Hungry Man Vs Vegan Protestors

Unvaxxed. Don't go to Vegas anytime soon.

He loses when he goes to jail, repeating "I have no masters!" Because he does.

You are operating in error, at best. You've resorted to attacking me personally rather than offering intelligent retorts to the information provided. You're a psychological inferior. Enjoy your slavery. I am free psychologically, and spiritually. Indeed, we are all enslaved in this domain. However some have made the right decisions pertaining to SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE EVIL and dedicating their time to helping others along the way. Self-defense against any claim of owner-ship over your property is always a RIGHT, using whatever degree of force necessary. I will be enjoying freedom, a lot more than you when my time of transition comes.

Contrary to popular dis-information and widely-held but erroneous BELIEF, as human beings, WE DO NOT POSSESS THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHATEVER WE WANT TO BELIEVE. We possess the right to believe whatever we want to believe, even if those beliefs are wildly out of touch with reality, ONLY IF THOSE BELIEFS DO NOT CONDONE VIOLENCE AGINST, OR SUPPORT THE SLAVERY OF, OTHER BEINGS.

This is not at all suggesting a sort of a "thought-police" phenomenon. Thoughts are rights to each individual however certain BELIEFS become WRONG AND IMMORAL if and when they perpetuate/condone SLAVERY.

Does someone have the right to believe that purple elephants fly around at night? Absolutely. Why? Because these sorts of thoughts are NOT VIOLENT TO OTHER PEOPLE.

On the other hand, does someone have the right to believe that there is legitimacy in claims of ownership over other people? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Why? Because this belief directly perpetuates and causes harm to other people.

People can believe whatever the heck they want until the belief enters the territory of condoning slavery as these beliefs are NOT RIGHTS. No one has these rights. We can consider the notion of slavery by thinking about it (as we all should) however if we don't come to the morally correct stance of that it is immoral/evil/wrong and that it SHOULD BE ENDED we are doing ourselves and the rest of humanity a great dis-service by failing to come to such morally correct stance.

Would people in the Southern Colonies have had the right to continue believing that the practice of having black slaves in the South was right? That WASN'T one of their rights even if they didn't own slaves themselves! When slaves escaped from plantations, people tried to capture them and bring them back to captivity, because they believed slavery was a legitimate condition. They never had the right in practice nor in belief as NO SUCH RIGHT EXISTS. Slavery has ALWAYS BEEN and ALWAYS WILL BE WRONG, EVIL and IMMORAL.

To believe government is legitimate is to believe slavery is legitimate, which is NOT A MORALLY RIGHT BELIEF. If stealing 100% of the product of someone's labor is slavery, at what percentage is it NOT slavery? It works better in the modern world when they don't know they're slaves through mind-control, brain-washing, and mental conditioning.


It is okay to consider the notion of government through our thoughts but when we come to the incorrect conclusion that it is legitimate it then becomes a violent belief and therefore is NOT A RIGHT for anyone to hold as it directly supports and perpetuates ongoing violence/harm initiated upon other beings.

Humans that believe that government is legitimate are NOT WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS to continue to believe that government is legitimate for ANYONE. Sadly, in the current world, people do not understand the distinction between government and slavery. GOVERNMENT IS SLAVERY.

NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE PROPERTY.

NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE THAT SLAVERY IS LEGIMTIMATE FOR ANYONE.

NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE THAT SLAVERY IS LEGIMATE FOR ANYONE, INCLUDING THEMSELVES.

No one has the right to believe that they are personally rightly slaves as this belief perpetuates the conditions of slavery which gives rise to the ongoing harm of others. No one has the right to believe that they are a slave. There is NO such RIGHT in Nature, never has been nor will there ever be. We must abandon this erroneous notion that somehow government is legitimate and that a ruling class and slave class are legitimate through the idea of authority.

Without the bravery of the American Revolutionary Samuel Adams, we would not be appreciating the freedom we are appreciating today. Without him, the revolution may have never happened. The American Revolution was a divinely inspired holy act as it directly caused the preservation and continuation of human freedom. The people that don't understand are poor sadly souls that have fallen victim to revisionist history or simply remain in spiritual darkness through a failure to properly educate themselves. This blood sacrifice in the name of freedom made it POSSIBLE for me to even write this today. We would be kissing the ass of a king or queen in a worse way than we already are today through suffering under government. We owe these men a debt. We must understand the significance of their minds and their actions by reading their works.

"It is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or of any number of men ... to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights. -Samuel Adams

If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up an essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation.

The right of freedom being the gift of God Almighty, is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave."

What Samuel Adams is saying here is that NO ONE has the right to give up their rights as this is the basis of the ongoing conditions of slavery for everyone else. No one has the right to not understand what a right is under Natural Law. This is a DUTY to understand as it transcends rights. We must understand it because the ignorance of understanding it places other beings in jeopardy of slavery or in continued slavery.

Every human being gets a DMT release upon death. That DMT experience has a lot to do with how you've lived your life. People that believe in slavery therefore evil are going to get more of the same. Remember this.

Some slaves during this time period rebelled physically. There were many slave revolts, most of which were violent suppressed by the media at that time. Such revolts were subsequently down-played or entirely covered up in modern historical accounts. Every slave ever held under these deplorable and immoral conditions possessed every right under Natural Law to rebel against, fight, and even KILL their en-slavers. This will ALWAYS be the case in ALL TIMES and in ALL PLACES IN THIS UNIVERSE. Why? Because slavery is IMMORAL, WRONG, AND EVIL.

We should appreciate much more those dissidents who PHYSICALLY REBELLED against their SLAVE-MASTERS. Why? Because through this approach the conditions of slavery might end PERMANENTLY which is ALWAYS THE RIGHT of human-beings which have fallen subject to SLAVERY. The media vehemently wrongly portrays the following historical accounts. "God Forbid" people become inspired to do the same thing today. How DARE indentured slaves go on to KILL their immoral SLAVE-MASTERS thereby freeing themselves from the conditions of slavery in which they suffered?!?! Please note my sarcasm. Obviously, we should all KNOW that the slave, or slaves, 1000% of the time carry the MORAL RIGHT to END THEIR CONDITIONS OF SLAVERY through WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY, up and to using DEADLY FORCE.

This being said, many of them indeed died in the process. I am not claiming nor promising anybody that a physical fight against evil oppressors is going to end well or possibly even end with the person who is IN THE RIGHT still being alive. I'm just explaining that the RIGHT EXISTS and their behavior was MORALLY RIGHT. MORALLY RIGHT. We must get this burned into our brains. It was a MORALLY CORRECT AND RIGHT BEHAVIOR. They had EVERY RIGHT TO DO THIS as so too do ANY/ALL enslaved people ALWAYS have this NATURAL RIGHT.

Some of the famous known slave revolts were:

Gabriel Prosser's Rebellion (Richmond, VA - August 30, 1800)

Haitian Revolution (August 1791 - January 1804)

German Coast Uprising (Louisiana - January 8-10, 1811)

Nat Turner's Rebellion (Southampton County, VA - August 21-23, 1831)

John Brown's Raid on Harpers Ferry (Harpers Ferry, VA - October 16-18, 1859)

When The Haitian people rebelled they did so to the last women and child of their slave-masters. These people were acting in the morally correct fashion given their conditions of slavery/oppression. They succeeded in winning their deserved freedom. They took up arms, did what they had to do, and they should be absolutely COMMENDED by ALL OF US. That's what protecting your freedom is when no other re-course is available. They were branded as "violent" and "non-humans" for their actions which couldn't be further from the truth. No person with a brain can say to themselves they did the wrong thing nor could any person with a brain say to themselves that today we have no right to end the ongoing duress we are suffering under in this Country today.

We ourselves are unfortunately very likely coming to a very similar point in our history which will make the Haitian Revolution look like a little tea-party. Why? Because of the technologies that exist in America. Once again, we should ALL try to OVERT this. Without more educators stepping up and doing the Great Work, we will be going down the same path of mass blood-shed.

We should have millions of others doing this same work of propagating this information. This letter should act as an inspiration for everyone who reads it to step up and do the right thing for ourselves, and for future generations. This letter should be shared far-and-wide and put into the hands of every single American adult in the country. We need more teachers of TRUE OBJECTIVE MORALITY, HISTORY, and the MODERN-DAY CONDITIONS OF SLAVERY. We must SHED THE FEAR of speaking out. We must reach as many minds as possible as soon as we possibly can. All that matters is that we put this information out there so we might overt scenarios like this. War is something that most aren't psychologically prepared nor physically prepared for. It's not like Hollywood. It's hard-core and is the worst possible thing that could happen to a populace. However, that doesn't mean that some wars are not fought from a position of moral correctness.

All are slaves. Bounds. Viva Vinctos!

You filled out the selective service card.

Every single individual who remains silent and apathetic in the face of increasing tyranny/evil are cowards.

People in their religious mind control falsely call themselves good people however, in the end, all members of the society will be to blame for their ultimate loss of freedom.

It's been happening in this country for decades.

You've failed, you're parents failed, and their parents failed.

Generational societal LOSERS. And this is the harsh truth that no one wants to hear nor say to others.

To understand this or even consider the question we must understand the Natural Law distinction between Force and Violence. They are NOTHING ALIKE. They are diametrically opposed opposites. Force is in Nature the capacity to do work or to cause physical change. Every single thing that one acts upon to create any kind of change within one's rights is conducting force or employing force. Force is synonymous with energy, strength, or power being applied to something. When it is WITHIN our Natural Rights, it is FORCE, not coercion or violence. Force is something which exists IN HARMONY with morality and Natural Law because it does not violate the Rights of others. It is Action which one ALWAYS possesses the Right to take INCLUDING defensive force against active Violence which might be being initiated against oneself or one's properties or one's rights. This includes the right to take defensive action against a state of DURESS meaning the "threat" of violence when one isn't in compliance with another's coercive demands. We ALWAYS have the right to physically defend ourselves in this instance.

Violence on the other hand is the IMMORAL use of physical power to coerce, compel, or restrain WITHOUT RIGHTS. There is no Natural Right to do this behavior. Violence no one EVER has the RIGHT to conduct. Violence is the initiation of coercive action which is in opposition to morality and Natural Law for the very reason that it violates the Rights of Others. This is where the word violence comes from, from the root: violation or violate. Violence is action which one NEVER possesses the Right to take, it is always a wrong-doing to conduct wrong-doing on another. This is the difference between FORCE and VIOLENCE. We must make this distinction philosophically so that we personally understand it so that we can explain it to others.

There is no such thing as the "right to murder". As a proscription against unjust killing, the 5th commandment of the 10 commandments in the Old Testament scripture does not actually translate as "Do Not Kill". The 5th commandment in Hebrew is "Lo Tirtzach," which means "Do not murder." There is a crucial difference between the two translations. To murder is to act outside of one's Natural Law rights with violence against the life of another. When someone transgresses against our Natural Law Rights through violence, we always possess the right to defend ourselves with whatever amount of FORCE is required to stop the aggression -- up to, and including, deadly force.

The Bible and the 10 commandments in historical traditional religious context never says there is no time when you should not kill IF you're doing it in a JUSTIFIED TRUE RIGHT way when your LIFE/RIGHTS/PROPERTY are being violated by those who will NOT LISTEN TO REASON and STOP PERFORMING THOSE IMMORAL BEHAVIORS. It says DO NOT MUDER, which means you should never initiate violence upon another's life through coercive action and potentially deadly force action when you have no such right to do that.

This is a clear and critical important distinction between those two modalities of behavior. And too few people understand them or are even comfortable with discussing the difference between killing and murder.

If it's truly immoral to ever kill well then did the revolutionaries have the right to kill the British soldiers who were oppressing them? Did the Haitian slaves have the right to kill their slave-masters?

100% OF COURSE THEY HAD THE NATURAL RIGHT TO PERFORM THOSE BEHAVIORS.

To explore the original question posed, let's consider the example of a kidnapping, a person being coercively taken against their will for nefarious reasons. When does the individual being kidnapped have the right to use defensive physical force, including deadly force against the kidnapper(s)?

The correct answer is: As soon as the act of duress beings -- as soon as their free will has been usurped and they are being coerced and restrained from exercising their freedom. The objective answer is IMMEDIATELY UPON BEING PUT UNDER THE CONDITION OF DURESS. They have the RIGHT to employ DEADLY FORCE.

Once again, that doesn't mean that they would be necessarily successful and that doesn't mean that they may not die in the attempt to repel the violence being conducted upon them BUT IN NATURE THEY POSSESS THE RIGHT TO KILL THE INDIVIDUAL, OR GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, PUTTING THEM IN THAT CONDITION OF DURESS.

There is NEVER a promise of safety however THE RIGHT ALWAYS EXISTS under said conditions, which for clarities sake is the point I am making.

The psychological fear of self-defense and rebellion against duress stems from a DEEPLY SEATED fear of true freedom in our population.

True Freedom is uncharted territory for human beings, because we've never truly been free. Even if you'd like to argue that we embraced true freedom after the colonists performed the revolutionary act in truth this was a very short period of time.

Freedom is unexplored country hence it is frightening to most people as most people fear the unknown. Moreover, people fear true freedom because true freedom implies and carries with it TOTAL PERSONAL REPSONSIBILITY which most human beings do not want and most human being will attempt to avoid at ALL COSTS.

Most people are also very fearful of the types of sacrifice that may be necessary to gain real freedom.

We need not look further back than the American Revolutionaries which, for instance, walked through ICE at Valley Forge with NO BOOTS OR SHOES, tying RIPPED PIECES of their uniforms which acted as rags around their feet whilst blood was trailing behind them as they walked to go fight. THESE WERE THE CONDITIONS THEY STARTED THE BATTLE IN. Imagine how they FINISHED THEM.

Less than 2500 people left in the revolutionary army in FREEZING ICE conditions in Southern Pennsylvania and Western New Jersey. Talk about really REALLY having to suck it up to get a job done on Christmas day crossing the Delaware to go and attack the British which was an unheard-of tactic. A pre-dawn attack in blizzard like conditions so that they had cover and were not seen coming. They fought five times their numbers and at least inflicted enough damage that they morally inspired others to come and join the cause which caused other militias to join them. Talk about sacrifice. We have NO IDEA the degree of sacrifice that these courageous men gave in the name of freedom which we all owe great thanks to this day.

IF YOU WON'T FIGHT FOR FREEDOM
YOU DON'T LOVE YOURSELF
AND WILL REMAIN ETERNALLY ENSLAVED
Real love is standing up in defense of freedom. Real love is telling people the hard-core truths that no one else wants to tell them because you really love them on a soul-level and know that they need to understand it. The above image symbolizes the condition of most human beings in the modern day. We don't know who we are nor do we widely know who the enemy is. To win any war you must know yourself AND you must know the enemy. Most people know neither. Most people are sitting as in the image to the right with the key to their freedom securely in their hand however it is vehemently rejected at all costs. Turning another cheek and loving your enemy is a misunderstood Christian notion. REALLY loving your enemy is loving those that reject truth even though they say they want to be free. They are not getting it mentally, emotionally, nor spiritually. Turning the cheek means they reject the truth that you give them and even go on to tell you there is something wrong with YOU. The audacity of these whom are so hopelessly enslaved to attack others whom are attempting to liberate them. To live this Christian teaching of "turning the other cheek" is to continue trying to help them over, and over, and over, again despite the continued rejection of Truth.

Mark Twain rightly said "It is easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled".

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those that falsely believe that they are free".

IF YOU WON'T FIGHT FOR FREEDOM
YOU DON'T TRULY LOVE YOUR CHILDREN

You are an outright liar if you think you love your children but will not fight for freedom on a deep fundamental level. You don't love yourself, how could you possibly love your children. Most humans are afraid more than anything else to admit that THEY'VE BEEN WRONG. I have endlessly admitted to myself in my life when I've discovered that I've been wrong or, in others words, have been operating in error (the definition of Sin). Imagine a person that says to themselves "I know the world is enslaved however I won't do anything about it because I don't care''. How can this person even REMOTELY love themselves, or their children? This is a destroyed SOUL that has a pitiful existence whether they realize it or not. Hopefully these people can eventually be reformed however this will take an act of God as no human holds the power to change such a deeply calcified diluted individual.

If this is confusing to anyone whom might be reading this all you have to do is look at the past centuries worth of totalitarian fascist regimes to understand what happens when a society fails to defend and fight for their freedom at all costs and in all ways possible. Some people, sadly, falsely believe that they might be ''spared'' when the time comes which acts as a direct by-pass to taking any action against duress/slavery/evil through word/pen or behavior/action. When and or if it's too late, these people will realize that they failed themselves, and their children.
If you do not take an active stand for truth and freedom, you cannot tell yourself, or me, that you love future generations because YOU DON'T.

Who are the ones who are unwilling to fight for freedom?

State-Worshippers, State Enforcer Thugs, Pacifists, Defeatists, Nihilists, Most Traditional Religionists & New-Age Religionists, Left-Brained-Egg-Headed Ultra-Skeptics, etc. - ALL have ONE thing in common - They would never lift a finger to defend True Freedom because they are ALL ultimately COWARDS without the slightest bit of True Courage.

A pacifist says there is never a time to physically defend oneself. This is a pure state of self-loathing. Self-defense is actually one of the true pillars of enlightenment. The sacred feminine is to do no harm or, in other words, the non-aggression principle. The sacred masculine principle of self-defense on the other-hand is the foundation of the willingness to defend your own life and the life of others if needed. A pacifist is unwilling to do this at all costs.

Defeatists say "we can't win" because the government is too powerful a force. What do you need an ar15 for? You can't defeat the modern military. YOU CAN'T DEFEAT THE MILITARY WITH THAT MINDSET. Don't speak for me. I'll take my chances with my firearm. And I may die trying but that means I DIED standing up to EVIL who is conducting duress who has NO RIGHT TO DO SO. I'd gladly do that and stand in the foot-steps of those who did that as they did what was RIGHT, not what was SAFE.

Nihilists are those who don't care about anything. The traditional religionists and new-age religionists who take a super-right brain approach as in ''It's all God's Will'' or it's "All love and light" --- Wakeup call people -- NO, there are PSYCHOPATHS and MONSTERS in this world who we need to defend (and inform) ourselves against.

The ultra-skeptics, whilst I myself consider myself a skeptic, are unwilling to entertain anything placed in front of them that is unknown. As in that's "conspiratorial". However, in truth it is undeniably true that evil is being conducted upon us on numerous ongoing fronts. This schizophrenic brain-damaged approach to life is as bad as the right brain damaged religionist / new - ager as this individual is equally delusional, damaged, incapable of perceiving Truth.

Cowardice is alone internal spiritual work to change. This must be done on an individual basis without the help of others. The human-being in a state of cowardice needs to develop enough self-love to say I WILL NOT BE STEPPED UPON. I WILL NOT BE ENSLAVED. YOU WILL NOT TAKE MY RIGHTS WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE.

You may be able to take my life, but you WON'T TAKE MY RIGHTS WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE. And if I HAVE TO INFLICT THAT CONSEUQNCE, I WILL DO IT.

Maybe you'll (the violator of my rights & freedoms) have to face consequence in the after-life domain should there be such a place but I'll make sure you'll face them in the physical world, too. If even that consequence is taking the life of an innocent person who harmed no one. This IS a consequence as their IS A KARMIC PRICE TO PAY for engaging in such a violation. I'm not going down without a physical fight if I have to. This is called courage and this is someone who respects and loves themselves and their children.

REAL FREEDOM'S JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE.

Most people love the comfort of their lives more than they love freedom itself. But possessions, jobs, homes, mean NOTHING and are not worth "having" when you are a slave because when you're a slave you don't really have anything. Nothing is of any REAL value if you are a slave.

The idea that what you "have" is worth anything in a state of slavery is a DELUSION which must be dispelled in order to overcome the cowardice of inaction, and to develop the courage of a true dissident.

There will NEVER be TRUE FREEDOM here on Earth unless and until that level of courage is developed within the human population.

We already "have" nothing left to lose.

You're too harsh on your parents, you extremist you. And on pacifist religious types.

Your trifecta of negative karma is a perfect conclusion to this conversation. You've wished jail upon me for expressing perspectives on an internet forum. You are, by definition, a bad/immoral person. Fuck you, and I pity your well deserved ill fate.

Sausages

Vegan sausages?

That's not what a trifecta is. You have two sock puppet accounts. Big deal.

Libertarianism is good while Anarchy is bad. Your being jailed due to your mental illness and extreme head-up-your-assery is a prediction. You have masters/rulers in life no matter what you say. You paying taxes is proof. And all will meet his/her maker. Tick tock.

Wishing rape upon anyone, as you've done, is evil and immoral. Now all these good folks know you have the heart of a rapist.

Never paid taxes aside from sales. One account. Didn't wish rape upon anyone.

You're a bot, a shill, or retard.

You are the moron that rightly received three negative karma's for your stupidity.

You're a liar.

How could you tell if it is a vegan sausage? Is it perpetually soft?

Wishing jail upon anyone is rape.

Anyway, i have contributed lengthy materials pertaining to our rights, the conditions we are in, and our always available solution.

You've contributed attacks on my character which equated to me defending myself. Yes, in angry, beyond words. For all of the reasons. As human should when evil is worsening.

You're a psychologically crippled fuck wit.

I have one account.

Its embarrassing that I even chose to engage with your stupid ass.

Usually I don't. Oh well. Thanks for the opportunity to share pertinent information, and to express my righteous indegntion toward retarded members of the human race whom continue to believe in slavery/violence/duress/statism/evil.

The Church of Seitan makes great vegan products.

To get this thread back on track, yah the dude walked through a blockade infringing on his rights too. Without any bloodshed as well, NICE!

Hahahahahahaha

typical leftists

they want you to force you to live your life the way they want you to

fuck them

live my life my way

the leftists can eat shit

Hahahahahahahaha

Never met a "vegan body builder" sorry, they don't exist.

They do. They have blogs, and active youtube channels. Some are known in the community.

old Indian proverb

vegan means your a poor hunter

Grab me like that and you will be eating your own teeth.

It doesn't.

Its from Denmark, and its Danish, some years back