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Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS

 
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Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
This is just incredible coming from a Russian State TV propaganda outlet.

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This is just incredible coming from a Russian State TV propaganda outlet.


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This is hard to believe but good news for You Crane but we were afraid of the USSR for over 50 years? They can t fight their way out of a paper bag it seems.
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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
Two months. So it’s not two weeks any more.

It’s almost like they are preparing Russians for defeat or surrender. How can Putin remain if they keep losing for two months?
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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
This is just incredible coming from a Russian State TV propaganda outlet.


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This is hard to believe but good news for You Crane but we were afraid of the USSR for over 50 years? They can t fight their way out of a paper bag it seems.
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A paper tiger with nukes.

If they even work.
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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
By the way, thanks for whoever pinned this for a free and open discussion of the situation there.

Unlike the pinned Russian propaganda thread that’s censored and blocks ACs.

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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
Like I said in my other thread, if the Russian army cannot stabilize the front on the two fronts in Ukraine Kherson and Lyman the Russian army could collapse.

Kherson looks to be enveloped in the next 72 hours on three sides. Which inevitably it will fall at that point the Ukrainian forces will have direct access to attack Crimea
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They seem to be losing it!

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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
Like I said in my other thread, if the Russian army cannot stabilize the front on the two fronts in Ukraine Kherson and Lyman the Russian army could collapse.

Kherson looks to be enveloped in the next 72 hours on three sides. Which inevitably it will fall at that point the Ukrainian forces will have direct access to attack Crimea
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And this

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Just being real here.

The US went through this in Iraq.
Hence 'the surge'.

Gaining (and holding) the ground is much harder than just holding where you are or even giving ground up.

Right now it is a matter of internal politics.
If Russia can slow retreats enough and rebuild some support this is by no means over.
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This is just incredible coming from a Russian State TV propaganda outlet.


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This is hard to believe but good news for You Crane but we were afraid of the USSR for over 50 years? They can t fight their way out of a paper bag it seems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84321048


A paper tiger with nukes.

If they even work.
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Its a return to the "Cold War." Except this time Soviet Russia and Communist China won't be controlled from behind the curtain by Wall Street and London bankers.

Putin and China want a multi polar world of individual countries not the one world government run by Western Bankers.

In other words nationalism, not globalism.

That is good for American nationalists regardless if an American would choose not to live under either the Russian and Chi Com system.

In other words, better to have a second Cold War with individual nations, than a one world government which wants 9 out of 10 humans dead for the environment.

Who the fuck are you, Skippy? You and Klaus Schwab can fuck off.

If Klaus Schwab wins, we all lose.

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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
I think Russian State TV may have read this.

Putin Faces Military ‘Debacle’

Ukrainian forces have driven back Russian troops in three partially occupied Ukrainian territories—humiliating setbacks for Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has claimed the regions as his own and is already facing sharp domestic criticism for his battlefield failures.

The rapid retreat from strategic cities underscores the growing disorder in Russia’s military campaign, even as the Kremlin moves to illegally annex four Ukrainian territories and mobilize hundreds of thousands of new forces. In recent weeks, Kyiv has recaptured large swaths of territory, while some 200,000 Russian men have fled to bordering nations to escape Putin’s conscription order.

“Russia isn’t winning. Putin’s great nationalist celebration of conquests is turning out to be a debacle,” said Daniel Fried, a fellow at the Atlantic Council and former U.S. ambassador to Poland.

Just days after seizing the city of Lyman, a strategic hub in Donetsk, and pushing forward into Luhansk, Ukrainian forces have now also forced Russia to retreat along the strategic west bank of the Dnipro River in Kherson. The rapid retreat is due in part to overstretched Russian units, according to the Institute for the Study of War. Citing Russian military bloggers, ISW noted that “elements of the 126th Coastal Defense Brigade of the Black Sea Fleet have operated in the area without rotation since March” and that “the frontline is stretched so thin that some villages in this sector have 15 men defending them.”

These advances add to over 2,000 square miles of land in Kharkiv that Kyiv recaptured over the last month, as FP’s Jack Detsch reported.

Fried said Ukraine’s recent tactical victories are consistent with its military performance throughout Putin’s invasion. “At each turn in the war, the Russians have been worse than people expected, and the Ukrainians have done better,” he said.

Russia’s losses in Lyman in particular have provoked stinging criticism from two of Putin’s close allies, who publicly attacked top military officials over their battlefield failures.

“Send all these pieces of garbage barefoot with machine guns straight to the front,” wrote Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Wagner Group and Putin’s close associate. Ramzan Kadyrov, the leader of Chechnya, said a leading general should be “sent to the front to wash his shame off with blood.”

The dysfunction on the ground also appears to be ingrained at the top, especially with the Kremlin’s recent admission that it can’t identify the precise borders of its annexed territories amid its struggles to repel advancing Ukrainian forces.

[link to foreignpolicy.com (secure)]
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This is just incredible coming from a Russian State TV propaganda outlet.


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Russia has run out of soldiers!


They have started to call up people in their 60s and 70s to go fight the war!


Russia needs to lick it's wounds and go home!
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Putin is finished
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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
Like I said in my other thread, if the Russian army cannot stabilize the front on the two fronts in Ukraine Kherson and Lyman the Russian army could collapse.

Kherson looks to be enveloped in the next 72 hours on three sides. Which inevitably it will fall at that point the Ukrainian forces will have direct access to attack Crimea
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80253974


And this


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Twitter has to have a full time Klaus Schwab bot propaganda army to justify the 80 billion plus American tax payer dollars sent to the Ukraine money pit.

80 billion for Ukraine could rebuild the entire Federal Highway system in the United States, or rebuild every school in the United States 3x over.
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Putin is finished
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The West lost the all important petro dollar and at least half of its former military and financial hegemony over the world since the Ukraine war began.

That is a massive loss of power, influence, and money.

If Putin brought his army home today, the West will be fucked for the next 100 years.

We now live in a multipolar world

Who the fuck are you listening to?

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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
Like I said in my other thread, if the Russian army cannot stabilize the front on the two fronts in Ukraine Kherson and Lyman the Russian army could collapse.

Kherson looks to be enveloped in the next 72 hours on three sides. Which inevitably it will fall at that point the Ukrainian forces will have direct access to attack Crimea
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80253974


And this


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80282765


Twitter has to have a full time Klaus Schwab bot propaganda army to justify the 80 billion plus American tax payer dollars sent to the Ukraine money pit.

80 billion for Ukraine could rebuild the entire Federal Highway system in the United States, or rebuild every school in the United States 3x over.
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Sorry for your butthurt, Trigger.

But that’s what’s happening to your glorious Russian army.
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Ahh yes the armchair General Twitter Military Report.
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I think Russian State TV may have read this.

Putin Faces Military ‘Debacle’

Ukrainian forces have driven back Russian troops in three partially occupied Ukrainian territories—humiliating setbacks for Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has claimed the regions as his own and is already facing sharp domestic criticism for his battlefield failures.

The rapid retreat from strategic cities underscores the growing disorder in Russia’s military campaign, even as the Kremlin moves to illegally annex four Ukrainian territories and mobilize hundreds of thousands of new forces. In recent weeks, Kyiv has recaptured large swaths of territory, while some 200,000 Russian men have fled to bordering nations to escape Putin’s conscription order.

“Russia isn’t winning. Putin’s great nationalist celebration of conquests is turning out to be a debacle,” said Daniel Fried, a fellow at the Atlantic Council and former U.S. ambassador to Poland.

Just days after seizing the city of Lyman, a strategic hub in Donetsk, and pushing forward into Luhansk, Ukrainian forces have now also forced Russia to retreat along the strategic west bank of the Dnipro River in Kherson. The rapid retreat is due in part to overstretched Russian units, according to the Institute for the Study of War. Citing Russian military bloggers, ISW noted that “elements of the 126th Coastal Defense Brigade of the Black Sea Fleet have operated in the area without rotation since March” and that “the frontline is stretched so thin that some villages in this sector have 15 men defending them.”

These advances add to over 2,000 square miles of land in Kharkiv that Kyiv recaptured over the last month, as FP’s Jack Detsch reported.

Fried said Ukraine’s recent tactical victories are consistent with its military performance throughout Putin’s invasion. “At each turn in the war, the Russians have been worse than people expected, and the Ukrainians have done better,” he said.

Russia’s losses in Lyman in particular have provoked stinging criticism from two of Putin’s close allies, who publicly attacked top military officials over their battlefield failures.

“Send all these pieces of garbage barefoot with machine guns straight to the front,” wrote Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Wagner Group and Putin’s close associate. Ramzan Kadyrov, the leader of Chechnya, said a leading general should be “sent to the front to wash his shame off with blood.”

The dysfunction on the ground also appears to be ingrained at the top, especially with the Kremlin’s recent admission that it can’t identify the precise borders of its annexed territories amid its struggles to repel advancing Ukrainian forces.

[link to foreignpolicy.com (secure)]
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In the end, Russian people will be fed and warm this winter.

Can you say the same about NATO countries?

So are you going to send donations to Europeans to help pay their winter heating bills?

Just wondering, especially since the WEF-sponsored European governments are busily destroying European farming and generally fucking up Europe with woke Klaus Schwab WEF policies worse than Putin could do if he ran European governments to destroy Europe.
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Russia knows....this is how you do propaganda.
I'm not from Canada, not that there's anything wrong with that.....
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Doom break

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Russia knows....this is how you do propaganda.
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They run propaganda 24/7 on State TV.

The question is, what’s the message here?

Two months of losing before anyone should expect to see any winning? What’s up with that?
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Ahh yes the armchair General Twitter Military Report.
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An alternative to Twitter viewpoint on Ukranine.

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This is just incredible coming from a Russian State TV propaganda outlet.


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..and you dumb asses believe this? Lolol victory through the art of deception.
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Russia knows....this is how you do propaganda.
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“Appear weak when you are strong,
and strong when you are weak.”

-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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This is just incredible coming from a Russian State TV propaganda outlet.


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We’ll see
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Diversionary Tactic. Never underestimate your adversary. There's no way Russia will lose, not down to the last nuke.
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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
Just being real here.

The US went through this in Iraq.
Hence 'the surge'.

Gaining (and holding) the ground is much harder than just holding where you are or even giving ground up.

Right now it is a matter of internal politics.
If Russia can slow retreats enough and rebuild some support this is by no means over.
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This isn’t Iraq moron. These people will be happier in Ukraine as it was before. It’s a modern democratic state with a high standard of living. Iraq?
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Re: Military reporter on Russian State TV says Russia has lost 17 villages in Kherson and cannot expect a major advance for...TWO MONTHS
Wut? Even Putin is changing his tune.



That’s sort of telling as well.





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