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(OP) *MOLON LABE* User ID: 81652425 United States 01/15/2023 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
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(OP) *MOLON LABE* User ID: 81652425 United States 01/15/2023 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
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(OP) *MOLON LABE* User ID: 81652425 United States 01/15/2023 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
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(OP) *MOLON LABE* User ID: 81652425 United States 01/15/2023 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
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(OP) *MOLON LABE* User ID: 81652425 United States 01/15/2023 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I'll come back later. Any help is GREATLY appreciated "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84871082 United States 01/15/2023 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I'll lay out the facts Quoting: Just Passing Through..... 97 Tahoe 2 door Z71 Sport with all the off-road goodies offered by GM Now, the rear-end/differential is making a whine/hum that starts around 20-25mph and is constant all the way up to 70-75mph. If I let off the gas it disappears. The rear end is a 10-bolt 8.6" gear. It has 30 spline axles, it has the factory G80 locker and 3.42 gear ratio. I replaced the axle bearings/seals and changed out the differential oil and added some reaally good friction modifier for the locker. So, this is my question. Is this pinion bearings, carrier bearings? Is this the backlash on my gesr and pinion becoming too sloppy? If that's the case that means my gears are fucked, yes? Anyone can share their .02 cents as long as it's constructive and on topic. I have Chevy's, Ford's, Dodge's, and Toyota's in my driveway so nobody needs to say I need to get rid of my Chevy. All brands have their pluses and minues. So no shit talking about what brand is best. I have all the brands worth owning and they all have issues....even my 97 'Yota FJ80. I just want to know how fucked I am with my rear differential. I've never rebuilt a rear differential before so diagnosing this whine/hum has been hard. Chattering then maybe your gears too. But the Pinion and Carrier may be fried..... You also may have a trans problem. In either case it's really not home mechanic stuff. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35030339 United Kingdom 01/15/2023 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I'll lay out the facts Quoting: Just Passing Through..... 97 Tahoe 2 door Z71 Sport with all the off-road goodies offered by GM Now, the rear-end/differential is making a whine/hum that starts around 20-25mph and is constant all the way up to 70-75mph. If I let off the gas it disappears. The rear end is a 10-bolt 8.6" gear. It has 30 spline axles, it has the factory G80 locker and 3.42 gear ratio. I replaced the axle bearings/seals and changed out the differential oil and added some reaally good friction modifier for the locker. So, this is my question. Is this pinion bearings, carrier bearings? Is this the backlash on my gesr and pinion becoming too sloppy? If that's the case that means my gears are fucked, yes? Anyone can share their .02 cents as long as it's constructive and on topic. I have Chevy's, Ford's, Dodge's, and Toyota's in my driveway so nobody needs to say I need to get rid of my Chevy. All brands have their pluses and minues. So no shit talking about what brand is best. I have all the brands worth owning and they all have issues....even my 97 'Yota FJ80. I just want to know how fucked I am with my rear differential. I've never rebuilt a rear differential before so diagnosing this whine/hum has been hard. I asked Chat GPT for you. Here is it's response: Rear Differential Whine Diagnostics 97 Tahoe 2 door Z71 Sport with all the off-road goodies offered by GM Now, the rear-end/differential is making a whine/hum that starts around 20-25mph and is constant all the way up to 70-75mph. If I let off the gas it disappears. The rear end is a 10-bolt 8.6" gear. It has 30 spline axles, it has the factory G80 locker and 3.42 gear ratio. I replaced the axle bearings/seals and changed out the differential oil and added some reaally good friction modifier for the locker. So, this is my question. Is this pinion bearings, carrier bearings? Is this the backlash on my gesr and pinion becoming too sloppy? Based on the symptoms you described, it is likely that the problem is related to the pinion or carrier bearings in the rear differential. The whine/hum that starts around 20-25mph and is constant up to 70-75mph, and disappears when you let off the gas, is a common symptom of bearing wear. The fact that the problem persists even after you have replaced the axle bearings/seals and changed the differential oil suggests that the issue is not with those components. It is also possible that the backlash on your gears and pinion is becoming too sloppy, which could be causing the whine/hum. To determine the root cause of the problem, you may want to consult a mechanic or a differential specialist to have the rear-end inspected and diagnose the issue more accurately. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77736665 United States 01/15/2023 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But i recall buying new gears etc and installing didn't look that bad. But kinda prides. Prices change a lot though. Drain the fluid and pop it open. See what's going on. Not mechanical advice though. At all. Wait till a real glper mechanic chimes in. Goodluck |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83264692 United States 01/15/2023 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is from GM... ***Important: Installing any friction modifier causes the clutch pack in the locking differential to slip and miss engagement. A fluid flush can often remove debris that is a contributor to clutch chatter. Adding friction modifier additive can cause a loss of locking differential functionality*** |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78542367 United States 01/15/2023 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like pinion bearing is going south waiting too long to repair will cause too much water on pinion and ring gear and causing them ton need to be replaced as well. Getting a rear end rebuilt is not cheap. It requires very precise setup and not easy for a novice with limited tools. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70835953 United States 01/15/2023 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pinion depth is set wrong. Did you use a new crush sleeve or did you count threads? If you slapped it back together and tightened the nut, there's your problem. Stop driving it until a professional sets it up properly. Or just buy another rear axle. |
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User ID: 79662918 United States 01/15/2023 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I'll lay out the facts Quoting: Just Passing Through..... 97 Tahoe 2 door Z71 Sport with all the off-road goodies offered by GM Now, the rear-end/differential is making a whine/hum that starts around 20-25mph and is constant all the way up to 70-75mph. If I let off the gas it disappears. The rear end is a 10-bolt 8.6" gear. It has 30 spline axles, it has the factory G80 locker and 3.42 gear ratio. I replaced the axle bearings/seals and changed out the differential oil and added some reaally good friction modifier for the locker. So, this is my question. Is this pinion bearings, carrier bearings? Is this the backlash on my gesr and pinion becoming too sloppy? If that's the case that means my gears are fucked, yes? Anyone can share their .02 cents as long as it's constructive and on topic. I have Chevy's, Ford's, Dodge's, and Toyota's in my driveway so nobody needs to say I need to get rid of my Chevy. All brands have their pluses and minues. So no shit talking about what brand is best. I have all the brands worth owning and they all have issues....even my 97 'Yota FJ80. I just want to know how fucked I am with my rear differential. I've never rebuilt a rear differential before so diagnosing this whine/hum has been hard. You need to raise the vehicle off the ground, with the wheels hanging and in neutral...Parking brake off, and check it manually. If the noise is inside the differential, then remove the inspection plate. Rotate the wheels to determine if the spider gears are worn...If so, get a Jasper rebuilt for probably $1500-2000 I'd guess. Don't rebuild it yourself unless you're a machinist and know what you're doing...A rebuilt is the way to go. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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(OP) *MOLON LABE* User ID: 70028361 United States 01/15/2023 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I'll lay out the facts Quoting: Just Passing Through..... 97 Tahoe 2 door Z71 Sport with all the off-road goodies offered by GM Now, the rear-end/differential is making a whine/hum that starts around 20-25mph and is constant all the way up to 70-75mph. If I let off the gas it disappears. The rear end is a 10-bolt 8.6" gear. It has 30 spline axles, it has the factory G80 locker and 3.42 gear ratio. I replaced the axle bearings/seals and changed out the differential oil and added some reaally good friction modifier for the locker. So, this is my question. Is this pinion bearings, carrier bearings? Is this the backlash on my gesr and pinion becoming too sloppy? If that's the case that means my gears are fucked, yes? Anyone can share their .02 cents as long as it's constructive and on topic. I have Chevy's, Ford's, Dodge's, and Toyota's in my driveway so nobody needs to say I need to get rid of my Chevy. All brands have their pluses and minues. So no shit talking about what brand is best. I have all the brands worth owning and they all have issues....even my 97 'Yota FJ80. I just want to know how fucked I am with my rear differential. I've never rebuilt a rear differential before so diagnosing this whine/hum has been hard. You need to raise the vehicle off the ground, with the wheels hanging and in neutral...Parking brake off, and check it manually. If the noise is inside the differential, then remove the inspection plate. Rotate the wheels to determine if the spider gears are worn...If so, get a Jasper rebuilt for probably $1500-2000 I'd guess. Don't rebuild it yourself unless you're a machinist and know what you're doing...A rebuilt is the way to go. I'm pretty competent with this stuff. I have all the goodies too in my garage. However....... Time is a very important thing for me so it may just be easier like you said and just buy a rebuilt rear end and just swap it out. In fact, I think I'll do that now. You like Jasper? I was on Rigid Axle and they have A1 Cardone. I guess I'll compare what internals are in each and go from there. Thank you "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |