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Why China WILL betray Russia

 
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Why China WILL betray Russia
1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
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Well china cant move against USA, we produce 30% of their meat foods
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
No they will not.

If they do, they will be finished off quickly by usa and allies.

Russia, and chinese only chance in this is they stick together, and both come through it, and show others they can.

Tel aviv, london, and washington want both gone.

At start of this century tel aviv never would of thought russia would of come back from the dirt, as they did, and be an international country again.

Washington plan for 21st century was to have just china as there main enemy that they surround, and crush.

If russia had not come back, china would of been surrounded by now, and slowly squeezed.
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^ delusional
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
Scorpion and the fox.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
This will happen or already has happened
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It would happen if DS still in total control of China.

I don't think that is the case.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
OP is retard without any brainmass
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
OP is retard without any brainmass
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That’s not an argument.

That’s more like a childish admission of defeat.
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01/12/2023 03:20 PM
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
Clueless nonsense.

China will do whatever the fuck it wants with Taiwan.

China and Russia are natural allies, far stronger together than apart.
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the US Deep State will make a deal with China to restore the lands Russia stole over the last 4-5 centuries, in Siberia & on the Pacific...MAKE BOOK ON IT, OCCAM
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
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hesright
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24444095

China needs Russian Oil.


China needs Taiwan.

China has urged it's citizens to buy gold for over a decade now while buying it for the nation as well.

They have just about enough to have a gold standard currency which means it will not be able to be attacked economically because no matter what the gold is worth what the gold is worth.


Taiwan has a quarter of all gold mined in the form of the Imperial Treasury. When the commies took over China the Imperial Family fled with the Imperial Treasury to Taiwan.

Over 4000 years of collected artefacts and golden objects. It is the largest single repository of gold anywhere on Earth.


That is Why China will invade Taiwan. As soon as they secure that they become the Gold Standard in currencies world wide.

Russia has already positioned itself by valuing their currency at one gram of the current price of Gold.


As long as Russia backs them and doesn't oppose them they will achieve it.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24444095

China needs Russian Oil.


China needs Taiwan.

China has urged it's citizens to buy gold for over a decade now while buying it for the nation as well.

They have just about enough to have a gold standard currency which means it will not be able to be attacked economically because no matter what the gold is worth what the gold is worth.


Taiwan has a quarter of all gold mined in the form of the Imperial Treasury. When the commies took over China the Imperial Family fled with the Imperial Treasury to Taiwan.

Over 4000 years of collected artefacts and golden objects. It is the largest single repository of gold anywhere on Earth.


That is Why China will invade Taiwan. As soon as they secure that they become the Gold Standard in currencies world wide.

Russia has already positioned itself by valuing their currency at one gram of the current price of Gold.


As long as Russia backs them and doesn't oppose them they will achieve it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82618887


Nope.

China will betray Russia and get Taiwan as a the prize. That will be after the US can manufacture chips. Then Russia will be destroyed for about 100 years or so. They will be owned by China and China will just forcefully convince or take whatever they want from Russia.

Russia is done. There may not even be a Russia in 100 years anymore.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24444095


Still have a fantasy of starving and freezing in a Russian castle eh? That what happened in the past.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24444095


Still have a fantasy of starving and freezing in a Russian castle eh? That what happened in the past.
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Things are much different now.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
Clueless nonsense.

China will do whatever the fuck it wants with Taiwan.

China and Russia are natural allies, far stronger together than apart.
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Marxist neomonarchist dictators have no allies, they're not interested in sharing power in any way.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
1. Get taiwan deal
2. Get control over Russian resources
3. Strengthen relations with us and europe to gain advantage in future deals. Both have more more than russia who is broke but ripe for the pickings resource wise. Just need to demilitarize them first.

Ukraine made the deal because they remain sovereign

Europe is in to curb Russian aggression and capture resources

Bye bye Russia, bye bye!

100+ years Russia will be a vassal state split in a few parts.
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Russia is so fucked
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
Russia will be split between Europe and China. Completely dismantle their military. China would rather sell us everything than fight the west. Russia has nothing to offer other than oil. We take care of that now with China’s help and the world has lots of oil and one of the biggest threats taken out.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24444095



And here is why they won't :


1.The U.S. is no longer trusted by China.


2.If China takes Taiwan, with or without the U.S. "ok", the supremacy of the U.S. in Pacific is OVER, and with it, Japan and SK will re-align with China.


3.From the U.S. (albeit WRONG) political and economic pov, Taiwan is far more important then Ukraine.


4.China doesn't have a chance in hell to survive without Russia's energy imports., at least on medium term (10-15 years).


5.The relationships between Russia and India will SKYROCKET, if China betrays Russia, and in VERY SHORT TERM, Indian army will be an absolute monster, armed to the teeth by Russia.




I could go on, but you are way too dumb to realize what is going on.

Last Edited by Recollector on 01/14/2023 11:21 AM
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I've been waiting to see how China pulls this off. Surely Putin understands once the US falls, he's next.
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
1. They make a deal with the US for easier takeover of Taiwan as soon as US secured chip production.

2. They weaken their biggest local threat.

The situation in Ukraine is more important for the world in a destabilizing sense than Taiwan. That’s why China will make the deal, get what they want and push their closest threat down… which will make them subject to China for 100+ years.

It’s over for Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24444095


Russia is so fucked
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
China knows which side their bread is buttered.
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OP is retard without any brainmass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85098742


That’s not an argument.

That’s more like a childish admission of defeat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25842139


You don't need an argument, OP is a complete retard.
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OP is retard without any brainmass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85098742


That’s not an argument.

That’s more like a childish admission of defeat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25842139


You don't need an argument, OP is a complete retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69340495


Sure sure

The reality is you don’t have an argument

China would be able to take advantage of a weakened Russia, using massive leverage to secure better energy deals. Russia will have no choice. China also will be ensured a smooth takeover of Taiwan. China always has preferred soft power.

Cope more. Russia miscalculated the west’s response to this and now they are doomed for 100+ years
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Re: Why China WILL betray Russia
The Fox and the Scorpion...
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OP is retard without any brainmass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85098742


That’s not an argument.

That’s more like a childish admission of defeat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25842139


You don't need an argument, OP is a complete retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69340495


Sure sure

The reality is you don’t have an argument

China would be able to take advantage of a weakened Russia, using massive leverage to secure better energy deals. Russia will have no choice. China also will be ensured a smooth takeover of Taiwan. China always has preferred soft power.

Cope more. Russia miscalculated the west’s response to this and now they are doomed for 100+ years
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488


Sure. and if that happens then Russia will just unload 2000 nukes on China. But you make it sound so easy, if it was easy then the US/NATO would directly attack Russia, but the nukes is the real big issue here, and if it came down to genocide of any people or its country, any super power would do the same thing.
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China knows the fuckery of US divide and conquer policy.
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That’s not an argument.

That’s more like a childish admission of defeat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25842139


You don't need an argument, OP is a complete retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69340495


Sure sure

The reality is you don’t have an argument

China would be able to take advantage of a weakened Russia, using massive leverage to secure better energy deals. Russia will have no choice. China also will be ensured a smooth takeover of Taiwan. China always has preferred soft power.

Cope more. Russia miscalculated the west’s response to this and now they are doomed for 100+ years
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488


Sure. and if that happens then Russia will just unload 2000 nukes on China. But you make it sound so easy, if it was easy then the US/NATO would directly attack Russia, but the nukes is the real big issue here, and if it came down to genocide of any people or its country, any super power would do the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69340495


And that’s more of a reason why russia needs to be dismantled. They are a destabilizing force.

Also, Russians are too stupid and lazy and poor to maintain their nukes. They don’t have nearly the arsenal they claim when it comes to functional nukes.

China benefits far more siding with the US than Russia. We have far more money and will be better customers.
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You don't need an argument, OP is a complete retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69340495


Sure sure

The reality is you don’t have an argument

China would be able to take advantage of a weakened Russia, using massive leverage to secure better energy deals. Russia will have no choice. China also will be ensured a smooth takeover of Taiwan. China always has preferred soft power.

Cope more. Russia miscalculated the west’s response to this and now they are doomed for 100+ years
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488


Sure. and if that happens then Russia will just unload 2000 nukes on China. But you make it sound so easy, if it was easy then the US/NATO would directly attack Russia, but the nukes is the real big issue here, and if it came down to genocide of any people or its country, any super power would do the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69340495


And that’s more of a reason why russia needs to be dismantled. They are a destabilizing force.

Also, Russians are too stupid and lazy and poor to maintain their nukes. They don’t have nearly the arsenal they claim when it comes to functional nukes.

China benefits far more siding with the US than Russia. We have far more money and will be better customers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706488


Ohh ok, so what your saying is if China attack the US, then you will just sit around and do nothing, sorry but you sound more stupid than russians, but please tell us how US/NATO is winning the war in Ukraine, if Russia is so stupid.

Going back to your first statement, US is not a destabilizing force?
Maybe they need to be "dismantled"

Bottom line, you sound like a true hypocrite.





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