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User ID: 79735739 United States 12/07/2022 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was not expecting this choice when you consider the breadth of application areas. ON THE OTHER HAND... The conflicts we are likely facing within the next decade will involve island-hopping in the western Pacific. Given the distances, varied austere environments, the need to haul heavy loads incl troops, equipment, etc..., this would appear to be the smart choice. . Last Edited by Gelatinous Mass on 12/07/2022 01:45 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84658867 United States 12/07/2022 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have an info graphic comparison of cost, performance/capacity, as to why this is a preferable platform? Quoting: Mr Bubble Guts It's the government, they don't give a FUCK about things that really matter... Black hawk -cost 19$ million -2 pilots 2 gunners 12 fully equipped soldiers seated -Its speed 183 mph V-280 valor -cost 43$ million -4 crew members 14 troops -speed 322 mph |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365094 United States 12/07/2022 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Advantages? Probably speed only. I bet there are more disadvantages than advantages, like being a bigger target for one. ..and needing twice the landing pad space cleared in order to land. Instead of clearing five trees now need to clear fifteen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365094 United States 12/07/2022 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Advantages? Probably speed only. I bet there are more disadvantages than advantages, like being a bigger target for one. ..and needing twice the landing pad space cleared in order to land. Instead of clearing five trees now need to clear fifteen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365094 yeah, build a few but dont ditch the H60 just yet |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84842741 United States 12/07/2022 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was not expecting this choice when you consider the breadth of application areas. Quoting: Gelatinous Mass ON THE OTHER HAND... The conflicts we are likely facing within the next decade will involve island-hopping in the western Pacific. Given the distances, varied austere environments, the need to haul heavy loads incl troops, equipment, etc..., this would appear to be the smart choice. . I can see that but helicopters do that just fine. Putting forward operation points behind enemy fire is a no brainer but is 100 mph that much of an advantage? I will pose a question.. How would the siege of Mauriopul been different if the Ukrainians had V-280s vs MI-8s ? |
Thieves User ID: 83759458 Japan 12/07/2022 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USA is broke. More than broke. Ever looked at the debt clock? Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low. Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84842741 United States 12/07/2022 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Advantages? Probably speed only. I bet there are more disadvantages than advantages, like being a bigger target for one. ..and needing twice the landing pad space cleared in order to land. Instead of clearing five trees now need to clear fifteen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365094 yeah, build a few but dont ditch the H60 just yet I'm with you on this one.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84842741 United States 12/07/2022 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USA is broke. More than broke. Quoting: Thieves 83759458 Ever looked at the debt clock? Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low. Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets! Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think. |
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User ID: 79735739 United States 12/07/2022 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was not expecting this choice when you consider the breadth of application areas. Quoting: Gelatinous Mass ON THE OTHER HAND... The conflicts we are likely facing within the next decade will involve island-hopping in the western Pacific. Given the distances, varied austere environments, the need to haul heavy loads incl troops, equipment, etc..., this would appear to be the smart choice. . I can see that but helicopters do that just fine. Putting forward operation points behind enemy fire is a no brainer but is 100 mph that much of an advantage? I will pose a question.. How would the siege of Mauriopul been different if the Ukrainians had V-280s vs MI-8s ? Interesting question considering the airspace is contested. NO ONE flies with impunity right now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83759458 Japan 12/07/2022 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USA is broke. More than broke. Quoting: Thieves 83759458 Ever looked at the debt clock? Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low. Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets! Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think. The US military today is nothing more than a pathetic mercenary force. A gang of murderers with a degenerate character that roams the world robbing and plundering and plunging other countries into chaos and certainly not in service to our country and not in service to the citizen. The military is the shame and disgrace of our nation. Those who work for the U.S. military are on the lowest rung of human existence. It is the dregs of humanity that must be spit in the face and crapped on the grave. Many Christian conservatives feel the same way I do. We will no longer be taken for fools by patriotic propaganda. |
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User ID: 77488626 United States 12/07/2022 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Cool! Maybe they can have as many operational accidents as the Marines did with the Osprey...” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83891849 I believe the Osprey had fewer developmental problems than previous airplanes. The problem is a large capacity carrier has large number of fatalities if loaded when it goes down. The last one to go down only lost 3- the crew! Still a great loss for the families involved. The V-22 Osprey: A Crash Decades in the Making [link to www.fortune.com (secure)] Last Edited by Confederate Soldier on 12/07/2022 02:33 AM There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84842741 United States 12/07/2022 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USA is broke. More than broke. Quoting: Thieves 83759458 Ever looked at the debt clock? Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low. Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets! Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think. The US military today is nothing more than a pathetic mercenary force. A gang of murderers with a degenerate character that roams the world robbing and plundering and plunging other countries into chaos and certainly not in service to our country and not in service to the citizen. The military is the shame and disgrace of our nation. Those who work for the U.S. military are on the lowest rung of human existence. It is the dregs of humanity that must be spit in the face and crapped on the grave. Many Christian conservatives feel the same way I do. We will no longer be taken for fools by patriotic propaganda. More bullshit russian undermined narratives. Gfy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77075251 Canada 12/07/2022 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USA is broke. More than broke. Quoting: Thieves 83759458 Ever looked at the debt clock? Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low. Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets! Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think. It's on life support, Americas reign soon coming to a close as about 70% of you die before becoming chinas farmland lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78993647 United States 12/07/2022 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USA is broke. More than broke. Quoting: Thieves 83759458 Ever looked at the debt clock? Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low. Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets! Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think. It's on life support, Americas reign soon coming to a close as about 70% of you die before becoming chinas farmland lol. :beetlejuice: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83759458 Japan 12/07/2022 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USA is broke. More than broke. Quoting: Thieves 83759458 Ever looked at the debt clock? Debt that the taxpayer has to pay for. So the enthusiasm of those whose tax money is being wasted here should be pretty low. Over 800 military bases worldwide. For what? So that tax money can be diverted into private pockets! Operating just fine thank you very much inspite of what you think. The US military today is nothing more than a pathetic mercenary force. A gang of murderers with a degenerate character that roams the world robbing and plundering and plunging other countries into chaos and certainly not in service to our country and not in service to the citizen. The military is the shame and disgrace of our nation. Those who work for the U.S. military are on the lowest rung of human existence. It is the dregs of humanity that must be spit in the face and crapped on the grave. Many Christian conservatives feel the same way I do. We will no longer be taken for fools by patriotic propaganda. More bullshit russian undermined narratives. Gfy You just can't stand the truth because you have no backbone, because you have no honor and no dignity, and because you slump like a wet rag after taking off your uniform. You are not a man. You are just an empty shell. An exoskeleton that consists only of a facade, lies and self-deception and in which there is nothing but patheticness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78993647 United States 12/07/2022 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The US military today is nothing more than a pathetic mercenary force. A gang of murderers with a degenerate character that roams the world robbing and plundering and plunging other countries into chaos and certainly not in service to our country and not in service to the citizen. The military is the shame and disgrace of our nation. Those who work for the U.S. military are on the lowest rung of human existence. It is the dregs of humanity that must be spit in the face and crapped on the grave. Many Christian conservatives feel the same way I do. We will no longer be taken for fools by patriotic propaganda. More bullshit russian undermined narratives. Gfy You just can't stand the truth because you have no backbone, because you have no honor and no dignity, and because you slump like a wet rag after taking off your uniform. You are not a man. You are just an empty shell. An exoskeleton that consists only of a facade, lies and self-deception and in which there is nothing but patheticness. I dry humped your mom in front of your face |