“If you stock your pantry, you aren’t living by faith. I’m waiting for the rapture.”

Lets hear what Christ had to say on the mattter...

Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Last Edited by Achduke7 on 11/29/2022 09:56 PM

What did Jesus 'authoer'?

NOTHING.

Thread: Hebrews 12:2 Embellishes Jesus as "Author" - Yet the Plan for Salvation is Father God's - Bible Study

The Father TOLD Him what to say.

John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

...'The Father GAVE Jesus the Revelation'

...

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,

which God gave unto him,

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

...

Winger is a loud-mouth version of Chuck Missler.

They mean well but are scripturally wrong.

Jacob is the nation of Israel, physical descendants of Jacob, so Jacob = a j ish person. Not the church.

And the 10 lost tribes arent really lost:

[link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]

And besides that, Christmas is not pagan and the pretrib rapture is clearly taught in scripture, as we have established here.

So when Christ is decescribed as God and prophecied to be God in flesh across scripture, you claim thats an embellisment, and that means also his crucifixion and resurrection plus the rest of the stories of the bible are embellisments aswell for you. Definition of embelishment by Oxford:

"a detail, especially one that is untrue, added to a statement or story to make it more interesting.
"stripped of her embellishments, the core of hard fact was disappointingly small""

When Christ is the author and finisher of our faith, he lived out the old testament prophecies and scripture is GOD BREATHED, there would be no scripture without Jesus, the story of God is about him and accurate down to the smallest details and any student of the word will notice this, so thats not an embellishment, untrue and exaggerated in any way, its exactly what happened. Even though Jesus did not physically hold the pen in his own human hand when the bible was written, its like God moved the pen, which is basically what christians mean by "God breathed". God had to, or the bible would not have been written like it was.

And God breathed life into Adam, Jesus breathed life on his diciples, the Word of God breathes life into anyone willing to hear.

Last Edited by Just†Me on 11/30/2022 05:52 AM

You mean they are scripturally correct, because thats exacthy what they are.

I bet Winger would take being a loud-mouth version of an excellent teacher like Chuck Missler as a complement.

When i see maps over where these supposed billions live, exept for a couple of tiny spots which i doubt will even count as a nation since a nation is larger than a tribe, ALL OF THESE SOCALLED UNREACHED AREAS ARE ISLAMIC NATIONS.

But these SAME AREAS had the gospel BEFORE islam, so there USED to be christians from these nations and tribes, and theres been christians in these areas for centuries even though they are no longer there, because of the islamic genocide on them.

So these islamic nations have heard the gospel but rejected it, and therefore condemned themseves to hell and Gods wrath, much like north korea which actually voted in the degenerate communists in power there now, north korea used to be christian before militant atheists ran the country into the ground. And you cant stop people from doing that, because God gave man free will.

So the gospel as far as I can see has been preached to the whole world.

Then why don't you do it and stop just saying it.

Anyone who is listening to you is spiritually shackling themselves to a corpse.

Every soul must hear the message

i agree, and im the only one here to my knowledge that tries to engage with muslims. map, and for info, christians has been in India here marked as largely unreached since apostle Thomas days, long before christians set foot here in Norway (possibly around 400 AD):

[link to banglaministries.org (secure)]

Another unreached group, orthodox and roman catholics:

So, i recall an endtimes movie, i dont remember what it was called but it was about the tribulation period after the rapture, with main persons none other than.. drumroll.... JAPANESE!!!!

One of the LEAST REACHED PEOPLE ON EARTH! MARKED IN RED! SOMETHING AROUND 1% CHRISTIANS AND HARDLY THAT!

And its not even dangerous to preach there and you can legally do it as far as i know. Japanese are generally quite nice people, maybe a bit riceist, still i dont think many are worried if they got japanese neigbours!

But they just dont want to hear about christianity for some reason, so the country is marked as RED - UNREACHED!

And youre not burned alive or have your head chopped off, unlike many places in the middle east, for being a christian in Japan!

Last Edited by Just†Me on 11/30/2022 02:12 PM

I honestly didn't know that about the Japanese.

Right.

So there will be Japanese in heaven, but as many as brits or byzantians (modern day Turkey used to be mainly greek before being invaded by islamic seldjuks, some of the first churches started here, it was kind of the core area of christendom for almost 1500 years and the greeks and tarshish - brits are mentioned for example in Isaiah 66)? I doubt it.

Only God knows, but they will be there. Also remember, Europe had alot of roman catholicism and false converts, a old stereotype muslims hold to is that if youre white you are "christian", which is nonsense. A christian is one who is born again by the spirit of God as described for example in John 3:3-8. So I believe it wont be as geographically concentrated as people might think.

AND btw: The japanese characters in that endtimes movie talked about how they HEARD a family member i believe it was were talking about the endtimes, and what they experienced fit with that. Just to show that even in Japan, people know about christianity atleast acording to that movie.

I wish i could figure out what it was called, its probably atleast 10 years ago ive seen it.

Last Edited by Just†Me on 11/30/2022 04:27 PM

Hi WhiteAngel,

Every soul will hear the message but not by people alone.

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Last Edited by Achduke7 on 11/30/2022 08:18 PM

My pantry has been reasonably stocked since Y2K.

I have believed in the Rapture since about '86.

The few Rapture believers I know have always been minor preppers.

This does not matter Rapture haters.

The truth does not matter to Rapture haters.

All that matters to Rapture haters is perpetuating their Rapture hatred.

They really really REALLY hate the idea that Jesus even might rescue those He Judges to be His Faithful from His Revelation.

It drives them nuts.

They cannot stand not attacking and denying it.

Never can they say I disagree, but that's your opinion and we can agree to disagree my Christian brother.

Never. They MUST tell Rapture believers, not that they are mistaken in their opinion, but condemn THEM as false.

God tells to put away in times of plenty. Park the comic book, read the Bible!

Good thing Joseph didnt think like you...

I believe the Rapture and prep BECAUSE I read The Bible!

Can you understand this or not?

Or MUST you agree with someone shitting on the Rapture-believer?

Quote a Rapture instructing someone not to prepare.

You can probably one or two at most.

I bet you can't find even one here.