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Why China WILL betray Russia

 
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Russia will probably take over Siberia, which they see as their historical lands any way. They see ethnic Russians in Siberia as European invaders and colonialists that are a humiliation to China and need to be dealt with in due course, like Hong Kong.

Best case scenario for Russia at this point is that they can come to some sort of agreement/compromise with China where Russia essentially becomes part of China, and they become equal partners under the same flag.
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Sure sure

The reality is you don’t have an argument

China would be able to take advantage of a weakened Russia, using massive leverage to secure better energy deals. Russia will have no choice. China also will be ensured a smooth takeover of Taiwan. China always has preferred soft power.

Cope more. Russia miscalculated the west’s response to this and now they are doomed for 100+ years
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Sure. and if that happens then Russia will just unload 2000 nukes on China. But you make it sound so easy, if it was easy then the US/NATO would directly attack Russia, but the nukes is the real big issue here, and if it came down to genocide of any people or its country, any super power would do the same thing.
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And that’s more of a reason why russia needs to be dismantled. They are a destabilizing force.

Also, Russians are too stupid and lazy and poor to maintain their nukes. They don’t have nearly the arsenal they claim when it comes to functional nukes.

China benefits far more siding with the US than Russia. We have far more money and will be better customers.
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Ohh ok, so what your saying is if China attack the US, then you will just sit around and do nothing, sorry but you sound more stupid than russians, but please tell us how US/NATO is winning the war in Ukraine, if Russia is so stupid.

Going back to your first statement, US is not a destabilizing force?
Maybe they need to be "dismantled"

Bottom line, you sound like a true hypocrite.
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Russia will probably take over Siberia, which they see as their historical lands any way. They see ethnic Russians in Siberia as European invaders and colonialists that are a humiliation to China and need to be dealt with in due course, like Hong Kong.

Best case scenario for Russia at this point is that they can come to some sort of agreement/compromise with China where Russia essentially becomes part of China, and they become equal partners under the same flag.
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I meant to write, China will probably take over Siberia*
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01/19/2023 07:41 AM
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1) China has dirt on us politicians particularly those in power...

2) they will betray Russia without trusting the us, only trusting us reactions along with timing.

3) China needs Russian gas but Russia can only sell so many places because pipeline explosion

4) China ain't no one's fren

5) China has a population crisis as in not enough youth to support seniors

6) same with Russia

7) same with the US except we import illegals
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8) Russia sells grains

9) US sells meat and few other foods

10) China sells US food back to the US
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1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
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China needs Russian Oil.

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All "Russian" oil is located in he far east. What makes you think the Chinese intend to continually play ball with the colonial government in Moscow rather than just invade and take it for themselves?

The Chinese see themselves as having much more right to the far east oil sites than a load of "white devils" in Moscow and St. Petersburg do.
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Sure sure

The reality is you don’t have an argument

China would be able to take advantage of a weakened Russia, using massive leverage to secure better energy deals. Russia will have no choice. China also will be ensured a smooth takeover of Taiwan. China always has preferred soft power.

Cope more. Russia miscalculated the west’s response to this and now they are doomed for 100+ years
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488


Sure. and if that happens then Russia will just unload 2000 nukes on China. But you make it sound so easy, if it was easy then the US/NATO would directly attack Russia, but the nukes is the real big issue here, and if it came down to genocide of any people or its country, any super power would do the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69340495


And that’s more of a reason why russia needs to be dismantled. They are a destabilizing force.

Also, Russians are too stupid and lazy and poor to maintain their nukes. They don’t have nearly the arsenal they claim when it comes to functional nukes.

China benefits far more siding with the US than Russia. We have far more money and will be better customers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488


Ohh ok, so what your saying is if China attack the US, then you will just sit around and do nothing, sorry but you sound more stupid than russians, but please tell us how US/NATO is winning the war in Ukraine, if Russia is so stupid.

Going back to your first statement, US is not a destabilizing force?
Maybe they need to be "dismantled"

Bottom line, you sound like a true hypocrite.
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Lol what the hell are you talking about?

How did you come up with the China attacking the US thing? That makes zero sense.

Is your translator broken, Ivan?
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01/19/2023 07:45 AM
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When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.
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01/19/2023 07:52 AM
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When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.

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Jesus comes back and shuns all landlords.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85129071


Nope.

China and the west will broker a deal for Taiwan. In return China will turn on Russia. Russia’s energy and other resources will be split amongst Europe, China and the US. Russia will most likely break up into smaller states.

They have the largest country in the world with an economy smaller than texas’. They are doomed after this miscalculation.

I think if the invasion hadn’t been a total failure as it has been, China would have sided with Russia. But now it’s clear this invasion was a massive blunder and China WILL betray Russia.
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01/19/2023 08:04 AM
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No, they can trust Russia.

They will invade the USA.

After they buy it and foreclose.
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01/19/2023 08:09 AM
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No, they can trust Russia.

They will invade the USA.

After they buy it and foreclose.
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Lol ok retard
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01/19/2023 08:12 AM
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When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85129071


Nope.

China and the west will broker a deal for Taiwan. In return China will turn on Russia. Russia’s energy and other resources will be split amongst Europe, China and the US. Russia will most likely break up into smaller states.

They have the largest country in the world with an economy smaller than texas’. They are doomed after this miscalculation.

I think if the invasion hadn’t been a total failure as it has been, China would have sided with Russia. But now it’s clear this invasion was a massive blunder and China WILL betray Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488



You need perspective.

China is siding with Russia as part of the BRICS as they do not want to be controlled by WEF or DC. They rely on tons of resources including food from Russia.

As for Russia they are a military titan. 40+ nations with a budget that far exceeds Russia's can't stop a motley crew of Wagner ex cons and Chechens and Donbass coalminers. The actual Russian army is barely operating in Ukraine. At most 15% of the actual Russian army is in Ukraine and is in a support role. The brightest minds of NATO with all their satellites/awacs/global hawsk which hide outside of Russia's reach has failed to stop Russia from protecting the ethnic Russians of southeastern Ukraine.

Russia now has peer to peer combat experience and has figured out how to fight nato even though nato knows their every move with sats/awacs.
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01/19/2023 08:15 AM
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No they will not.

If they do, they will be finished off quickly by usa and allies.

Russia, and chinese only chance in this is they stick together, and both come through it, and show others they can.

Tel aviv, london, and washington want both gone.

At start of this century tel aviv never would of thought russia would of come back from the dirt, as they did, and be an international country again.

Washington plan for 21st century was to have just china as there main enemy that they surround, and crush.

If russia had not come back, china would of been surrounded by now, and slowly squeezed.
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hesright

Nato shows having nukes doesn’t mean shit. Nato will attack you and force lgtbq/wokism culture into every country, destroy your families, depopulate you, and spend all your money.
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01/19/2023 08:17 AM
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When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85129071


Nope.

China and the west will broker a deal for Taiwan. In return China will turn on Russia. Russia’s energy and other resources will be split amongst Europe, China and the US. Russia will most likely break up into smaller states.

They have the largest country in the world with an economy smaller than texas’. They are doomed after this miscalculation.

I think if the invasion hadn’t been a total failure as it has been, China would have sided with Russia. But now it’s clear this invasion was a massive blunder and China WILL betray Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488


You should work for that moron Secretary of State blinker. Total smooth brain.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85129071


Nope.

China and the west will broker a deal for Taiwan. In return China will turn on Russia. Russia’s energy and other resources will be split amongst Europe, China and the US. Russia will most likely break up into smaller states.

They have the largest country in the world with an economy smaller than texas’. They are doomed after this miscalculation.

I think if the invasion hadn’t been a total failure as it has been, China would have sided with Russia. But now it’s clear this invasion was a massive blunder and China WILL betray Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488



You need perspective.

China is siding with Russia as part of the BRICS as they do not want to be controlled by WEF or DC. They rely on tons of resources including food from Russia.

As for Russia they are a military titan. 40+ nations with a budget that far exceeds Russia's can't stop a motley crew of Wagner ex cons and Chechens and Donbass coalminers. The actual Russian army is barely operating in Ukraine. At most 15% of the actual Russian army is in Ukraine and is in a support role. The brightest minds of NATO with all their satellites/awacs/global hawsk which hide outside of Russia's reach has failed to stop Russia from protecting the ethnic Russians of southeastern Ukraine.

Russia now has peer to peer combat experience and has figured out how to fight nato even though nato knows their every move with sats/awacs.
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Wishful thinking

Russia offers nothing to China now
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When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85129071


Nope.

China and the west will broker a deal for Taiwan. In return China will turn on Russia. Russia’s energy and other resources will be split amongst Europe, China and the US. Russia will most likely break up into smaller states.

They have the largest country in the world with an economy smaller than texas’. They are doomed after this miscalculation.

I think if the invasion hadn’t been a total failure as it has been, China would have sided with Russia. But now it’s clear this invasion was a massive blunder and China WILL betray Russia.
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You should work for that moron Secretary of State blinker. Total smooth brain.
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That’s not an argument but hey you can be as emotional as you want, little girl.
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When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85129071


Nope.

China and the west will broker a deal for Taiwan. In return China will turn on Russia. Russia’s energy and other resources will be split amongst Europe, China and the US. Russia will most likely break up into smaller states.

They have the largest country in the world with an economy smaller than texas’. They are doomed after this miscalculation.

I think if the invasion hadn’t been a total failure as it has been, China would have sided with Russia. But now it’s clear this invasion was a massive blunder and China WILL betray Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488



You need perspective.

China is siding with Russia as part of the BRICS as they do not want to be controlled by WEF or DC. They rely on tons of resources including food from Russia.

As for Russia they are a military titan. 40+ nations with a budget that far exceeds Russia's can't stop a motley crew of Wagner ex cons and Chechens and Donbass coalminers. The actual Russian army is barely operating in Ukraine. At most 15% of the actual Russian army is in Ukraine and is in a support role. The brightest minds of NATO with all their satellites/awacs/global hawsk which hide outside of Russia's reach has failed to stop Russia from protecting the ethnic Russians of southeastern Ukraine.

Russia now has peer to peer combat experience and has figured out how to fight nato even though nato knows their every move with sats/awacs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84825542


Wishful thinking

Russia offers nothing to China now
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You need to get educated. You're operating with a shortage of data. China needs Russia.
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When China takes Taiwan, the USA will attack
China, and Russia will wipe the USA off the
face of the Earth.

Then a new era begins.

What will that will be like?

Read the last Book of the Bible.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85129071


Nope.

China and the west will broker a deal for Taiwan. In return China will turn on Russia. Russia’s energy and other resources will be split amongst Europe, China and the US. Russia will most likely break up into smaller states.

They have the largest country in the world with an economy smaller than texas’. They are doomed after this miscalculation.

I think if the invasion hadn’t been a total failure as it has been, China would have sided with Russia. But now it’s clear this invasion was a massive blunder and China WILL betray Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488



You need perspective.

China is siding with Russia as part of the BRICS as they do not want to be controlled by WEF or DC. They rely on tons of resources including food from Russia.

As for Russia they are a military titan. 40+ nations with a budget that far exceeds Russia's can't stop a motley crew of Wagner ex cons and Chechens and Donbass coalminers. The actual Russian army is barely operating in Ukraine. At most 15% of the actual Russian army is in Ukraine and is in a support role. The brightest minds of NATO with all their satellites/awacs/global hawsk which hide outside of Russia's reach has failed to stop Russia from protecting the ethnic Russians of southeastern Ukraine.

Russia now has peer to peer combat experience and has figured out how to fight nato even though nato knows their every move with sats/awacs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84825542


Wishful thinking

Russia offers nothing to China now
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Except gas, grains to the west which feeds American livestock which goes to China which they sell back to the west...
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The betrayal will come when it suits China. Their ultimate goal and the WEF’s ultimate goal is to use the war to reduce the human herd and weaken Russia and the US to the point that China is the worlds sole superpower. Russias hopes of a multipolar world will be dashed by the NWO.
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Yup russia is fucked
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1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
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01/24/2023 12:06 PM
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There won’t be a russia after this.
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China can do whatever it wants. They have diversified their energy sources and have economic strangleholds on many nations.
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Mandate of Heaven is intact. Evidence: Not a dime's depth of real fracture between ROC and the Mainland—culturally, linguistically etc—while Xi's signature home-team upgrade, the Greater Bay Area project, promises to expand to global importance.

Even as Taiwan insurers (like Japan's) pay awards to suicides and gladly absorb occupation by barefoot Middle East types—two virtual definitions of self-acknowledged shitholes. That strong, ongoing Xi-Putin alliance = Winning.

Mandate of Heaven. Search it.

Simply put, winners get this:




Dumbfucks, meanwhile, get this:

Enjoy your buttsex instruction for sixth-graders, fentanyl breaks on the factory floor, grotesquely divisive 'arts', borders open to no-talents, and coke fiends calling shots from on high.



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No they will not.

If they do, they will be finished off quickly by usa and allies.

Russia, and chinese only chance in this is they stick together, and both come through it, and show others they can.

Tel aviv, london, and washington want both gone.

At start of this century tel aviv never would of thought russia would of come back from the dirt, as they did, and be an international country again.

Washington plan for 21st century was to have just china as there main enemy that they surround, and crush.

If russia had not come back, china would of been surrounded by now, and slowly squeezed.
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Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining.
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more likely its russia that will betray China which leads to its destruction.

my prediction for that event is 9 October 2023.
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1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24444095

China needs Russian Oil.


China needs Taiwan.

China has urged it's citizens to buy gold for over a decade now while buying it for the nation as well.

They have just about enough to have a gold standard currency which means it will not be able to be attacked economically because no matter what the gold is worth what the gold is worth.


Taiwan has a quarter of all gold mined in the form of the Imperial Treasury. When the commies took over China the Imperial Family fled with the Imperial Treasury to Taiwan.

Over 4000 years of collected artefacts and golden objects. It is the largest single repository of gold anywhere on Earth.


That is Why China will invade Taiwan. As soon as they secure that they become the Gold Standard in currencies world wide.

Russia has already positioned itself by valuing their currency at one gram of the current price of Gold.


As long as Russia backs them and doesn't oppose them they will achieve it.
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Well said. World fed up with Petro Dollar violence and corruption. Remember too, that Russia/China are NOT buying into this BLM LGBTQ bullshit being shoved down their throats.
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Why should china be royal to any countries but their own? International politics don’t work like that man. It’s always ones country’s benefit first.





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