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A Russian TV presenter nicknamed "Putin's mouthpiece" has said that Russia should not expect "good news" as Ukrainian counteroffensives make advances in eastern and southern Ukraine.

Vladimir Solovyov warned that "things won't be easy for" Russia during a Monday broadcast on the state-run Russia-1 network. Solovyov lamented that Russia could not "attack and take Kyiv tomorrow" before suggesting that Russian President Vladimir Putin's partial mobilization of 300,000 reservists would be unable to stop current Ukrainian advances due to delays in the training of troops.

"Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination and for them to have everything they need for entering battle," Solovyov said, according to The Daily Express. "This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us. Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience."

Ukraine has recently seen significant success on two fronts of the war. After retaking the eastern city of Lyman over the weekend while pushing into the Donetsk region—one of four regions Putin claimed to have annexed last week—the Ukrainian military on Monday reported making additional major advances in southern Ukraine.

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how do you say "Two more Weeks in Russian?"
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how do you say "Two more Weeks in Russian?"
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This just makes the potential use of nukes more likely.
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imagine if you were a Russian conscript sitting around in the field by the side of the road with the other conscripts, watching Russia state tv channel 1 trying to get some good news. then this sadsack Solovyov comes on and says there is not gonna be any good news any time soon... morale crushed! how do they expect them 300,000 conscripts to fight under such conditions?
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What do they need good news 'soon' for?

Better to properly train the new recruits, and then let them have their impact on the battlefield when they are ready, no?
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Wait, I thought the globalists who are pushing for Ukraine were telling us all about how the Russian soldiers weren't getting an hour of training but they were taking him straight from their civilian jobs and throwing them straight onto the battlefield.

Make up your mind which version of propaganda you're going to push. because this riplashing between giving them long periods of training and giving them no training is quite annoying.

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Wait, I thought the globalists who are pushing for Ukraine were telling us all about how the Russian soldiers weren't getting an hour of training but they were taking him straight from their civilian jobs and throwing them straight onto the battlefield.

Make up your mind which version of propaganda you're going to push. because this riplashing between giving them long periods of training and giving them no training is quite annoying.

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 Quoting: samanthasunflower


The official Russian propaganda on Russia-1 tv channel says they will need a lot of time for training. However the Ukrainian army isn't gonna sit around waiting for them to get trained. They are pushing forward. Ukrainian army might capture Kherson soon. That would mean another 30,000 Russian troops killed or captured. That will leave the Russian invasion pretty much lost. Russia needs troops reinforcements now. Which means the 300,000 conscripts could well be sent in with hardly any training. They would be cannon fodder and get slaughtered.
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Supposedly these men called up are former conscripts.

If so they've already got 1 year of service.

I'd think they could be whipped into a rudimentary fighting force with about a month of high quality training.

But that high quality training can't just be created on the spot. There should be infrastructure and planned training regimen.

They don't seem to be getting anything done. It's as if there's no plan.

And this is really where wars are won and lost. Planning and logistics are everything. Everything!

A good army command spends it's peace time planning. It plans this and that and anything imaginable. There's so much involved when you're talking about moving and training men, moving equipment, and doing all this in a hot theater.

All your combat capabilities can truly be second rate if you can consistently get what capability you have where you need it when you need it and can sustain it. At least this second rate fighting force can fight.

You can have the best equipment on Earth with the best trained soldiers ever, but if you can't put them where you need them when and can't sustain them then you've already lost.

And this seems to be Russia's problem. They can't execute because they don't know how because they haven't spent their peace time years planning the operation of war.
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how do you say "Two more Weeks in Russian?"
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Poor Solovyov, hasn't been able to get it up for a week now. violin

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Re: Russian state TV military expert says get ready for bad news, even the 300k conscripts can't help any time soon
Supposedly these men called up are former conscripts.

If so they've already got 1 year of service.

I'd think they could be whipped into a rudimentary fighting force with about a month of high quality training.

But that high quality training can't just be created on the spot. There should be infrastructure and planned training regimen.

They don't seem to be getting anything done. It's as if there's no plan.

And this is really where wars are won and lost. Planning and logistics are everything. Everything!

A good army command spends it's peace time planning. It plans this and that and anything imaginable. There's so much involved when you're talking about moving and training men, moving equipment, and doing all this in a hot theater.

All your combat capabilities can truly be second rate if you can consistently get what capability you have where you need it when you need it and can sustain it. At least this second rate fighting force can fight.

You can have the best equipment on Earth with the best trained soldiers ever, but if you can't put them where you need them when and can't sustain them then you've already lost.

And this seems to be Russia's problem. They can't execute because they don't know how because they haven't spent their peace time years planning the operation of war.
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Russia must conscript about a million men per year. So what is up with this partial mobilization? Seems like they can't handle a sudden conscription of 300,000 people. They don't have anywhere to put them so they just dump them in the fields with no shelter or food, tell them to make campfires if they don't want to freeze. Shouldn't they have multiple army barracks all over the country that the conscripts could go to? Shouldn't there be thousands of trucks to move them around and supply them with food?

What is going on in Russia? Complete fustercluck
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Coup to shit can Putin and Swan Lake with Russian State TV in 3...2...1...
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Don't believe any of this shit, it pure propaganda from the Russians, truth is that they have close to 1.5 million troops waiting, don't forget that every country has a standing army, Russia's standing army is 1.1 million plus the 350k conscripts.
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Don't believe any of this shit, it pure propaganda from the Russians, truth is that they have close to 1.5 million troops waiting, don't forget that every country has a standing army, Russia's standing army is 1.1 million plus the 350k conscripts.
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do you think that Russia will soon 'take the gloves off'???
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that guy is saying Russian troops are outnumbered five to one and have shortages in all the stuff they need like ammo, equipment and so on.
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A Russian TV presenter nicknamed "Putin's mouthpiece" has said that Russia should not expect "good news" as Ukrainian counteroffensives make advances in eastern and southern Ukraine.

Vladimir Solovyov warned that "things won't be easy for" Russia during a Monday broadcast on the state-run Russia-1 network. Solovyov lamented that Russia could not "attack and take Kyiv tomorrow" before suggesting that Russian President Vladimir Putin's partial mobilization of 300,000 reservists would be unable to stop current Ukrainian advances due to delays in the training of troops.

"Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination and for them to have everything they need for entering battle," Solovyov said, according to The Daily Express. "This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us. Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience."

Ukraine has recently seen significant success on two fronts of the war. After retaking the eastern city of Lyman over the weekend while pushing into the Donetsk region—one of four regions Putin claimed to have annexed last week—the Ukrainian military on Monday reported making additional major advances in southern Ukraine.

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"For just enough time to effect the withdrawal of the Liman garrison, the Russians kicked ass and took names – massed artillery and close air support raging overhead. Then they skedaddled down the road to Kremennaya, content to continue on the defensive for the time being.

Yes, the AFU, with 6000+ troops, succeeded in placing the ~500 remaining defenders of Liman in an operational encirclement. But the few Russian regulars who came to the rescue did so with impressive ferocity. All combined arms elements were brought to bear. The Russians, fighting from their preferred defensive posture, have inflicted radically disproportionate numbers of casualties.

Most concerningly for the Ukraine fans, they are ignoring a very important aspect of the final hours of the defense of Liman. Make no mistake, the Ukrainian army has shown valor and occasional bouts of tactical acumen. Likewise have the Russians. But, contrary to the propaganda-induced delusions of the Ukraine fans, this offensive has been exorbitantly costly for the AFU.

The Russians are preparing 'something big'. Whether it begins to manifest tomorrow, two weeks from now, or is even delayed until early 2023, something big is being prepared - war not with battalion tactical groups, but with army corps. Big arrows on the map. The Ukrainians have, mostly for reasons of political expediency, opted to roll the dice in a courageous but inevitably futile last-gasp counterattack before this Russian buildup is ready to launch.

It will come up snake eyes.

Ukraine cannot and will not win this war..."

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Re: Russian state TV military expert says get ready for bad news, even the 300k conscripts can't help any time soon
Supposedly these men called up are former conscripts.

If so they've already got 1 year of service.

I'd think they could be whipped into a rudimentary fighting force with about a month of high quality training.

But that high quality training can't just be created on the spot. There should be infrastructure and planned training regimen.

They don't seem to be getting anything done. It's as if there's no plan.

And this is really where wars are won and lost. Planning and logistics are everything. Everything!

A good army command spends it's peace time planning. It plans this and that and anything imaginable. There's so much involved when you're talking about moving and training men, moving equipment, and doing all this in a hot theater.

All your combat capabilities can truly be second rate if you can consistently get what capability you have where you need it when you need it and can sustain it. At least this second rate fighting force can fight.

You can have the best equipment on Earth with the best trained soldiers ever, but if you can't put them where you need them when and can't sustain them then you've already lost.

And this seems to be Russia's problem. They can't execute because they don't know how because they haven't spent their peace time years planning the operation of war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82131072


Russia must conscript about a million men per year. So what is up with this partial mobilization? Seems like they can't handle a sudden conscription of 300,000 people. They don't have anywhere to put them so they just dump them in the fields with no shelter or food, tell them to make campfires if they don't want to freeze. Shouldn't they have multiple army barracks all over the country that the conscripts could go to? Shouldn't there be thousands of trucks to move them around and supply them with food?

What is going on in Russia? Complete fustercluck
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I was reading how in Soviet times they maintained all the bases to mass train in case if an emergency mobilization. The infrastructure to do this is massive and requires all the officers and structure just sitting around waiting just in=n case. Well Russia let it all go to shit. The other day they couldn’t figure out what happened to over 1 million uniforms they were suppose to have.
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Im thinking Russia is playing this out,all about timing...

WINTER IS COMING,Russians i think like to fight in the cold,much more normal to them,then it is to Ukraine ...

Its an theory i have...

I really dont think they used the more Advanced Weapons they do have....

IF they had,i dont think we would still be fighting through Ukraine we would be fighting Directly with Russia if we thought they already used what they had...

Im sure they have some weapons not seen yet...

If they are really that weak,Any country would overtake them...

Then again if thats all they got,guess say bye bye to russia ...
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Im thinking Russia is playing this out,all about timing...

WINTER IS COMING,Russians i think like to fight in the cold,much more normal to them,then it is to Ukraine ...

Its an theory i have...

I really dont think they used the more Advanced Weapons they do have....

IF they had,i dont think we would still be fighting through Ukraine we would be fighting Directly with Russia if we thought they already used what they had...

Im sure they have some weapons not seen yet...

If they are really that weak,Any country would overtake them...

Then again if thats all they got,guess say bye bye to russia ...
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If they really are that strong, they wouldn’t be retreating after seven months into Putin’s three day war.

Have a look at this map. After seven months, all they are holding is the territory in red, and it’s shrinking.

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A Russian TV presenter nicknamed "Putin's mouthpiece" has said that Russia should not expect "good news" as Ukrainian counteroffensives make advances in eastern and southern Ukraine.

Vladimir Solovyov warned that "things won't be easy for" Russia during a Monday broadcast on the state-run Russia-1 network. Solovyov lamented that Russia could not "attack and take Kyiv tomorrow" before suggesting that Russian President Vladimir Putin's partial mobilization of 300,000 reservists would be unable to stop current Ukrainian advances due to delays in the training of troops.

"Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination and for them to have everything they need for entering battle," Solovyov said, according to The Daily Express. "This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us. Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience."

Ukraine has recently seen significant success on two fronts of the war. After retaking the eastern city of Lyman over the weekend while pushing into the Donetsk region—one of four regions Putin claimed to have annexed last week—the Ukrainian military on Monday reported making additional major advances in southern Ukraine.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84241987


"For just enough time to effect the withdrawal of the Liman garrison, the Russians kicked ass and took names – massed artillery and close air support raging overhead. Then they skedaddled down the road to Kremennaya, content to continue on the defensive for the time being.

Yes, the AFU, with 6000+ troops, succeeded in placing the ~500 remaining defenders of Liman in an operational encirclement. But the few Russian regulars who came to the rescue did so with impressive ferocity. All combined arms elements were brought to bear. The Russians, fighting from their preferred defensive posture, have inflicted radically disproportionate numbers of casualties.

Most concerningly for the Ukraine fans, they are ignoring a very important aspect of the final hours of the defense of Liman. Make no mistake, the Ukrainian army has shown valor and occasional bouts of tactical acumen. Likewise have the Russians. But, contrary to the propaganda-induced delusions of the Ukraine fans, this offensive has been exorbitantly costly for the AFU.

The Russians are preparing 'something big'. Whether it begins to manifest tomorrow, two weeks from now, or is even delayed until early 2023, something big is being prepared - war not with battalion tactical groups, but with army corps. Big arrows on the map. The Ukrainians have, mostly for reasons of political expediency, opted to roll the dice in a courageous but inevitably futile last-gasp counterattack before this Russian buildup is ready to launch.

It will come up snake eyes.

Ukraine cannot and will not win this war..."

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Keep touting your lies, Russian casualties are way higher thanUkrainian. It is Ukraine that is using combined arms effectively not Russia. Ukraine is using a huge intel advantage along with mobility to make Russia look silly. By the time the Russians try to react the Ukrainians are already at different coordinates.

Look at Wagner in Bakmut, their tactics suck and they already burnt through all the prisoner meat they recruited. Russia can only win by brute force, indiscriminate shelling and total destruction. They may win eventually but it will never be a true victory once the cost is factored in.
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Re: Russian state TV military expert says get ready for bad news, even the 300k conscripts can't help any time soon
The conscripts are not battle ready as of yet.

But they will be by spring.

In spring you will be a marked dynamic shift in this war.

Russia will hold her majors territorial gains this winter.

Spring is when the real war begins.

Look to spring equinox week 2023.
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To win this war requires the long game.

And nobody plays the long game better than Russia.

Nobody.
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The conscripts are not battle ready as of yet.

But they will be by spring.

In spring you will be a marked dynamic shift in this war.

Russia will hold her majors territorial gains this winter.

Spring is when the real war begins.

Look to spring equinox week 2023.
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what makes you think the Russian soldiers can hold out for six months with no reinforcements, no supplies, and no ammo? Ukraine ain't gonna take six months off and wait for Russia to train the conscripts...
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To those who think Russia is losing, you are complete idiots.


Napoleon thought Russia was losing too.

When and if Russia ever falls back and regroups it is only because she is preparing to kick your ass from here to eternity.
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The conscripts are not battle ready as of yet.

But they will be by spring.

In spring you will be a marked dynamic shift in this war.

Russia will hold her majors territorial gains this winter.

Spring is when the real war begins.

Look to spring equinox week 2023.
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what makes you think the Russian soldiers can hold out for six months with no reinforcements, no supplies, and no ammo? Ukraine ain't gonna take six months off and wait for Russia to train the conscripts...
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You are being fed false propaganda that is created for idiots like yourself.
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To win this war requires the long game.

And nobody plays the long game better than Russia.

Nobody.
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Afghanistan, for example.
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The conscripts are not battle ready as of yet.

But they will be by spring.

In spring you will be a marked dynamic shift in this war.

Russia will hold her majors territorial gains this winter.

Spring is when the real war begins.

Look to spring equinox week 2023.
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what makes you think the Russian soldiers can hold out for six months with no reinforcements, no supplies, and no ammo? Ukraine ain't gonna take six months off and wait for Russia to train the conscripts...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84241987


You are being fed false propaganda that is created for idiots like yourself.
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are you saying your post is false propaganda???? maybe you should stop posting it then?





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