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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82351013 United States 10/07/2022 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Edit: Added dates to article snippets, thanks Quoting: griever for mentioning it VegasRick. October 03, 2022: The anti-vaccine movement is a growing threat to public health here and across the globe. Over 3.7 million people in Britain (6.4 per cent) are yet to have a single dose of the Covid vaccine, with rates of refusal highest among young adults, the black population, the unemployed and the deprived. In the United States 21 per cent are not vaccinated at all. The risk of death is 14 times higher in the unvaccinated and without full coverage the danger to the wider population is increased. Thousands of deaths have been linked to vaccine refusal. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that 37,961 unvaccinated people in the UK died with Covid-19 mentioned on their death certificates between January 2021 and March 2022. In the vast majority of cases where Covid is mentioned, it is the underlying cause of death. [link to www.thetimes.co.uk (secure)] Meanwhile: October 06, 2022: Israeli report: "the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period" [link to palexander.substack.com (secure)] LOL... YOU are psychotic. AND... DELUSIONAL... NO SUCH THING as Virii... :) Griever is one of the few caring human beings attempting to disseminate truthful information in an attempt to inspire people to wake up / resist-fight evil. Your comment shows your complicity with evil. Pro-government/statist people are pro-slavery. Which makes them bad people. A STATIST is only a few letters off from a SATANIST. And that's no coincidence. Fuck Satanism. You evil fucks, all of you, will pay the price. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79421218 Singapore 10/07/2022 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Edit: Added dates to article snippets, thanks Quoting: griever for mentioning it VegasRick. October 03, 2022: The anti-vaccine movement is a growing threat to public health here and across the globe. Over 3.7 million people in Britain (6.4 per cent) are yet to have a single dose of the Covid vaccine, with rates of refusal highest among young adults, the black population, the unemployed and the deprived. In the United States 21 per cent are not vaccinated at all. The risk of death is 14 times higher in the unvaccinated and without full coverage the danger to the wider population is increased. Thousands of deaths have been linked to vaccine refusal. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that 37,961 unvaccinated people in the UK died with Covid-19 mentioned on their death certificates between January 2021 and March 2022. In the vast majority of cases where Covid is mentioned, it is the underlying cause of death. [link to www.thetimes.co.uk (secure)] Meanwhile: October 06, 2022: Israeli report: "the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period" [link to palexander.substack.com (secure)] LOL... YOU are psychotic. AND... DELUSIONAL... NO SUCH THING as Virii... :) https://twitter.com/_/status/1567857765644632066 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82351013 United States 10/07/2022 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Vaccine Nazis Are a Global Menace Who Must Be Defeated" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80925773 I always knew for years now that the way they would depop would be by using the publics blind faith in vaxxines... They spent a lot of money convincing the public they are safe until this point. Now they are gonna have to get militant about it because the 'safe' facade is slipping. "All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force." -George Orwell I have to say that I think people get the usages of FORCE & VIOLENCE incorrect. In the same way people get MURDER & KILL incorrect. Hope this helps. __ To understand this or even consider the question we must understand the Natural Law distinction between Force and Violence. They are NOTHING ALIKE. They are diametrically opposed opposites. Force is in Nature the capacity to do work or to cause physical change. Every single thing that one acts upon to create any kind of change within one's rights is conducting force or employing force. Force is synonymous with energy, strength, or power being applied to something. When it is WITHIN our Natural Rights, it is FORCE, not coercion or violence. Force is something which exists IN HARMONY with morality and Natural Law because it does not violate the Rights of others. It is Action which one ALWAYS possesses the Right to take INCLUDING defensive force against active Violence which might be being initiated against oneself or one's properties or one's rights. This includes the right to take defensive action against a state of DURESS meaning the "threat" of violence when one isn't in compliance with another's coercive demands. We ALWAYS have the right to physically defend ourselves in this instance. Violence on the other hand is the IMMORAL use of physical power to coerce, compel, or restrain WITHOUT RIGHTS. There is no Natural Right to do this behavior. Violence no one EVER has the RIGHT to conduct. Violence is the initiation of coercive action which is in opposition to morality and Natural Law for the very reason that it violates the Rights of Others. This is where the word violence comes from, from the root: violation or violate. Violence is action which one NEVER possesses the Right to take, it is always a wrong-doing to conduct wrong-doing on another. This is the difference between FORCE and VIOLENCE. We must make this distinction philosophically so that we personally understand it so that we can explain it to others. ___________ There is no such thing as the "right to murder". As a proscription against unjust killing, the 5th commandment of the 10 commandments in the Old Testament scripture does not actually translate as "Do Not Kill". The 5th commandment in Hebrew is "Lo Tirtzach," which means "Do not murder." There is a crucial difference between the two translations. To murder is to act outside of one's Natural Law rights with violence against the life of another. When someone transgresses against our Natural Law Rights through violence, we always possess the right to defend ourselves with whatever amount of FORCE is required to stop the aggression -- up to, and including, deadly force. The Bible and the 10 commandments in historical traditional religious context never says there is no time when you should not kill IF you're doing it in a JUSTIFIED TRUE RIGHT way when your LIFE/RIGHTS/PROPERTY are being violated by those who will NOT LISTEN TO REASON and STOP PERFORMING THOSE IMMORAL BEHAVIORS. It says DO NOT MURDER, which means you should never initiate violence upon another's life through coercive action and potentially deadly force action when you have no such right to do that. This is a clear and critical important distinction between those two modalities of behavior. And too few people understand them or are even comfortable with discussing the difference between killing and murder. If it's truly immoral to ever kill well then did the revolutionaries have the right to kill the British soldiers who were oppressing them? Did the Haitian slaves have the right to kill their slave-masters? 100% OF COURSE THEY HAD THE NATURAL RIGHT TO PERFORM THOSE BEHAVIORS. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82351013 United States 10/07/2022 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GENOCIDE. Quoting: NaturalOrder What the "progressive liberals" have in store for conservatives [link to godlike.com (secure)] :Big_Brother: . Fuck big brother. If you're afraid to speak out against tyranny/evil, you should be ashamed of yourself, and your a part of the evil. Worse, if you're complicit through collecting money from these fucks, you're going to pay the price for your complicity. |
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(OP) User ID: 84198689 10/07/2022 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Vaccine Nazis Are a Global Menace Who Must Be Defeated" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80925773 I always knew for years now that the way they would depop would be by using the publics blind faith in vaxxines... They spent a lot of money convincing the public they are safe until this point. Now they are gonna have to get militant about it because the 'safe' facade is slipping. "All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force." -George Orwell I have to say that I think people get the usages of FORCE & VIOLENCE incorrect. In the same way people get MURDER & KILL incorrect. Hope this helps. __ To understand this or even consider the question we must understand the Natural Law distinction between Force and Violence. They are NOTHING ALIKE. They are diametrically opposed opposites. Force is in Nature the capacity to do work or to cause physical change. Every single thing that one acts upon to create any kind of change within one's rights is conducting force or employing force. Force is synonymous with energy, strength, or power being applied to something. When it is WITHIN our Natural Rights, it is FORCE, not coercion or violence. Force is something which exists IN HARMONY with morality and Natural Law because it does not violate the Rights of others. It is Action which one ALWAYS possesses the Right to take INCLUDING defensive force against active Violence which might be being initiated against oneself or one's properties or one's rights. This includes the right to take defensive action against a state of DURESS meaning the "threat" of violence when one isn't in compliance with another's coercive demands. We ALWAYS have the right to physically defend ourselves in this instance. Violence on the other hand is the IMMORAL use of physical power to coerce, compel, or restrain WITHOUT RIGHTS. There is no Natural Right to do this behavior. Violence no one EVER has the RIGHT to conduct. Violence is the initiation of coercive action which is in opposition to morality and Natural Law for the very reason that it violates the Rights of Others. This is where the word violence comes from, from the root: violation or violate. Violence is action which one NEVER possesses the Right to take, it is always a wrong-doing to conduct wrong-doing on another. This is the difference between FORCE and VIOLENCE. We must make this distinction philosophically so that we personally understand it so that we can explain it to others. ___________ There is no such thing as the "right to murder". As a proscription against unjust killing, the 5th commandment of the 10 commandments in the Old Testament scripture does not actually translate as "Do Not Kill". The 5th commandment in Hebrew is "Lo Tirtzach," which means "Do not murder." There is a crucial difference between the two translations. To murder is to act outside of one's Natural Law rights with violence against the life of another. When someone transgresses against our Natural Law Rights through violence, we always possess the right to defend ourselves with whatever amount of FORCE is required to stop the aggression -- up to, and including, deadly force. The Bible and the 10 commandments in historical traditional religious context never says there is no time when you should not kill IF you're doing it in a JUSTIFIED TRUE RIGHT way when your LIFE/RIGHTS/PROPERTY are being violated by those who will NOT LISTEN TO REASON and STOP PERFORMING THOSE IMMORAL BEHAVIORS. It says DO NOT MURDER, which means you should never initiate violence upon another's life through coercive action and potentially deadly force action when you have no such right to do that. This is a clear and critical important distinction between those two modalities of behavior. And too few people understand them or are even comfortable with discussing the difference between killing and murder. If it's truly immoral to ever kill well then did the revolutionaries have the right to kill the British soldiers who were oppressing them? Did the Haitian slaves have the right to kill their slave-masters? 100% OF COURSE THEY HAD THE NATURAL RIGHT TO PERFORM THOSE BEHAVIORS. This is equally genius, brilliant, wise, and insightful. Rarely do all four combine, but when they do transcendence occurs. Did you write this, NaturalOrder? There was a time once when 'knowledge' was seen as a rung in the ladder which leads to the floor where they keep the wisdom. Although evidently, there are some people nowadays who try to chop up the ladder - so they can feed the little fire they warm their hands over... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82351013 United States 10/07/2022 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Vaccine Nazis Are a Global Menace Who Must Be Defeated" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80925773 I always knew for years now that the way they would depop would be by using the publics blind faith in vaxxines... They spent a lot of money convincing the public they are safe until this point. Now they are gonna have to get militant about it because the 'safe' facade is slipping. "All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force." -George Orwell I have to say that I think people get the usages of FORCE & VIOLENCE incorrect. In the same way people get MURDER & KILL incorrect. Hope this helps. __ To understand this or even consider the question we must understand the Natural Law distinction between Force and Violence. They are NOTHING ALIKE. They are diametrically opposed opposites. Force is in Nature the capacity to do work or to cause physical change. Every single thing that one acts upon to create any kind of change within one's rights is conducting force or employing force. Force is synonymous with energy, strength, or power being applied to something. When it is WITHIN our Natural Rights, it is FORCE, not coercion or violence. Force is something which exists IN HARMONY with morality and Natural Law because it does not violate the Rights of others. It is Action which one ALWAYS possesses the Right to take INCLUDING defensive force against active Violence which might be being initiated against oneself or one's properties or one's rights. This includes the right to take defensive action against a state of DURESS meaning the "threat" of violence when one isn't in compliance with another's coercive demands. We ALWAYS have the right to physically defend ourselves in this instance. Violence on the other hand is the IMMORAL use of physical power to coerce, compel, or restrain WITHOUT RIGHTS. There is no Natural Right to do this behavior. Violence no one EVER has the RIGHT to conduct. Violence is the initiation of coercive action which is in opposition to morality and Natural Law for the very reason that it violates the Rights of Others. This is where the word violence comes from, from the root: violation or violate. Violence is action which one NEVER possesses the Right to take, it is always a wrong-doing to conduct wrong-doing on another. This is the difference between FORCE and VIOLENCE. We must make this distinction philosophically so that we personally understand it so that we can explain it to others. ___________ There is no such thing as the "right to murder". As a proscription against unjust killing, the 5th commandment of the 10 commandments in the Old Testament scripture does not actually translate as "Do Not Kill". The 5th commandment in Hebrew is "Lo Tirtzach," which means "Do not murder." There is a crucial difference between the two translations. To murder is to act outside of one's Natural Law rights with violence against the life of another. When someone transgresses against our Natural Law Rights through violence, we always possess the right to defend ourselves with whatever amount of FORCE is required to stop the aggression -- up to, and including, deadly force. The Bible and the 10 commandments in historical traditional religious context never says there is no time when you should not kill IF you're doing it in a JUSTIFIED TRUE RIGHT way when your LIFE/RIGHTS/PROPERTY are being violated by those who will NOT LISTEN TO REASON and STOP PERFORMING THOSE IMMORAL BEHAVIORS. It says DO NOT MURDER, which means you should never initiate violence upon another's life through coercive action and potentially deadly force action when you have no such right to do that. This is a clear and critical important distinction between those two modalities of behavior. And too few people understand them or are even comfortable with discussing the difference between killing and murder. If it's truly immoral to ever kill well then did the revolutionaries have the right to kill the British soldiers who were oppressing them? Did the Haitian slaves have the right to kill their slave-masters? 100% OF COURSE THEY HAD THE NATURAL RIGHT TO PERFORM THOSE BEHAVIORS. This is equally genius, brilliant, wise, and insightful. Rarely do all four combine, but when they do transcendence occurs. Did you write this, NaturalOrder? I appreciate that, and no, I did not write this. I took the time to transcribe a lengthy talk of Mark Passio's into a word document to share with others. Indeed, he hits all of those points. A far more enlightened man than I. I figure, if nothing else, emulating his work is far better than doing nothing. DURESS DISSIDENCE & DEADLY FORCE by MARK PASSIO [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82351013 United States 10/07/2022 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do add some of my own words in some of the portions of the text. I can't help it, it's exactly what I feel we should all be passionate about and focused upon. History shows what happens if a society fails to stand up and fight/preserve their freedoms. |
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(OP) User ID: 84198689 10/07/2022 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do add some of my own words in some of the portions of the text. I can't help it, it's exactly what I feel we should all be passionate about and focused upon. History shows what happens if a society fails to stand up and fight/preserve their freedoms. Quoting: NaturalOrder Your research and dedication is very impressive. As Churchill said, "The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see." Nothing is new under the sun, and those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Thank you for bring this wisdom to my attention, NaturalOrder, I am far better off for it. (Nothing wrong with embellishment by the way, adding our own unique insights to established wisdom helps wisdom age better as the times change.) There was a time once when 'knowledge' was seen as a rung in the ladder which leads to the floor where they keep the wisdom. Although evidently, there are some people nowadays who try to chop up the ladder - so they can feed the little fire they warm their hands over... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11257839 United States 10/07/2022 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Edit: Added dates to article snippets, thanks Quoting: griever for mentioning it VegasRick. October 03, 2022: The anti-vaccine movement is a growing threat to public health here and across the globe. Over 3.7 million people in Britain (6.4 per cent) are yet to have a single dose of the Covid vaccine, with rates of refusal highest among young adults, the black population, the unemployed and the deprived. In the United States 21 per cent are not vaccinated at all. The risk of death is 14 times higher in the unvaccinated and without full coverage the danger to the wider population is increased. Thousands of deaths have been linked to vaccine refusal. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that 37,961 unvaccinated people in the UK died with Covid-19 mentioned on their death certificates between January 2021 and March 2022. In the vast majority of cases where Covid is mentioned, it is the underlying cause of death. [link to www.thetimes.co.uk (secure)] Meanwhile: How it's going. October 06, 2022: Israeli report: "the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period" [link to palexander.substack.com (secure)] How many deaths have been linked the vaccine? How many. Don't lie. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82351013 United States 10/07/2022 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do add some of my own words in some of the portions of the text. I can't help it, it's exactly what I feel we should all be passionate about and focused upon. History shows what happens if a society fails to stand up and fight/preserve their freedoms. Quoting: NaturalOrder Your research and dedication is very impressive. As Churchill said, "The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see." Nothing is new under the sun, and those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Thank you for bring this wisdom to my attention, NaturalOrder, I am far better off for it. (Nothing wrong with embellishment by the way, adding our own unique insights to established wisdom helps wisdom age better as the times change.) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76036554 Netherlands 10/07/2022 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Edit: Added dates to article snippets, thanks Quoting: griever for mentioning it VegasRick. October 03, 2022: The anti-vaccine movement is a growing threat to public health here and across the globe. So sayeth the Karen-Gestapo Liberals of Europe and North America, etc. BTW, Adolf Hitler was a homosexual (yah, GLBT!) into animal rights (his version of BLM/GLBT/anti-C02) and socialism. Yah, Hitler! His "lefty" credentials are even better because his government declared that compassion should be the leading trait of Germany and the German people. Yah, Liberals! . |
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(OP) User ID: 84198689 10/07/2022 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Edit: Added dates to article snippets, thanks Quoting: griever for mentioning it VegasRick. October 03, 2022: The anti-vaccine movement is a growing threat to public health here and across the globe. Over 3.7 million people in Britain (6.4 per cent) are yet to have a single dose of the Covid vaccine, with rates of refusal highest among young adults, the black population, the unemployed and the deprived. In the United States 21 per cent are not vaccinated at all. The risk of death is 14 times higher in the unvaccinated and without full coverage the danger to the wider population is increased. Thousands of deaths have been linked to vaccine refusal. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that 37,961 unvaccinated people in the UK died with Covid-19 mentioned on their death certificates between January 2021 and March 2022. In the vast majority of cases where Covid is mentioned, it is the underlying cause of death. [link to www.thetimes.co.uk (secure)] Meanwhile: How it's going. October 06, 2022: Israeli report: "the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period" [link to palexander.substack.com (secure)] How many deaths have been linked the vaccine? How many. Don't lie. By February 2021, Pfizer found 1223 deaths directly linked. I could go on, and on, and on. Are you sure you want to play this game? https://imgur.com/a/B2vC2iF There was a time once when 'knowledge' was seen as a rung in the ladder which leads to the floor where they keep the wisdom. Although evidently, there are some people nowadays who try to chop up the ladder - so they can feed the little fire they warm their hands over... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76036554 Netherlands 10/07/2022 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing is new under the sun, and those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Quoting: griever Going back even further, the Bible describes the "left" negatively. Although modern labels and definitions of left and right may be somewhat different in 2022 versus 2022 BC, the human nature behind "lefty" biases and "progressive" feelings hasn't changed much or at all through the generations. Yah, Liberals! You make the best sociopaths in today's world and made the best sociopaths in yesterday's world. Psychopaths too. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79551961 United Kingdom 10/07/2022 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This man is a science tard. Thinks he is right but he couldn’t be more wrong. It’s a cult. He needs to watch the latest The Highwire but he won’t. If he did he would see a peer of his who also called for extreme measures against the unjabbed realise the hard way that he had been completely wrong. Here’s the story… |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82351013 United States 10/07/2022 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow these control freak idiots are still going with this Bullspit. They are obviously severely mentally ill! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79433216 Few remotely understand primary psychopathy, because they haven't investigated it themselves. Indeed, unspeakably mentally ill. So ill they'd bomb the world to destroy the bulk of it to cover their asses. If profitable, they would have already hit the red button. This is the disgustingly inconvenient reality we all live with. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11376882 United States 10/07/2022 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "October 06, 2022: Israeli report: "the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period"" Exactly as designed. But, the asleep, apathetic American sheep will continue to allow their culling, in their flaccid, silent consent. Instead of standing up and utterly decimating these evil POSs in self defense. Stupid is as stupid does, I guess. |
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