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Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor

 
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Fuk all this VTOL and STOL shit..

Build robust take off and landing capabilities let established prop driven ground attack do their job.
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What happens if a single rotor is taken out? Can it fly on a single rotor or auto-rotate in a power-out emergency?
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Probably seize up the other rotor ...so I say imho no to that.
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Fuk all this VTOL and STOL shit..

Build robust take off and landing capabilities let established prop driven ground attack do their job.
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


Oh wait . they're going with crop dusters..thought saw that.
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
I was not expecting this choice when you consider the breadth of application areas.

ON THE OTHER HAND...

The conflicts we are likely facing within the next decade will involve island-hopping
in the western Pacific. Given the distances, varied austere environments, the need to
haul heavy loads incl troops, equipment, etc..., this would appear to be the smart choice.


.damned

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hesright
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This is the beginning of halo
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Fuk all this VTOL and STOL shit..

Build robust take off and landing capabilities let established prop driven ground attack do their job.
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


Dog look at the specs before you talk our adversaries will have this in 30 years be gracious your country has it now
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Does anyone have an info graphic comparison of cost, performance/capacity, as to why this is a preferable platform?
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


It's the government, they don't give a FUCK about things that really matter...

burnit
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There is no prototype ?

It is just a digital design?

LoL get me in on some of that government CHEEEEESEEEEEE
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This is real army picked bell over sirkorsky helicopter’s
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No way does that clumsy drone replace a helicopter. That won't even go where a helicopter can, the whole point of a helicopter is fitting in small tight spaces.
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So they can save democracy...lol!
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
Does anyone have an info graphic comparison of cost, performance/capacity, as to why this is a preferable platform?
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


It's the government, they don't give a FUCK about things that really matter...

burnit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78321289


Black hawk
-cost 19$ million
-2 pilots 2 gunners 12 fully equipped soldiers seated
-Its speed 183 mph

V-280 valor
-cost 43$ million
-4 crew members 14 troops
-speed 322 mph
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Advantages? Probably speed only. I bet there are more disadvantages than advantages, like being a bigger target for one. ..and needing twice the landing pad space cleared in order to land. Instead of clearing five trees now need to clear fifteen.
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Advantages? Probably speed only. I bet there are more disadvantages than advantages, like being a bigger target for one. ..and needing twice the landing pad space cleared in order to land. Instead of clearing five trees now need to clear fifteen.
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yeah, build a few but dont ditch the H60 just yet
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No way does that clumsy drone replace a helicopter. That won't even go where a helicopter can, the whole point of a helicopter is fitting in small tight spaces.
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Hello!
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
I was not expecting this choice when you consider the breadth of application areas.

ON THE OTHER HAND...

The conflicts we are likely facing within the next decade will involve island-hopping
in the western Pacific. Given the distances, varied austere environments, the need to
haul heavy loads incl troops, equipment, etc..., this would appear to be the smart choice.


.damned
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


I can see that but helicopters do that just fine.

Putting forward operation points behind enemy fire is a no brainer but is 100 mph that much of an advantage?

I will pose a question..

How would the siege of Mauriopul been different if the Ukrainians had V-280s vs MI-8s ?
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The USA is broke. More than broke.

Ever looked at the debt clock?

Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low.

Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets!
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Advantages? Probably speed only. I bet there are more disadvantages than advantages, like being a bigger target for one. ..and needing twice the landing pad space cleared in order to land. Instead of clearing five trees now need to clear fifteen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365094


yeah, build a few but dont ditch the H60 just yet
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I'm with you on this one..
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
The USA is broke. More than broke.

Ever looked at the debt clock?

Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low.

Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets!
 Quoting: Thieves 83759458


Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think.
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
I was not expecting this choice when you consider the breadth of application areas.

ON THE OTHER HAND...

The conflicts we are likely facing within the next decade will involve island-hopping
in the western Pacific. Given the distances, varied austere environments, the need to
haul heavy loads incl troops, equipment, etc..., this would appear to be the smart choice.


.damned
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


I can see that but helicopters do that just fine.

Putting forward operation points behind enemy fire is a no brainer but is 100 mph that much of an advantage?

I will pose a question..

How would the siege of Mauriopul been different if the Ukrainians had V-280s vs MI-8s ?
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


Interesting question considering the airspace is contested.

NO ONE flies with impunity right now.
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
The USA is broke. More than broke.

Ever looked at the debt clock?

Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low.

Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets!
 Quoting: Thieves 83759458


Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think.
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


The US military today is nothing more than a pathetic mercenary force. A gang of murderers with a degenerate character that roams the world robbing and plundering and plunging other countries into chaos and certainly not in service to our country and not in service to the citizen.

The military is the shame and disgrace of our nation.

Those who work for the U.S. military are on the lowest rung of human existence. It is the dregs of humanity that must be spit in the face and crapped on the grave.

Many Christian conservatives feel the same way I do. We will no longer be taken for fools by patriotic propaganda.
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It's a fine machine but will probably not be very reliable.
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“Cool! Maybe they can have as many operational accidents as the Marines did with the Osprey...”

I believe the Osprey had fewer developmental problems than

previous airplanes.

The problem is a large capacity carrier has large number of fatalities

if loaded when it goes down.

The last one to go down only lost 3- the crew!

Still a great loss for the families involved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83891849

The V-22 Osprey: A Crash Decades in the Making
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The speed is 100 mph more then the black hawk and it has VTOL and Horizontal
Flight pretty cool
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looks like a slimmed osprey.. i thought they were trash???
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
The USA is broke. More than broke.

Ever looked at the debt clock?

Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low.

Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets!
 Quoting: Thieves 83759458


Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think.
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


The US military today is nothing more than a pathetic mercenary force. A gang of murderers with a degenerate character that roams the world robbing and plundering and plunging other countries into chaos and certainly not in service to our country and not in service to the citizen.

The military is the shame and disgrace of our nation.

Those who work for the U.S. military are on the lowest rung of human existence. It is the dregs of humanity that must be spit in the face and crapped on the grave.

Many Christian conservatives feel the same way I do. We will no longer be taken for fools by patriotic propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83759458


More bullshit russian undermined narratives.

Gfy
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
The USA is broke. More than broke.

Ever looked at the debt clock?

Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low.

Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets!
 Quoting: Thieves 83759458


Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think.
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


It's on life support, Americas reign soon coming to a close as about 70% of you die before becoming chinas farmland lol.
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
The USA is broke. More than broke.

Ever looked at the debt clock?

Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low.

Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets!
 Quoting: Thieves 83759458


Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think.
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


It's on life support, Americas reign soon coming to a close as about 70% of you die before becoming chinas farmland lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77075251


:beetlejuice:
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
The USA is broke. More than broke.

Ever looked at the debt clock?

Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low.

Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets!
 Quoting: Thieves 83759458


Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think.
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


The US military today is nothing more than a pathetic mercenary force. A gang of murderers with a degenerate character that roams the world robbing and plundering and plunging other countries into chaos and certainly not in service to our country and not in service to the citizen.

The military is the shame and disgrace of our nation.

Those who work for the U.S. military are on the lowest rung of human existence. It is the dregs of humanity that must be spit in the face and crapped on the grave.

Many Christian conservatives feel the same way I do. We will no longer be taken for fools by patriotic propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83759458


More bullshit russian undermined narratives.

Gfy
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


You just can't stand the truth because you have no backbone, because you have no honor and no dignity, and because you slump like a wet rag after taking off your uniform.

You are not a man. You are just an empty shell. An exoskeleton that consists only of a facade, lies and self-deception and in which there is nothing but patheticness.
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Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think.
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


The US military today is nothing more than a pathetic mercenary force. A gang of murderers with a degenerate character that roams the world robbing and plundering and plunging other countries into chaos and certainly not in service to our country and not in service to the citizen.

The military is the shame and disgrace of our nation.

Those who work for the U.S. military are on the lowest rung of human existence. It is the dregs of humanity that must be spit in the face and crapped on the grave.

Many Christian conservatives feel the same way I do. We will no longer be taken for fools by patriotic propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83759458


More bullshit russian undermined narratives.

Gfy
 Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts


You just can't stand the truth because you have no backbone, because you have no honor and no dignity, and because you slump like a wet rag after taking off your uniform.

You are not a man. You are just an empty shell. An exoskeleton that consists only of a facade, lies and self-deception and in which there is nothing but patheticness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83759458


I dry humped your mom in front of your face





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