332 Can rapists demand visitation? I know of one ongoing case in the state of New York... Where the child was taken from the mother, and given to the rapist... because the rapist was himself, and had 3 immediate family members... who were employees of the state !! No lie !! Clown World !!! |
| beeches
(OP) User ID: 78973486 United States01/25/2023 07:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Part 4 Quoting: tiger1 The morning of Feb. 16, 1995, I awoke swollen from head to toe. I had many problems during my pregnancy, but not swelling. I was rushed to the ER again. They monitored me, ran some tests and concluded that I was not in labor yet and everything looked OK. They told me to get ready to go home, as they were discharging me. No sooner did they walk out of the room my labor started at two minutes apart. My vitals crashed, and I was slipping away. The doctor rushed in with a portable X-ray machine. The X-ray showed my daughter coming out feet first -- a breech birth. They rushed me into surgery and did an emergency c-section, cutting me through the previous incision from the surgery months before. The doctor told me he could save my baby, but I wasn't doing well. I found out later that I nearly died. After the surgery, I was given a 50/50 chance of survival, but my daughter was perfectly fine. In conclusion, as I am not printing the rest of the article for copy-write and privacy sake, my daughter is now 27, is a Senior Financial Analyst for a Fortune 500 company, and is getting married in May. You and your daughter serve as proof that miracles do happen. Thank GOD you both survived and thank you for sharing your story.  As Beeches posted, for medical reasons they can deliver the baby early. The doctor told me I had to hang on until at least December 12th, and he would guarantee me a healthy baby. I made it to full term on February 16th. My doctor did tell me later,that I only had a 10% chance of making it through the emergency c-section, as I was literally dying. I knew I was, as a former EMT. My thoughts were to save my child. I told the doctor as they were starting to put me under, to please save my child, and don't worry about me. I give God all the glory !  Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| beeches
(OP) User ID: 78973486 United States01/25/2023 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.lifenews.com (secure)] Quoting: beeches McClain said she was raped at age 19 by a serial rapist and conceived her daughter. Although the abuse devastated her and abortions were available, McClain chose to raise her daughter on her own. “She was the life that I needed to move on,” she said. “I’m happy that I was not exploited by the abortion industry and told the lie that I could have a reset button. Her life made the difference for me.” Please it is pro choice not pro abortion. If you do not want an abortion then you do not have to have one. you call it what you want, I will do the same! the anger this woman's choice raised tells me lots of abortion fans hate her. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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| Ginseng
User ID: 84004355 United States01/25/2023 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure this will not be a popular opinion, but "women" really need to take a little more responsibility and keep their legs together, and rein in the irresponsible substance abuse. I'm not excusing the men either, but the fact is, women are the gatekeepers of reproduction. It is up to them if you get to stick your dick in them or not (except in cases or violent rape, which should be addressed separately from "partying"). Ginseng |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85153939 United States01/25/2023 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.lifenews.com (secure)] Quoting: beeches McClain said she was raped at age 19 by a serial rapist and conceived her daughter. Although the abuse devastated her and abortions were available, McClain chose to raise her daughter on her own. “She was the life that I needed to move on,” she said. “I’m happy that I was not exploited by the abortion industry and told the lie that I could have a reset button. Her life made the difference for me.” :heartholding: Please it is pro choice not pro abortion. If you do not want an abortion then you do not have to have one. you call it what you want, I will do the same! the anger this woman's choice raised tells me lots of abortion fans hate her. you know who also hated her....... the guy who raped her and probably the child who grew up to find out he father raped her mother |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85153939 United States01/25/2023 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure this will not be a popular opinion, but "women" really need to take a little more responsibility and keep their legs together, and rein in the irresponsible substance abuse. Quoting: Ginseng I'm not excusing the men either, but the fact is, women are the gatekeepers of reproduction. It is up to them if you get to stick your dick in them or not (except in cases or violent rape, which should be addressed separately from "partying"). so all women who are raped are drunks and drug addicts? |
| beeches
(OP) User ID: 78973486 United States01/25/2023 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally a women who gets it and sounds logical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73972319 All you pro abortion freaks can go run in front of a train. ONE CRIME DOESN'T DESERVE ANOTHER!!! so let criminals breed with women who don't want criminals to breed with them got it why do you want to let that happen? cuz you think it makes you sound smart! who said let the rapist go free - you? Lemme guess a liberal Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| tiger1
User ID: 79267566 United States01/25/2023 08:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally a women who gets it and sounds logical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73972319 All you pro abortion freaks can go run in front of a train. ONE CRIME DOESN'T DESERVE ANOTHER!!! I am sure man People have told you there are not many "pro abortion" anyone, just pro compassion. Men who don't have their body torn apart by birth seem to think they should decide. But I always see People speaking up for saving every fertile egg, unwilling to take in the unwanted who end up as derelicts on the streets or trafficked to brothels and drugs, unloved unwanted. One of my children is adopted. My cousin adopted, my grandmother adopted, several of my friends adopted. Their is a loving home for every child, if they are given a chance at life. BTW, I was a foster parent, my grandmother was too, and several of my friends. Last Edited by tiger1 on 01/25/2023 08:04 PM Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
